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Ho hum. You tried this exact post in the late night game thread and I ripped you a new asshole and a few people came to my defense. Seems like it's personal . You didn't like me calling you out on your amateurish use of defensive stats . You told me I had dozens or hundreds of posts just like this one yet you post the same one twice. The only thing you did here is bold difference parts of the posts. I used a quote for another poster who said the exact same thing I did and you are not attacking him. The only difference between me and him is he said Vaughn is far and away the worst hitter we have against RHP but he wanted to play him every day and I didn't . I'm not going to put as much effort into this one. Have a happy and safe 4h of July !

Ozzie Albies wasn't a power hitter in the minors then all of a sudden he's hitting 24 in the bigs. However he was only 21 when he hit 24 so it could've been perfect timing bringing him up when they did, if he got stronger and made some adjustment in his swing or approach.

I thought Caulfield was trying to answer a question I asked of German Sox fan. I didn't realize I made a mistake saying LHP when I meant left handed power. If he had bolded the LHP in my post I would've figured it out. Thanks for your help.

Left handed power sorry. And thank you @Lillian. I had no idea what he was asking me since I didn't realize I had typed LHP for LH power.

When I started the GT on the 2nd game of the 6/27 DH against Seattle the Sox had just lost the suspended game. Their lead over Cleveland in the Central had shrunk to 2 games . The Sox had lost 7 of their last 8. Mercedes and Collins drove in all 7 runs and Luis Gonzalez made a perfect throw home to gun down a runner at the plate. Aaron Burr started the game and went 2 innings without giving up a hit. Not exactly the names we are used to seeing in the headlines lately. We've witness a dramatic turn in the Sox fortunes from that point on led by some improbable names . Gavin Sheets made his Sox debut in grand fashion in the next game. He had 2 hits and 2 RBI but that was just a preview. Andrew Vaughn had 2 hits in what would be the start of 4 games in a row with 2 hits and counting. Burr pitched 1.1 hitless innings. The Giolito/Donaldson controversy started and the Sox won 7-6. 6/30 The Sox hit 6 HR's led by Grandal with 2 and Sheets collected his 1st MLB HR. Vaughn had 2 hits again with a HR and 3 RBI. Brian Goodwin and Abreu also hit HR's. Final score 13-3 White Sox 7/1 Vaughn had his 3rd straight game with 2 hits. Brian Goodwin hit his 2nd HR (3rd of the season) in 2 games and a double. Sheets 1/3 with a double and RBI. Collins 2/3 , HR and 2 RBI. It also was the return of Kopech who pitched a scoreless inning in relief and got the win. Burr also pitched a scoreless inning. Sox sweep the Twins 8-5. 7/2 The debut of rookie Jake Burger with the Sox at 3rd base in place of the injured Moncada. Surprise! Another good debut. Jake went 2/4 with a fluke double and played a flawless 3rd base. Vaughn again with 2 hits , a double and a HR. Gavin Sheets hit a 3 run HR in the 9th. Eaton returned from injury and went 2/4 .Final 8-2 Sox over Tigers for their 5th win in a row. The victory extended the Sox lead over Cleveland in the Central to 6 games. It was 2 when I started the 1st GT. It's been an exciting 5 wins to be sure and the most exciting time since the now departed Yerminator was eating his burger. It great to see Burger and Sheets step up and perhaps save the Front Office from selling them short. It Takes A Team ! Enjoy today's game ! Let's Go !!

Thank you both for your kind words of encouragement. It is very much appreciated.

Here's exactly what I said from that quote you used. " I still see so many here saying Vaughn has to play every day. No he doesn't, ...." Strike 1 As far as what I said in the 2nd line I showed you a passage from @Chicago White Sox who said the exact same thing by saying he is " far and away our worst hitter against righties." He just said it in a nicer way. I would assume since he said "far and away worst" that would include Hamilton too. Strike 2 SO you see once again ,as some have done,you have taken things out of context and just used the part of the quote that suited you. Strike 3.

Sorry buddy not going to apologize. All I said there was that he doesn't have to play every day against RHP which is the same thing I have said all along. His hitting against RHP was terrible there's no way around it. I've seen others say he's been terrible too against RHP who still wanted him to play everyday like @Chicago White Sox from his June 20th thread about ' The Offense -Near Term Actions : Play Vaughn Everyday in LF. This one is going to be a bit counter-intuitive, but we need see what we got in the kid and figure out if he can work through his challenges against RHP. He has been far & away our worst hitter against righties, posting a .487 OPS and 38 wRC+ on the season. Right-handed pitchers are pummeling him down & away with sliders and he has yet to make the necessary adjustments. There's only one difference between him and me. He wanted him to play every day and I didn't. I think he has done just fine playing against selected RHP and I love that he has shown very well against them recently.Notice he said "far and away our worst hitter against righties." Hmm guess I wasn't the only one who thought that. The poster I was talking to @BamaDoc said: No offense taken. I agree with most of what you state. To a large degree, and this will be unpopular to the antiTony crowd, I think LaRussa has done a pretty good job of playing matchups. Some of the reasons backups have some decent numbers to invoke is because they have been put in good matchups. I was surprised Lamb wasn't in last night. @chw42 said on June 20th in the midst of our slump said: Against RHP, I'd go Lamb at DH, Goodwin in LF, Engel in CF, and Leury in RF. You can even give Collins ABs at DH and have Lamb in LF if we don't have a fly ball heavy starter on the mound. I was thinking today Mmaybe you had a point about Vaughn's defense. After all Goodwin isn't so good at any OF defensive position and Vaughn at least makes all the plays he can get to. So i decided to look at fWAR for Vaughn and Goodwin. After all fWAR takes uses hitting ,defense and base running in that particular stat. Vaughn in all the playing time he has received so far was at .4 fWAR . Goodwin in far less playing time had a .6 . This doesn't mean I am advocating Goodwin play LF over Vaughn . All it really tells me is that Goodwin has hit very well in his short time here and hasn't been much of a liability in the field or on the bases. It also confirms your total misuse of SSS defensive stats which is what you are really mad about. I called you an amateur. I was willing to cut you some slack but apparently all you want to do is get revenge and cry.

No one likes to be that guy who the rest of the board thinks is full of shit especially when I always strive to be objective especially since I've gone 16 yrs on this board without much controversy. I never really thought that saying a kid who hadn't played above A ball sitting on the bench every once in a while would create so much venom when he had been so bad against RHP . I could find a ton of posts that said play him every day or send him down because people wanted the extra year of eligibility. I thought he could learn just as much getting a decent amount of starts against MLB RHP and sitting other times against them. The thing that pisses people off is that I don't back down like most posters do when confronted with an onslaught of negativity against your posts. I have had people just outright lie about how they interpret my feelings about Vaughn and tell me things I never said. I've backed up my opinions with stat after stat. If what I've been saying is so controversial why are the Sox doing exactly what I thought they should be doing ?

A thing of beauty !

I'll take this kind of run against any RHP that contribute to wins. It's what we've all been waiting for.It's all a part of the learning curve.

Feel free to quote any of my posts about Vaughn and tell me where I lied ? People keep lieing to me telling me I wanted him to be part of a weak side platoon. Search my posts see if you can find one that says that ? Come on back it up just don't tell me your opinion otherwise sit down and shut up.

Sorry I don't understand. What small sample size ? They're halfway though the season . It's at this point that teams analyze what they need. If you build your record against 3 terrible teams and play .500 against 26 teams doesn't that tell you something ? It's the same thing as last year only this year we have better starting pitching but a crappier pen. We've got fantastic contributions from bench players but how comfortable are you with those bench players in the playoffs ? Granted Eloy and Robert will return but will we be getting them at their best ? With them the lineup is overly RH . It's just a fact we need more power and more LHP.

I admit I've been hard on him but even those who like him no matter what have chimed in at different points of the season about sending him down. I never wanted that. I always wanted him here and getting AB's just not every day AB's against RHP but enough to keep him sharp. Most said play him all the time or send him down .I think he should be treated like any other player with his pedigree. Put him in the lineup against RHP you think he could hit and play him always against lefties. That's what they have been doing so if anyone has a quarrel with me you have a quarrel with the Sox too. I can't help it if people don't like me bringing up true facts.

Vaughn doing good is just as enjoyable as anyone else doing good.

Hot fire !!

You can challenge anything thats challengable if you haven't used your challenge in any inning. If you have lost a challenge you can still ask for one and the umps pretty much always will allow it .

You worry too much.

I'm more confident in Ruiz than Heuer. 8th inning hasn't been great for Ruiz but it wasn't been great for many others either.

No such thing as an auto challenge. It has to be asked for.

Should've been challenged.

Let's Go !!

Let's Go !!

It's rare for any RH hitter to put up the kind of month Yermin did in MLB because of the proliferation of RHP . Luis Robert started out great then his slump was just as bad as Mercedes but he still provided a great deal of defensive and base running value. Being older and not having a position to play means they had to replace him. You can't carry 1 one dimensional player whose 1 dimension is broken. Vaughn is another rookie who has struggled against RHP all year but not to the depths that Merecedes or Robert did. If you are considered a key piece to the organization's future you are allowed to play your way out of slumps and adjust to MLB on the fly while the team is still winning . Vaughns case is different than Robert's and Mercedes in that before this season he had not advanced beyond A ball in the minors and much of his development was conducted in Schamburg last year when there was no 2020 season for him. The general consensus on Vaughn is that he will be a special hitter and needs time to hit RHP well. He already hits quite well against LHP. The slew of injuries in the OF has forced the Sox to play him out of position and into the lineup . Neither the April or slumping Mercedes is the real Mercedes. It's somewhere in between. There is such a vast difference that figuring out where that mid level is and seeing it consistently is problematic when you don't play a position and are not regarded as a future corner stone of the organization. I never actually thought he would get a shot with the Sox or much of one with another team. It was great he got that chance and did the most with it and unfortunate it could not be sustained . He was feast of famine in a position that didn't allow for famine unless the Sox paid $10M a year for him like they did Edwin Encarnacion.

So you think 26 other teams the Sox are playing .500 against are all good teams ?