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Ha cross our fingers and hope ! I'm not opposed to organic growth but Jerry does little to nothing to bring in or develop prospects. Crossing fingers and hoping is all we have. And this is spring when I pretend that things will go well up til the trade deadline and then they trade off 8 guys and basically start all over again in 2025 . That's a successful 2024 and it leads to basically they same thing in 2025 where you put enough decent prospects into a system that sucks at developing prospects and hope they learned enough in their previously organizations and have enough talent to overcome everything the White Sox don't do to make them better.

Zero confidence in the front office and coaches ? Most of them are just starting their tenure with the Sox. Yes Getz didn't exactly impress anyone in his previous job except JR. But seriously ,when you examine the organization making " right changes" in the last 5 to 10 years why stop there ? Who's in charge of the White Sox ? Who makes the decisions and controls the purse strings that enable front offices and coaches to do better jobs by building an infrastructure that enhances player development ? That would be the owner.

You already said you don't think JR is going to do what's necessary to push for the playoffs. Then you said " build it organically". I'm not sure what that means in your mind but when has that ever happened under JR ?

You listen to Reinsdorf say the Sox can't compete in the current location but he's been the owner that bought the team in that location and built a new stadium in that location. The Dominican Republic has been producing good players since before Reinsdorf became the owner yet have the Sox ever developed a very good DR player ? They had a chance with Tatis, Jr and Hahn got fleeced before the kid could even play stateside. Tampa Bay has shown Jerry that investing in infrastructure and developing youth can keep a team competitive without a large player payroll in a lousy location. Does JR ever try to do what TB does ? Nope ,not ever, not even a little. He seems diametrically opposed to it in reality. JR or his heirs would not run the team any differently in a new stadium. Grifol , Getz who cares ? Just new flunkies using the same M.O. that JR lays down. They all will slowly sink into Jerry's quicksand operation of the franchise. Even if a new stadium gets built on the 78, JR will have to make concessions and it's highly doubtful some grand dream of developing the surrounding area into a White Sox Wonderland capable of a brand new era of White Sox baseball will ever bear fruit.

I don't understand this quote from you at all. If Fletcher and Horn are both on the 2026 Sox wouldn't that mean they both had somewhat successful 24 and 25 seasons ? Wouldn't it also mean that the Sox could have good players they successfully traded for for another 4 years after 2025 ? How would that translate into any type of failure ?

Solid win. It was the kind of win the Sox will need to replicate as much as possible, low scoring, some steals, timely hitting, pitching and defense.

I know you want to run the front office like an algorithm. Do something the wrong way enough times and it's likely to bite you in the ass trading younger minor league guys for older minor league guys. At least they don't have enough talent to get 36 yr old vets the Sox have to pay $10M for a year. I don't know if what Getz is doing now will work. He's just hoping you get enough young vets and 26 yr old minor leaguers that someone is going to blossom even for a short period to trade them or in the case of the 26y yr old minor leaguers either trade them or see what they have for another year of 2.

I think mo Wizard of Oz gangsta references be dope. Ya feel me ?

I still don't see why some don't get it. Sox are stockpiling as much AAA+ nothing's hoping they they become somethings. Even if they are older and not likely to be on the next Sox contender,LH pitchers who can K hitters are usually in demand . The dearth of talent was so bad the only way to try to build up the system is find as many guys capable of turning a corner approaching prime years who can be traded for higher end talent in the low minors (AA or lower). All this trading is likely to continue but they started with very little to work with.

I have a feeling that no matter what I say you'll spin it. But just compare their numbers and make sure you note that I said "right now he is a better nothing." If you can't look at the stats and see that, I'm not going to spend any time debating it if you see it differently.

Montgomery had an RBI Single off a LHP in the 9th. Sox lose.

Gonna have to agree here. Chances are Thompson is a nothing . If you wait much longer he's an older nothing. Maybe Horn is a nothing too, but right now he's a better nothing. Just a nothing for nothing trade that means pretty much nothing except giving the Cubs something for Horn who needed a roster spot for Bellinger. It's good we have such dedicated minor league fans who were hoping the Thompson /Dahlquist duo would eventually yield a major leaguer.

Yes happens every spring when people follow along on Game day and don't actually watch what's happening.

Montgomery sac fly RBI after single ,walk ,WP against Gavin Stone. 5 -3 Sox

And Eloy GO gets a run home and leaves men on 2nd and 3rd with 1 out. Moose K Fletch GO Promising situation fizzles 1-0 Sox

Fletcher doesn't have the speed to play CF . His calling card as a good defensive OF are his reads and jumps. In CF you have to cover a lot more ground and having top speed often makes up for bad jumps. If heakes a bad read like he did yesterday he's going to look bad. Now I don't care about a bunch of spring training errors made mostly by the kids who aren't going to be on the 26. There's a lot of hate going around Soxtalk for good reason but hating on the new guys in ST seems crazy to me. Blame JR all day every day for the sorry state of affairs but can everyone cut the players some slack ? We all know they are mostly fringe MLB or career minor league guys. Please don't let you current disdain for the organization cloud your judgement on basically innocent players because they weren't born with the physical gifts necessary to be the best of the best. It just seems petty and mean spirited like calling Benetti a dork and essentially forgetting he has overcome major physically disabilities that most of us can't imagine.

His speech for 30 minutes was the best Chicago sports speech ever. Gretzky, Brett Hull, Dennis Rodman, Eddie Vedder were there. Old teammates everywhere. Talked about the champioships of the Bears, Bulls, called the Sox, " my Chicago White Sox". Made jokes about his deceased father's sometimes restaurant failures. He just seemed so at ease and in his element. Got the crowd to boo the Redwings. That was hilarious. Greatest Chicago born athlete . Mt Caramel Southside legend !

Phillips and Quero of course.

Wasn't on broadcast.

Got his curve ball up too much. Good break not enough downward bite.

Mark Payton lead off walk. Sosa 4 pitch walk. Carlos Perez PH 4 pitch walk Ramos PH pops out to RFer just behind the infield. Quero liner down LF line Sox win 8-7 !

Top 9 Addison Coffey #87 pitching. Diving catch on sinking liner to Colas in RF. Pop out to Shewmake behind 2nd base. Nice curve ball. Throwing strikes. Single. SB Single run scored . Tied. Gets past Lee, Coffey backing up throws it away trying to get runner at 2nd. He takes 3rd. Single gives Mariners the lead 7-6.Kids giveth and kids taketh away. K looking on curve.

6' 5" 240 if I'm remembering right from yesterday. Might weigh more .

Bottom 8 Colas pop out down LF line SS caught. Shewmake single. SB Elko FO to fence in LCF. Shewmake to 3rd. Lee RBi single to RF ! 6-5 Nice piece of hitting. Rodriguez FO RCF.

Chase Plymell pitching #96 Double GO advanced runner to 3rd. Sosa guns down runner at home on groundball ! Sosa high throw from foul ground E5 . Elko caught it but had to jump. Blooper LCF barely missed by Payton in CF . Unearned run. 5-3 . Shewmake botches GB to right side of 2nd base. Then throws behind runner instead of home. Runner on 2nd base just kept going to tie score. 5-5. Pop out ends inning . All runs unearned.