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QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 06:09 PM) This. Holy s***, how did we not outbid 3/$21? This makes me angry. Angry hippos are dangerous. Is the picture getting any clearer for you now on the Sox plans this offseason ?

QUOTE (Jillian Michaels' Abs @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 06:01 PM) Seriously folks, let's settle down. On December 9th (or whenever his "I'll let you know" date is), the Sox will re-sign Paul Konerko.... so we've got that going for us. Hahn's secret plan is to do nothing significant to make PK not want to play with them , then after he annouces his retirement ,Bam !! I feel better now.

QUOTE (StRoostifer @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 05:57 PM) Do the Sox have room in the payroll for Cano? Not a snowball's chance in hell.

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 05:41 PM) I'm okay with this. I'm sure Abreu, Sale , Quintana and Avi Garcia will be thrilled also if the Sox sit on their Hahnds .

QUOTE (daggins @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 05:41 PM) They'll probably still sign Cano. Too bad luxury tax fines don't get distributed to other teams . Sox might find some money to spend then.

QUOTE (Knuckles @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 05:43 PM) Looks like done deal pending physical for Jacoby and Yankees. Also in that trade between the A's and Rangers anther very good defensive CF off the board. According to Fangraphs :And then there’s the defense. Over the last three years, here is the UZR/150 leaderboard for players with at least 1,000 innings in center field. 1. Craig Gentry, +30.4 2. A.J. Pollock, +24.2 3. Lorenzo Cain, +23.2 4. Carlos Gomez, +21.0 5. Peter Bourjos, +14.0

The Yankees are closing in on a seven-year deal with Jacoby Ellsbury, according to Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com. "It could happen," someone familiar with the talks told Heyman. It is believed the deal would top Carl Crawford's $142MM, seven-year deal. from mlbtraderumors

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 05:00 PM) Seriously. If the Sox major league team sucks so badly, why do any other GMs want them? If the Sox minor league system is so bad, who is going to trade major leaguers for them? No one does want them yet . Maybe we can snag another Leury Garcia. Oh joy.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 02:40 PM) Yes, because all of 0 minutes have passed at the winter meetings thus far. Tell that to all the other GM's .

QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 03:08 PM) Plus Fowler will be a FA before the Sox are ready to compete, no need to give up value for that. I have not seen a deal yet that I thought Hahn either had the resources to make or wish he would have made if he could have. There is a lot of time left and the winter meetings haven't even started. I expect Hahn to be looking only at long term cost controlled pieces and there have not been many of those moved thus far. If that's the case and by judging by the trade deadline in the summer getting pieces like that is going to be extremely difficult since the Sox don't have any major pieces left to snag anyone like that .

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 02:32 PM) At least Salty's still there... oh wait there he goes! (Miami) 3/$21M There we go . How could the Sox not be interested at that price ?

QUOTE (JoshPR @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 01:38 PM) Ding ding ding ding..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Tign4Ne5sBorrowed from SSS . Dylan and his lovely wife doing wonderful work with guys with Cerebral Palsy.

The Marlins have offered Saltalamacchia a two-year deal with a club option for a third season, according to Phil Mackey of 1500 ESPN. If a guaranteed 3 yr deal is all it takes to get Salty any chance Hahn jumps in ?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 11:16 AM) Phil Mackey ‏@PhilMackey 15m Source tells me #Marlins are offering Saltalamacchia 2 years w/ 3rd-yr team option. Guessing Twins will have to top it (guarantee 3rd year?) Most were guessing in the 4 yr. range . Maybe Hahn jumps in the bidding if it's 3 years. Nah.

Hard to beleive the NHL thread is so quiet. Clearly threads thrive on bad news . Success and stability must be boring. Hawks approaching dynasty status and you can hear a pin drop in here.

QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 09:54 AM) Certainly....just not hearing an update besides the Flowers resign has me just a tad bit worried. I understand completely. The Rays sign Hanigan basically saying hey no catchers can hit so might as well sign the one who can throw out a runners and work a walk while we still have catchers who can't do anything right.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 09:35 AM) Traded to Rays. Possible 3 team trade per Rosenthal Rays basically saying if we'e going to have a catcher who can't hit might as well have the best guy at throwing out baserunners and walks plenty and doesn't K a lot either. Smart.

QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 09:45 AM) An update from Bucket would be really nice.....doesnt look like we're getting Salty(Marlins & Twins)....what's left? Kurt Suzuki? Still plenty of catchers the Sox could trade for.

QUOTE (Jillian Michaels' Abs @ Dec 3, 2013 -> 09:40 AM) I wish I could be a fly on the wall in just one staff meeting leading up to the GM meetings, so I could know what the hell the Sox are doing/planning/wanting our of their roster next season. You would be swatted and squished. No leaks allowed !

Catcher's flying off the shelves, Twins spending money in free agency and still looking at Salty too. Tigers making crazy moves and about to sign Nathan. Rumors that Ellsbury might sign during the winter meetings. All kinds of things happening. Hahn and the Sox more under the radar than even KW was. When Konerko says "I'm baaaaaaaack" and the Sox sing "Welcome Back" I expect a 50 page thread.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Dec 2, 2013 -> 06:36 PM) source? Its on the mlbtraderumors list http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/nontenders2014 but no links provided for Beckham, De Aza and Viciedo , just Flowers and Ax.

De Aza, Beckham, Viciedo, Flowers all tendered , Axlerod non-tendered.

QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 1, 2013 -> 08:15 PM) The problem is that they tried to make quantitative. They made a series of small, subjective opinions about each player and turned them into numbers and then analyzed the result of the numbers as if to say, "numbers don't lie!" Nobody could say with a straight face that Alejandro is one of the worst CF in baseball, but the numbers say so (that a guy made up)! If he just said, I think this guy is better and here are some reasons I'd take it more seriously. Instead, the results don't even reflect his opinions, but rather an arbitrary score based on his opinions -- in other words, I guarantee the list is not in the order it would be if he tossed out the numbers and just ranked them based on who he thought was better. I don't know man you can take 1000 guys with infinite baseball knowledge with all the latest stats on offense and defense and baserunning then throw in health and age and future projection and you 're still going to come up with 1000 different lists when your taking so many players into consideration. I'm sure not going to blow a gasket like most commenters do because someone elses opinion is different then mine. I take following the Sox very seriously but it's the nature of the beast for all those argumentatove, outraged commenters not to keep in mind the writer tried to take all aspects of a players game into consideration but some stuff is very subjective . I read a lot of the individual ranking sand what I saw about the Sox players was pretty much spot on wether it was Dunn, De Aza or Viciedo. Where they end up in the rankings doesn't really matter . The guy seemed like he did his homework. There's just so much research you can do before you have to write the article and you're bound to screw up somewhere since metrics often conflict .

QUOTE (raBBit @ Dec 1, 2013 -> 08:30 PM) The fact that posters are reaching for Bleacher Report for news means we need the Winter Meetings more than anything. Thankfully they begin a week from tomorrow. The cannot come soon enough. You can only go to Soxtalk, SSS , MLBtraderumors, CSN, CBSsports, ESPNChicago so many times before you look at B/R for anything new I haven't already seen about my Sox.

QUOTE (Jake @ Dec 1, 2013 -> 08:15 PM) The problem is that they tried to make quantitative. They made a series of small, subjective opinions about each player and turned them into numbers and then analyzed the result of the numbers as if to say, "numbers don't lie!" Nobody could say with a straight face that Alejandro is one of the worst CF in baseball, but the numbers say so (that a guy made up)! If he just said, I think this guy is better and here are some reasons I'd take it more seriously. Instead, the results don't even reflect his opinions, but rather an arbitrary score based on his opinions -- in other words, I guarantee the list is not in the order it would be if he tossed out the numbers and just ranked them based on who he thought was better. I can say with a straight face De Aza is just about the worst CF in baseball defensively if you use DRS as a metric. Throw in his outs on the bases and your looking at a pretty bad overall CF with not a lot of upside to look forward to.