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The guy I quoted obviously. When you don't increase payroll and don't provide pitching depth it is always a question of making the playoffs rather than winning once there.

But the question should be why couldn't this be our year ? Which is the same question I have every year we make the playoffs. So not that often . And with that in mind, that playoff appearances are a rare thing, and will continue to be a rare thing until proven otherwise, I will continue to ask why wouldn't the Sox try to win a World Series every year in the window ?

I'm particularly interest in the guys who showed quick bats and upticks in velocity. McClure, Jose Rodriquez and Bryan Ramos.

Are the Sox going to try him at many different positions ? Would be nice to see him try the OF, 2nd, 3rd and not just end up another DH type. There's a lot of value in versatile guys which is an aspect of the Sox system that should be addressed more.

A surprise can work both ways. So that makes you right no matter how he does.

Maybe rephrase the question to say who you think will suck less.

It's a hard choice. Most of us realize how frugal the front office is so we shape our opinions based on that. Keeping the majority of the kids really isone of the only things that gives a Sox a shot at longer term success. Plus people fall in love with prospects. Even an older prospect like Dunning's loss was rued by many here because it was for only 1 year of a pitcher. Now , myself, I wouldv'e been perfectly fine if anyone offered a nice player for Crochet. Would've had to be a decent starting pitcher with at least 3 years left, with Crochet as the center piece. I will be thrilled if he can keep his arm healthy this year, because I would rather be wrong than right. But even that doesn't get the Sox out of the woods on him. Next year he becomes a starting pitcher with an even bigger innings load. I also don't believe the Sox can maintain a long run for more than 3 more years. Reinsdorf couldn't even commit any money to this year's team. He just shifted pieces around and hired some new coaches even though a really good team this year maybe gets some fans in the park some time this year and headed into a full year of season tickets and good attendance next year . Of course there will probably be a strike in what looks like it should've been the Sox best year if someone steps up to replace Lynn and Kopech looks good. Keep that payroll down headed into a strike, and the 3 year window goes out the door sabotaged by Covid, labor unrest and JR. Anything other than that is a risk. The kids can come out of the other side of all that stuff still here . Trading for better players with less time on their contracts just means a higher percent of their time is wasted.

Have to disagree. If I could see that train wreck coming so should have the Sox . It was just like LaRoche. EE was just older . A couple of years of declining stats that anyone could see. $10M could've been given to another pitcher. You do that and use Collins or Mercedes maybe one of them actually produces. Now you have a better lineup that could have advanced farther in the playoffs. Then you also have more pitching (depending on what you used EE money for) and another good hitter heading into the current off season. A lot would've had to go right and we still might not have advanced in the playoff but maybe we would have won the division and home field for the 1st leg but at the very least we find out some things about Mercedes or Collins that we are still waiting to find out and maybe never find out. It's one thing to wait until the very end of the off season and spend 2 or 3M on depth pieces. The Sox were tapped out after Rodon. $10M seems to be something we can't spend on just 1 player now. The Sox essentially have the same payroll as last year. They just swapped out some players for others signed a HOF manager and said OK Katz do your thing. Make our kids better. On a weird side note when I was talking about Katz and the kid pitchers something popped into my head: The Katzenjammer Kids. I couldn't even remember what it was so I googled it.

No that's the term Chitownsportsfan was looking for when he said throw some rocks into the water from a boat. Mine was just an older saying meaning the same thing.

Did you notice the bulk of the salary is paid 11/30/21 ? I wonder if that means the Dodgers are still over the CBT level and it goes on next years book instead. Don't the Dodgers have a lot of money coming off the books next year ? SO if I'm right only $18M on the books this year for Bauer . IDK how all this financial stuff works accounting wise but maybe the Dodgers just saved a bunch of money on the CBT . Might still be over it but not by nearly as much. But you can still see that 1st year of salary no matter when its paid + the bonus is still higher than the combined salary's of Lynn, Hendriks, Eaton and Rodon for 2021 . Right ? I don't think I really have to do the math to see that.

I actually don't think they learned anything. It's been the team's M.O. to purchase old decaying vets in the past and they didn't learn anything from their failures. You even got one guy here saying they wish they did it more for depth and it's only money when clearly the money matters and they suck at finding veteran help in that price range . Apparently he doesn't know the difference between a starter and depth guys costs. Rodon was a waste of $3M . But If he ends up starting for a few months before he gets injured without getting his head knocked from his neck maybe he will have earned it. Then he can be let go and the Sox can sign him next winter.

I remember an old saying about "he couldn't hit the broad side of a barn." Ahh those old sayings from back when there were a lot of farms. Of course I grew up in the inner city . Houses so close together u could put your feet and hands on each wall and climb your way up.

What is wrong with u ? The guy is a teacher. He likes to teach. You can walk out of the classroom if you don't like it without telling the guy to STFU.

He did good then taking his time. Thought it might be lower because his traditional stats were good but nothing much shows up as good on his statcast stuff.

Curious to see how much he got.

7-1-1 in their last 9. Nice to see they eeked out some wins in Detroit when they were due to fold against weak competition. Lot's of talk about the hungry kids buying into Colliton's system. It's not always talent in hockey that can make teams win. Team work , everyone pulling on the same rope, goes a long way. They are putting in the work winning 50/50 battles , gaining confidence that the Colliton way is the right way.

Will be pretty sad when Hendriks get's overused and injured.

We can compromise between his fish name and injury prone name and call him the Glass Flipper. Maybe only Boomers know that Flipper was the most famous Dolphin ever due to the ancient TV show. Or just Flipper.

Maybe he should have a fish nickname like the Big Tuna or Dolphin Jimenez.

Are we sure Morosi won't follow up that tweet with a corrected one saying the exact opposite ?

Eloy gets no jump on the ball whatsoever. What strides ? He hasn't injured himself or anyone else lately ?

When is lately? The other thread according to Fegan just said from this point forward only NRI's and there are FA's left out there who apparently would sign with just about any team.

Apparently any other decent FA pitcher wasn't needed but Rodon was needed. Forked tongue alert !

Because according to you odds are really really high they are anything more than AAAA players so easily replaced.

It's just disappointing that while in a rebuild that the Sox couldn't find key pieces that they could keep for a while. It's just not guys who are HOF'ers but guys that the Dodgers have picked up over the years who contributed many years to playoff teams and the World Series winning teams like Justin Turner, Max Muncy and Chris Taylor. It would especially disappointing if they are in your own backyard. Granted those are guys who played a position or were versatile. All had issues that made them expendable but the Dodgers worked with them. Turner was non tendered, Muncy released and Taylor acquired in a prospect for prospect trade although Taylor had played in 3 seasons with Seattle and had 256 PA to that point. No one traded for Muncy and Turner either. https://www.sportingnews.com/us/mlb/news/justin-turner-max-muncy-dodgers/yjsdqzrvult5158lxp5l6729t