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QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Sep 19, 2006 -> 09:35 PM) Freddy, once again, Starting to get in the corner with Kal however, hopefully he isn't pitching himself into a rotation spot next season...... You have no idea what I'm going through right now watching this team. 3 things have happened thus far in September that have me scared s***less. 1.) Freddy learned a new pitch (after sucking ass for 5 months) 2.) Freddy comes out and says he thinks he'll regain his velocity over the offseason. 3.) Freddy has allowed 4 baserunners over his past 16 IP (if he does this in May it's forgotten by now but since he's doing it in September it will mean something) I'm afraid these 3 factors will earn Freddy Garcia a spot in the rotation next year. Kenny needs to keep a stiff upper lip and kick Freddy out the damn door in November, his trade value is rising and could reach an all-time high (2006-present) this offseason.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 19, 2006 -> 03:50 PM) We need a lead off man from somewhere. Pods Blak™ should fill that role nicely in CF next year.

On Lugo: No thanks, he's going to pick up a contract this offseason that he is not deserving of, he'd be an ok leadoff man but he'd also play atrocious defense.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 19, 2006 -> 03:27 PM) Man, I think you are underrating Crede a ton here. You are talking about the best defensive 3B probably in the game, if not top 3 in the MLB. On top of that, you now have a 30-100 3B who plays GG defense. Crede is now a premier 3B. Just look at how good he is on offense now. #4 in Hr's behind Glaus, Aramis, and A-rod. In SLG% he is only behind such franchise players as C Jones, D Wright, M Cabrera, S Rolen. Look at the company he is keeping offensively!!! He is slugging better than A-rod for god sakes. Another stat that is impressive is that Crede has only struck out 56 times this year. The only thing he really needs to work on is his OBP and walks. Which can come with another stellar year. Now with all those 3B I mentioned that are elite offensively. Which ones would you say are better defensively than Crede? He is a player that we need to keep close and sign to an extension, not shop for a potential player, or a National League pitcher who would watch his ERA climb over 4 or 5. He is a keeper, and thats that. Lugo would work out because I do not think we have a lead off man otherwise. Although I still think, and this is gonna hurt a little, that Ross Gload could be a potential lead off candidate. If we get Lugo, then I wouldnt mind Sweeney and Fields in LF. On Crede: There is one major variable, his back. Every game he's seen clutching his back and it seems he goes down for 3 games every other week because of a flare up. This really appears to be a serious problem, maybe it can be fixed through surgery or therapy but this is going to be a huge decision for KW and company if they think his back is going to become a serious problem and could hamper him in the future they should most definitely look into moving him now and picking up big time talent for him in return. The guy is 28 years old and has major health worries I'm not sure that's the kind of guy you just want to throw a longterm contract extension at when it's not entirely necessary to do so at this time.

QUOTE(cgaudin @ Sep 19, 2006 -> 01:39 PM) There ain't much to add to this team. Two new starters, a SS, and a left fielder, or put Dye in the DH and get another outfielder. Don't get me wrong, I like Jim Thome, but he is a primary reason why this team became one-dimensional on offense. He is worth a lot now. Dump him and get something good in return. We may need to retool the bullpen arms, as well. I like the two kids Sweeney and Fields. We should give at least one of them a shot. If Crede re-signs cheap we should keep him. If he asks for Ft. Knox then we should trade him also. Crede can bring top talent. You mean why this team became good offensively as opposed to sucking ass like they did last year?

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Sep 19, 2006 -> 12:59 PM) No. And the only people making "radical" changes are the armchair GM's of soxtalk. So how many different threads are you going to make the same post in? You shooting for the whole first page of PHT?

QUOTE(tpezz27 @ Sep 19, 2006 -> 12:49 PM) Watching Anderson, Uribe and Pods play everyday give me a headache! Not having anyone better to replace them all makes it worse! Is there a reason why Cintron can't play SS and Gload can't play LF?

So who exactly is your speedy 1B with a bat?

No thanks, I think one long colective boo from 38,000 Sox fans from the 1st innning through the 9th on Sunday would get the point across. This team got a big enough head after winning the World Series, acting like they could just show up and the damn thing would just be handed to them. They had the whole offseason to celebrate their championship but sadly they decided to take an extra 6 months off for celebratory reasons.

QUOTE(The Ginger Kid @ Sep 19, 2006 -> 11:24 AM) I wish we would've traded BMac for Tejada when we had the chance. Miguel Tejada will never play for the Chicago White Sox it was never even a possibility in the past. Miguel Tejada is one thing KW and Ozzie actually agree upon and they want him nowhere near this or any other team they're running.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Sep 19, 2006 -> 11:51 AM) With Uribe in front of him much of the year how many times could the bases have been loaded? 8 times.

QUOTE(Big Hurtin @ Sep 19, 2006 -> 12:52 AM) Even with, how often does that happen? Not very. Actually it happened just last night.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Sep 19, 2006 -> 12:27 AM) I will say this thread is probably going to be like 10 pages on arguments we've all had before. Everyone knows how I feel about this topic and I'm just going to leave it at that. Maybe BA and Ozzie can be on celebrity boxing sometime in the offseason. I'd enjoy that. It's getting close to "Is Mark Buehrle an Ace?" like proportions. QUOTE(3 BeWareTheNewSox 5 @ Sep 19, 2006 -> 12:24 AM) I heard a theory that Ozzie and KW really hated each other, that KW was one his way out in the 03 offseason and Reinsdorf made him hire Ozzie (he wanted Cito). Since then they've had many issues, Ozzie's been behind some of the moves (KW didn't want to do Freddy deal) and had fights, including about KW going into the clubhouse. I took it all with a grain of salt since it was a Cubs fan, but he claims he is with some of the Sox investors/board members (through friends) and got the stories from them, Still don't buy it, but you never know what happens behind the scenes. I don't understand Ozzie's BA quote. I think he gets better AB's if he's in the lineup more, and doesn't have to platoon. He is a rookie after all, and gives you defense. Maybe he just has it in for guys who are single. That sounds just oh so damn sweet, it really does and plausable at that. Alright lets just say for a second that this is all true and Ozzie/KW really don't like eachother just imagine for a second what it would have been like if the Sox had retained Frank Thomas for the '06 season. Kenny hates Ozzie Ozzie hates Kenny Kenny hates Frank Frank hates Kenny Ozzie hates Frank Frank hates Ozzie Reinsdorf loves Frank Frank loves Reinsdorf KW is so so with Reinsdorf Reinsdorf is so so with Kenny It's like a badass baseball soap oprah.

It's like you've taken every sarcastic post I've ever made and combined them all into one genuinly sincere Rongey-esque thread.

I'm gonna need an Ozzie/KW spat and I'm gonna need it now.

I can honestly say that I just don't give a s*** anymore. This is the most important part of this article IMO:

QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Sep 18, 2006 -> 11:42 PM) Well, in his last 7 starts of 2002, Danny had a stretch of 49.2 innings with and ERA of 3.08. The point is that prospects can have good stretches, but that does not necessarily mean a great career is in the offing. That was also 221 1/3 IP into his big league career pitching in games that meant absolutely nothing, with no pressure at all, I mean was he really even a prospect at that point? Seems like a bad pitcher going out and pitching well in low pressure situations against some good and some very bad teams.

QUOTE(3 BeWareTheNewSox 5 @ Sep 18, 2006 -> 11:40 PM) All I remember from Wright is one game where he shutout Texas. It was a gem, like a CG 2 hitter. I never regarded him to be a stud though Quite the dominant performance. 05/16/2002: VS TEX: 9 IP, 5H, 0ER, 1BB, 5K Previous start: 05/10/2002: @ ANA: 2.6 IP, 8H, 8ER, 1BB, 1K 2 Starts later: 05/27/2002: VS NYY: 4.3 IP, 8H, 8ER, 3BB, 6K God I miss Dan Wright. QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Sep 18, 2006 -> 11:44 PM) Sounds like your prediction sounds about right to me. Unfortunately, that isn't much of an upgrade for our rotation. Hardly any at all. Actually it's about a $10M upgrade.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2006 @ Sep 18, 2006 -> 11:33 PM) He did? Do tell. I'm actually looking through his game logs from '01 and '02 right now and I'm having a hard time finding these 42 innings of dominance.

QUOTE(Damen @ Sep 18, 2006 -> 11:21 PM) Wow. You should have posted under a different name for this thread. I was close, designating Chris Widger for assignment on July 23rd was the biggest mistake the White Sox Organization ever made. 25-28 record since his DFA, coincidence? f*** NO.

Damn, someone caught me on an optimistic day, .275 for Uribe? 21 HR for Anderson? Hell I hated Anderson comming into this season.

Well McCarthy did face the Rangers, Tigers and Twins twice each last season. 5/27 @ TEX: 5 IP, 6 H, 6 ER 8/30 @ TEX: 7.6 IP, 2 H, 0 ER 6/29 @ DET: 6.3 IP, 6 H, 3 ER 9/27 @ DET: 6.3 IP, 8 H, 3 ER 9/17 @ MIN: 3 IP, 2 H, 1 ER 9/22 V MIN: 8 IP, 4 H, 1 ER I'm not really sure how that last theory really works.

QUOTE(SEALgep @ Sep 18, 2006 -> 10:32 PM) Did I say that somewhere? I never said you did.

QUOTE(lord chas @ Sep 18, 2006 -> 10:15 PM) i totally agree. still having rowand would mean not watching mack the butcher in center It would also mean a playoff spot, I noticed something today. 2005 = Rowand 2006 = Anderson 2005 = World Series 2006 = Disapointment Coincidence? I THINK NOT! You have to remember last year's team was built solely on chemistry, the #1 producer of said chemistry??? AARON ROWAND.

QUOTE(Chisoxrd5 @ Sep 18, 2006 -> 10:20 PM) I'm pumped up to go see Freddies 86 mph fastball in person for the 8th time this year...does that count? Tomorrow = Big Game Freddy = Big Game pitcher There for Tomorrow = Gauranteed Victory BOOf***INGYA!!!