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QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 17, 2007 -> 02:17 PM) Yeesh. Hey, if they can handle it, great. But most 16-year-olds I know have a hard time remembering where they put their school books. Seems like sending them off to a foreign country and under the lense of professional sports seems like it would take a pretty big toll on them. I am not saying they shouldn't do it necessarily - just that it seems very high risk to me. Well Miguel Cabrera handled it as well, he had a similar aggressive move up through the system. The reason I posed this, is when I have seen the true impact Latin players there we signed as 16 year old and were aggressively put through the system. I just wanted to see what people thought would be a timeline. For me this is uncharted territory. I like the fact that we picked up a toolsy 16 year old. This is a shift in our talent acquisition that has me pretty damn happy. This is the way we should start to go. I am pretty happy with this move so far.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 17, 2007 -> 01:50 PM) Yeah, but again, where do they play until they are 18? Looking at Guillen for example, he was signed at 16 but didn't play on a US-based team until 1982 (when he was 18). Felix Hernandez signed as a 16 year old. Was playing in Class A as a 17 year old.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 17, 2007 -> 12:36 PM) I keep thinking about the legal and moral implications. I mean, lest we all forget, he is a 16 year old KID. He isn't a legal adult. I think its difficult to justify shipping him off to Bristol or Great Falls at that age. I'd think the safer thing to do would be to have him play DSL ball as a 17-year-old this coming year, maybe play some winter ball after that in the Caribbean somewhere or the Dominican League, then as an 18-year-old move him up to Bristol of GF. ETA: How has this been done before? Wasn't Ozzie Guillen picked up as a 15-year old? Well remember, kid or not this has been done before. The MLS has had a few 15 and 16 year old kids playing in their professional league making money. Hell this is how its done in international soccer leagues, sign them before their 16th birthday and put them in their academy. They start to make appearances by their late teens.

Now the question is, where does he land next year. And what is a time table on how he would be promoted through the minors. I understand that its all based on his ability to take his natural raw talent and take advantage of it. Where does a 16 year old play next year, Low A is it Rookie ball, Dominican Summer League?

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QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Oct 17, 2007 -> 10:14 AM) Schuerholz has been saying it for a long time -- never this strongly, of course, but he's long had a rough relationship with sleazy agents and irresponsible owners. I especially get a big kick out of hearing him, a conservative Republican, call something "Voodoo Economics." Just another example of Schuerholz being a thoughtful, well-balanced man. Well I guess the Whitesox are filled with thoughtful, well-balanced men then because they have been preaching this approach to Boras and the highway robbery of agents for a while now.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Oct 16, 2007 -> 12:36 PM) Yeah, but it's definitely sub-par. None of these guys except DLS has a real shot at being an impact ML pitcher except for Gio who has an outside shot but I would never bet on it since he's so tiny. Oswalt, Pedro, Tim Hudson, Maddux all below 6 feet. There have been short pitchers that have been good in the majors you realize. The only thing that can worry you with a shorter pitcher is injury and that is more of genetic makeup and repeatable mechanics than height. Gio has good stuff and a nice curveball. To dismiss him based on his height alone is a myopic argument. "Some clubs dismiss guys on height, but it's silly. With the shortage of pitching out there, why limit yourself?" American League Scout

Cardio should be something people add in to their weekly workout schedule, but that wasn't the question. The question was to get built. Packing on weight, especially muscle is hard enough. But lots of Cardio will make it harder, as the caloretic impact of vigorous cardio has a much higher impact that working out. If my goal was to pack on weight, I would limit my cardio. I have to use large amounts of high impact cardio in my workout schedule during the week. My goal is different, I am a diabetic who is trying to do two things. One is to burn off glucose in my blood stream and also is to help my muscles in conjunction with medicine I am on, use the glucose more efficiently and realize that there is a need for insulin that my body produces. I am type II, and from the tests I produce some Insulin however my body doesnt know what to do with it, so glucose has a hard time entering in my cells for energy. Kind of a lazy system. LOL My workouts are high impact running, 8 to 9.5 mph over a 40 to 60 minute period, lots of calories burned. When I first started this, the amount of weight I lost in a short period of time was dramatic. So what I needed to do is to calculate the amount of calories I was going to burn during this, and supplement that back into my system as I don't want to lose more weight. When you do a cardio based activity that gets your heart racing like that, your body will first try and tap the bloodstream for fuel, and then after a period of time 15 to 20 minutes your body will then go to long term stores for food supply. It will then start the process of mining fat, and turn it into food source. So for a person trying to put on weight or bulk, you want to add more calories than your body burns in a day, and then use weightlifting to turn that into muscle and not fat. Thats the purpose of the supplements like muscle milk, and the weight gain shakes. Its to jack up your calorie intake, which a hard cardio workout would burn off. I use the supplements like the shakes to keep my weight normalized. It keeps me at the same weight and allows me to workout and help my medicine work. The only thing from a health standpoint you should worry about with high protein diets, and these types of protein shakes is more of long term issues with your body processing it. Processing Protein is one of the hardest things your body does. Burning sugars and carbs is one of the easiest. So if any of this is long term, I would suggest that when you get your yearly checkup make sure your doctor screens your kidneys and your liver for any issues. Better to be safe than sorry. Outside of that, just remember. Once you get pumped up, make sure you maintain it. Muscle takes a lot of work to put on, it doesnt take a long time to turn that into something you dont want.

Sounds a lot like Petoria.

QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Oct 12, 2007 -> 01:59 PM) If you people think Rowand is looking for alot of money your really going to be shocked when Hunter signs for 18-20 Mil per year. Who is shocked. Everyone here realizes that Hunter wants that. That still has nothing to do with Rowand not being worth 14 million, hell he isnt worth 10 million.

This is the only way Kenny should entertain the legends contract demands. Just say no to Mr. Faceplant and move on.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Oct 12, 2007 -> 11:15 AM) Yeah really. Our team would certainly beef up against lefties, too, with both Burrell and Fields in the lineup. My only worry would be the White Sox' lack of a good hitting coach. Charlie Manuel knows hitting and it looks like Rowand and Burrell are two guys he's really gotten through to. We don't have somebody like that. Where's our Charlie Manuel? Wait a second, people like Gonzales, Whalen, Konerko, and some people on this site have said we have the best hitting coach in baseball. Its just really really really cold here all of the time. No one on earth could hit here, just flip their cards.

My son is going as this, when my cub fan loving neighbors ask him what a scary skeleton he is. I am going to tell him, he isnt a skeleton, he is a baseball player from the last cubs world championship team.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Oct 10, 2007 -> 10:06 AM) I like your love of Bobby, but I am of the belief that trading him would be the best thing. Yeah, its nice that we have a guy who pitches 65 innings a year, SIXTY FIVE INNINGS WTF, but put that in perspective. If we can get some valuable pieces who play 9 innings a game and have some upside that's a no-brainer. You have to have a lead before you can get a save, and selling high on a RELIEVER, no matter how good is something I can totally agree upon with an organization that has so many flaws. How many save Ops does a guy get on a 90 loss dog. He had 40 saves for a 90 loss dog. Whom are you replacing Bobby with, and pray tell how much will this guy cost. He does an amazing job of keeping the ball in the ballpark, which in our park is a necessity. So please no borowski types, no Jones types. We would need to replace the sub 3 ERA, the plus 40 saves, the sub 1 WHIP and the amazing .28 Hr/9 plus the VORP of 23.7.

QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Oct 10, 2007 -> 12:24 AM) Actually, I think Jenks might be the Sox most valuable trading chip. He's cheap and has 3 years before FA. And had an excellent season. He probably couldn't fetch 3 top prospects, but 2 top prospects wouldn't be out of the question. You have had a hard on for trading Bobby all year long. Did he kick your dog or something. This is the first time in a long time we have a good closer and the first thing you want to do is spin him for prospects. He is young, and he is cheap. And dont give me the well we could get a Borowski type guy, because those types won't play well at the Cell. Ask the rest of our pen how getting the ball up works in our park in the summer. To me you build your pen backwards from Bobby. You have a Loogy in Boone, Waserman looks like he will stick. This is your starting point. Fill the rest from there.

QUOTE(Brian @ Oct 9, 2007 -> 06:00 PM) I got attacked by a bunch of Cub fans today at the gym, verbally. A week ago, they were asking me when the Sox played and all that crap. I just shrugged it off cuz I couldn't talk. Than today, I turn it back on them and they go off with the usual attendance stuff and how we only had 72 wins and stuff like that. It was funny. They were overrating the talents of DeRosa, Fontenot, and Theriot. Everytime I brought up our trophy, they were like, "That was 2 years ago. Talk about the present." I said that I was sure if the Cubs ever won, then 2 years later Cub fans would forget about the title. They didn't really respond to that. Good times. Tell them that you can remember the feeling you had when Konerko hit his grand slam, when Blumm hit that ball in extra's, and the final out. You realize it was 2 years ago, but it seems like yesterday. Then ask them, so how was it for you and the rest of cubdom. Oh I forget, the only way you can get that perspective is if you purchase a ouiji board, or a shovel. Dummies ate a baseball Dummies are now eating reptile. Meanwhile they should try this novell idea of playing better baseball. But no, its curses, goats and bartmans. I wonder what they are grinding up and eating next year.

Solid move. We need help with development, and at least they went outside the org for this one.

QUOTE(BigEdWalsh @ Oct 8, 2007 -> 02:18 PM) Isn't his September always good? Problem is April, May, June, July and August. PROFUNDO hitting in the summer. LOL

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Oct 9, 2007 -> 11:06 AM) I wonder where Rivera will go, he is still very effective. My guess is that Boston signs him, and puts Papleboner in the rotation.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Oct 9, 2007 -> 10:38 AM) Al Qaeda's Internet communications system has suddenly gone dark to American intelligence after the leak of Osama bin Laden's September 11 speech inadvertently disclosed the fact that we had penetrated the enemy's system. The intelligence blunder started with what appeared at the time as an American intelligence victory, namely that the federal government had intercepted, a full four days before it was to be aired, a video of Osama bin Laden's first appearance in three years in a video address marking the sixth anniversary of the attacks of September 11, 2001. On the morning of September 7, the Web site of ABC News posted excerpts from the speech. But the disclosure from ABC and later other news organizations tipped off Qaeda's internal security division that the organization's Internet communications system, known among American intelligence analysts as Obelisk, was compromised. This network of Web sites serves not only as the distribution system for the videos produced by Al Qaeda's production company, As-Sahab, but also as the equivalent of a corporate intranet, dealing with such mundane matters as expense reporting and clerical memos to mid- and lower-level Qaeda operatives throughout the world. While intranets are usually based on servers in a discrete physical location, Obelisk is a series of sites all over the Web, often with fake names, in some cases sites that are not even known by their proprietors to have been hacked by Al Qaeda. One intelligence officer who requested anonymity said in an interview last week that the intelligence community watched in real time the shutdown of the Obelisk system. America's Obelisk watchers even saw the order to shut down the system delivered from Qaeda's internal security to a team of technical workers in Malaysia. That was the last internal message America's intelligence community saw. "We saw the whole thing shut down because of this leak," the official said. "We lost an important keyhole into the enemy." By Friday evening, one of the key sets of sites in the Obelisk network, the Ekhlaas forum, was back on line. The Ekhlaas forum is a password-protected message board used by Qaeda for recruitment, propaganda dissemination, and as one of the entrance ways into Obelisk for those operatives whose user names are granted permission. Many of the other Obelisk sites are now offline and presumably moved to new secret locations on the World Wide Web. The founder of a Web site known as clandestineradio.com, Nick Grace, tracked the shutdown of Qaeda's Obelisk system in real time. "It was both unprecedented and chilling from the perspective of a Web techie. The discipline and coordination to take the entire system down involving multiple Web servers, hundreds of user names and passwords, is an astounding feat, especially that it was done within minutes," Mr. Grace said yesterday. The head of the SITE Intelligence Group, an organization that monitors Jihadi Web sites and provides information to subscribers, Rita Katz, said she personally provided the video on September 7 to the deputy director of the National Counterterrorism Center, Michael Leiter. Ms. Katz yesterday said, "We shared a copy of the transcript and the video with the U.S. government, to Michael Leiter, with the request specifically that it was important to keep the subject secret. Then the video was leaked out. An investigation into who downloaded the video from our server indicated that several computers with IP addresses were registered to government agencies." Yesterday a spokesman for the National Counterterrorism Center, Carl Kropf, denied the accusation that it was responsible for the leak. "That's just absolutely wrong. The allegation and the accusation that we did that is unfounded," he said. The spokesman for the director of national intelligence, Ross Feinstein, yesterday also denied the leak allegation. "The intelligence community and the ODNI senior leadership did not leak this video to the media," he said. Ms. Katz said, "The government leak damaged our investigation into Al Qaeda's network. Techniques and sources that took years to develop became ineffective. As a result of the leak Al Qaeda changed their methods." Ms. Katz said she also lost potential revenue. A former counterterrorism official, Roger Cressey, said, "If any of this was leaked for any reasons, especially political, that is just unconscionable." Mr. Cressey added that the work that was lost by burrowing into Qaeda's Internet system was far more valuable than any benefit that was gained by short-circuiting Osama bin Laden's video to the public. While Al Qaeda still uses human couriers to move its most important messages between senior leaders and what is known as a Hawala network of lenders throughout the world to move interest-free money, more and more of the organization's communication happens in cyber space. "While the traditional courier based networks can offer security and anonymity, the same can be had on the Internet. It is clear in recent years if you look at their information operations and explosion of Al Qaeda related Web sites and Web activities, the Internet has taken a primary role in their communications both externally and internally," Mr. Grace said. "It was both unprecedented and chilling from the perspective of a Web techie. The discipline and coordination to take the entire system down involving multiple Web servers, hundreds of user names and passwords, is an astounding feat, especially that it was done within minutes," Mr. Grace said yesterday. Not really, a simple botnet model allows for the command and control of millions of PCs that can be controlled from a single point in real time. I bet each of these sites used a similiar model. The real issue here is someone poked a stick at the prize. The first thing they teach you in incident response is to setup passive monitors. Do not make an active scan of any of the sites, especially do not download the tools or anything on a drop site. I have seen numerous security investigators doing incident response find the Command and Control drop site for malware tools, or the drop site for the trojan's uploads. And what do they do, they go and connect to it to see what is on it. What happens, the bad guy sees something connecting to it outside of its botnet, and it shuts down and moves to another IP. Investigation over. Sloppy investigating is the issue here. And whomever did this should be fired at a minimum.

QUOTE(WHITESOXRANDY @ Oct 9, 2007 -> 10:35 AM) I'm definiely no scout but I always felt that Young had the potential o be great and I would have been surprised if Anderson turned out o be anything special. That was just my gut feeling. I would have been much happier at the time if the Sox kept Young instead. But, let's face it, the first stupid move KW made was trading Rowand and Gio for Thome. I love Thome but he could have signed Frank Thomas for less money and not given up ANY players. Thomas produced about the same as Thome the last 2 years. Did KW trade Frank for personal reasons ? I hope KW learns from his mistakes. The Sox can't afford to let their stars leave for no return. What would have happend the last 2 seasons if KW re-signed Frank and kept Rowand, Young and Gio. Instead of paying Javy, signed a FA pitcher before 2006. And, then traded Garcia for bullpen help before 2007. I know that's all hindsight but I definitely would have re-signed Frank and kept Rowand Gio. Heck, you're talking about a DH ! If Frank hadn't have been healthy like he urned out to be in 2006 it's still not hard to find a DH somewhere. They could have used Gload even. Gload for DH, Oh give me a break. I like Gload and his approach, but a team that uses him as a DH has a rotten offense. We needed some left handed power to balance out our attack. In 05 we had a rotten offensive team. We traded Rowand who hit like crap in the 2nd half of 05. At the time of the Thome trade, we had a 6'5 275 pound man who had 2 fractures in a 2 year period. And we are not talking about a young man. He also had an option that he wanted picked up. Now the he would of signed for cheap is nice and all, but really do you think that would of happened. My hats off to the Big Hurt for overcoming those injuries, but to base our 06 hitting on a big injury question mark is a joke. Kenny did the right thing with the trade, and for all those who forget. We wouldnt of won anywhere near 90 games in 06 if Thome didnt put the entire team on his back and come out on fire. With the way our pitching in 06 perfomed out of the gate we could of been dead and buried early.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 8, 2007 -> 09:43 PM) Let's hope not. Given some of the posts, that could cause some problems, regardless of what is or is not true. to the admins: Just a thought, based on the conversation here it might be wise to clean some of this up before Mr. Google Bot or a good caching engine comes by and makes this permanent searchable content.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 8, 2007 -> 09:37 PM) Pre-emptive shot across the bow here... I think its good we are delving into the reliability of information being provided, but let's be careful not to insult any of the specific posters here. Just as important, unless you are 100% sure of fact, let's avoid any accusations of conduct of players and coaches as well. Just a warning. So how long before this thread is quoted with posters handles in an SI issue like before.

QUOTE(Gregory Pratt @ Oct 8, 2007 -> 07:46 PM) I met a British tourist who was going to be in NY/Boston around playoff time but he didn't tell me when, exactly. I told him if he was there while they played home games, he should go, especially to Yankee Stadium. I will go to Yankee Stadium next year and buy a scalped playoff ticket if they make the playoffs next year. When you go to Yankee Stadium make sure you ask for section 39. They have some interesting traditions in that part of the park. There is one they do with the YMCA song. Make sure you wear your sox/Atlanta hat.

About losing for 100 years.