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He showed 'em !

I'm just here to read the reactions to the Madrigal HR.

I divided Engels career into 2 parts: 2017 and 1st half of 2018 . 575 AB ,104 H = .181 Batting Average, 22 doubles , 5 triples , 8 HR = 35 extra base hits 2nd half 2018, 2019, 2020 496 AB 128 H =.258 Batting Average , 21 doubles, 5 triples, 13 HR = 39 extra base hits. 79 less AB's for Engel from the 2nd half of 2018 through 2020. Despite that he has more extra base hits. He still K's a lot and doesn't talk many walks , however when he puts the ball in play he makes good contact with power . His BABIP's for 2nd half of 2018 through 2020 are .364, .343 and .348 so he's been fairly consistent when he' makes contact it's usually good contact. Which do we think is more relevant his stats from his 1st 575 AB's of his career or the last 496 AB's ? Pretty simple choice you take the more recent stats to give you a more realistic view. This may help for anyone citing his career average.

Everything you said is true. Stats support you defensively. Engel IS a much better OFer than Leury. I don't think one person has said anything that would constitute expectations being out of line . Lot's of people are interested to see if what Engel did last year, from what he absorbed from Menechino, can be duplicated. The only thing I am expecting is better defense to start . Yes, eventually I expect Engel to hit more extra base hits than either Leury or Hamilton but that bar isn't high.

I can't read any Fegan articles because I don't subscribe and I know from the opinions I've read about him including yours, think he is far and away the best when compared to other beat writers. So without the material I need to make up my mind about him , besides tweets, I get the general impression that he does let his personal beliefs color things he writes. Nothing wrong with that I if you are a fan of the team. I'm guessing he is a fan of the Sox rather than an outside journalist who might make more of an attempt to be impartial. I am open to being wrong about him , it's just my general impression.

Can't read any The Athletic articles if you are providing a link to provide any kind of proof to your opinion that it looked like he was tagged or the 90% thing you said. I don't think your opinion is in the article . Did you not see the replay and thus are adapting someone elses opinion as your own ?

See what you said there. "It looks like" is not the same as there was 100% irrefutable evidence that he was tagged. That's what is needed to overturn the decision. This kind of misinterpretation of the intent of replay just lends credence to Matheny's beef. I'd like to find out where you get this "90% think he was out" stuff . Benetti was looking at replays and thought he was tagged twice , once on the foot and once where you said he was tagged but eventually came to the conclusion that nothing was definitive. SOme might say they saw the jersey move but is that definitive? A jersey is loose to begin with and Abreu is sliding. If the jersey moved who is to say it wasn't just rippling or moving from the act of sliding ? I couldn't see anything to say 100% he was tagged.

Ok I'll say something about that Fegan article . This might be what he thinks he's perceiving based on his own thoughts or is it truly the mood ? I'm talking about the real or perceived idea among the Sox players as if they caught a break. He's intimating they know that Abreu was tagged out by smirking their way through answers when they talk about it. Use the word "smirk" and it implies something conniving or sly like you got away with something. Fegan's a fine writer and he may be telling the truth as he sees it but I don't like it. I would have preferred something like " we all saw the replay and there wasn't irrefutable evidence to reverse the call" . I'm sure some quotes like that were available. I don't like that he says the truth was different than the calls made on the field or by the league after further review.

Engel's got more pop than Hamilton and Leury put together. It's bad when Eaton is the leading HR hitter among any OF. Vaughn will catch him soon but adding one more HR guy into the mix will help, not to mention you should get near Hamilton-like defense from him. It would be great if Engel can come out smacking the ball all around the park . I do expect a fair amount of rust but hoping for instant offense.

I think he's sucked for the last month because he was playing hurt a lot of times. He was supposed to have an off day on the day Robert got hurt when he seemed to be hurting badly and was K'ing a bunch. Lately his swing has looked better with some off days in the schedule . Engel's going on a rehab assignment soon so hopefully Leury is not used as much in the OF.

I said I wanted him to swing away. I'm not factoring his recent stretch into it very much. It's a pretty small sample size . He's LH vs. RHP Wade Davis hopefully he can pull it to the right side and advance Tim to 3rd or get a hit and drive him in. I wasn't bothered that he bunted. I hoped it would work.. TLR let guys swing away all day and they stranded a bunch of guys so he played some small ball. I don't think that's so bad. It looks worse if he pops it up but you trust that he can get it done. He trusted some guys to get some clutch hits in the 8 previous innings and too many were stranded.Moncada blew through a stop sign trying to score the winning run so they were in pretty good position before that extra out.

I wanted Eaton to swing away but if you think of all the possible outs that don't advance him, K, pop out in field, shallow fly ball to the OF , GO to pitcher or 3rd base then I can understand wanting a fast runner on 3rd with just 1 out. Of course then maybe Mathehy walks Moncada and tried to set up the DP but he didn't . I know it's sort of playing for the tie rather than for the win., but you have to tie it 1st. I was more bothered that TLR didn't PH for either Leury or Madrigal in the 8th with a guy like Holland who sucks against lefties. Leury's strong side isn't LH and I would have preferred Lamb or Collins to have at least pinch hit for Madrigal. I don't know if KC had a rested LHP in the BP but a good manager would know that and decide if he thought PH Lamb or Collins was worth it if there was a LH warming up.

I looked as close as I could to see if any part of Abreu jersey moved and I saw nothing on the best replay angle that might show that.

Suck it Matheny !

This can't be said enough. +100000000

I don't see how anyone with eyes could think he was out. You have to find a contact point of the glove to the skin or jersey to say he was tagged. I saw none of that . No altered movement of the glove or jersey to indicate there was a tag.Therefore inconclusive and the call stands.

Don't know what you said here but I'll say you were saying Jose was safe.

Doesn't really address the PH issue. I remember one time he had Eaton PH for Vaughn early in the season when Vaughn was scuffling and Eaton hit a HR.

Thought for sure there would be a pinch -hitter for either Leury or Madrigal. Either Lamb or Collins.

Don't Cease, Get It , Get It !

We could add Trent Grisham in the pick after Fulmer .

https://www.milb.com/scores/chicago-white-sox/2021-05-15 Curbelo hit his 5th HR for W-S in a win. M. Hernandez (2), Nick Williams (1) and Seby Zavala (3) with HR's in a win fro Charlotte. Dedelow (4) and Adolfo (3) hit HR's in a win for Birmingham. Kanny 1st win of the year 1-0 after 10 straight losses to open the season.

Yep he's in the opening post in the video link.

Kopech was good , real good. You lose a weapon for the pen when he starts but hopefully all in the name of keeping him sharp for any role they decide to use him down the stretch.