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QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Dec 4, 2008 -> 11:32 AM) This is a pretty funny thread. which part...the whining about where stuff should go or the actual Braves content?

QUOTE (Lemon_44 @ Dec 3, 2008 -> 08:00 PM) Here's what i can see happening. I think Broadway gets dealt for Tavares. I wouldn't be surprised if that hasn't already been agreed on. I think Dye gets moved to the Reds. If money is the issue in this trade maybe we send Dye,either BA or Owens,and maybe Lillibridge to the Reds for Bailey and either Arroyo or Harang.That would even the money out a little bit. Then the Sox sign Dunn in free agency. That would give us a team looking like: SP-Buehrle, Floyd,Danks, Harang, and Bailey/Poreda/Marquez/Richard bullpen:Thornton,Linebrink,loser of the 5th spot,Russel,Dotel, Jenks Lineup: CF-Tavares 2b-Getz RF-Quentin LF-Dunn DH-Thome 1B-Konerko SS-Alexei C-AJ 3B-Fields bench players: Betemit, Nix,backup C, Owens/BA, Wise This team is no different really from last year with Dunn in the lineup. No thanks. Tavares in CF I can see. But not Dunn. Puts us back in the same old plodding HR hitting funk which people have b****ed about the past few year.

How did Lillibridge all of a sudden vault up the ladder? The dude looks like he'd get the s*** beaten out of him by one of the Olsen sisters for god sakes. Granted...I've never seen him play or anything...but geez. But I do love the fact that all of a sudden we have such an plethora of talent in the minors.

QUOTE (DBAHO @ Dec 3, 2008 -> 04:18 PM) Where abouts are San Francisco's and Oakland's Spring Training Locations at in Phoenix (if I wanted to see the games b/w the 19th and 22nd)? SF is in downtown Scottsdale...actually a pretty fun place to go see a game if you want to head out to some bars or restaurants close by afterwards. It's pretty much in Old Town Scottsdale. Oakland (probably my least favorite one to go to)is in Phoenix down by the zoo (59th St-Van Buren). Not the greatest location unless you're looking to head back towards downtown on Van Buren and pick up some skanky hookers.

Cole Armstrong can't be too happy. Unless it's Kenny's vision to have Flowers and Cole on the roster in 3 years or so.

QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Dec 3, 2008 -> 03:28 PM) If we are giving up Jenks and Dye... I want Beltran in part of this deal. This is from October and probably means nothing but hell...October 10, 2008 The New York Mets will be willing to listen to offers for center fielder Carlos Beltran, according to MetsBlog.com. Beltran would be nice...but I can't see Kenny taking him on at $18.M per year for 3 more years. $8.5 million of Beltran’s salaries in the 2008-2011 seasons are being deferred and paid to him after the contract expires...so even if the Mets would pick up the deferments that's still over $15.5 a year...which in itself isn't unreasonable IMO if he produced big numbers. But realistically speaking...it think it would be more along the lines of Fernando Martinez and others like was stated before by others.

QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 3, 2008 -> 03:30 PM) http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/cws/downlo...ng_schedule.pdf Thanks flavum. What's WBC on March 6th?

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 3, 2008 -> 12:46 PM) Why would the Rangers want a LH reliever for someone who can be a starting CFer? I think we're overvaluing Aaron Poreda way too much here, and undervaluing Josh Fields. Probably like a lot of Ranger fans and front office people did with Danks too huh?!?

Why are they changing? I've always liked the Warthog name and logo....

QUOTE (BearSox @ Nov 26, 2008 -> 10:04 PM) Yunel Escobar, and it's a deal! Or Tommy Hanson.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Nov 21, 2008 -> 01:09 PM) Crawford breaks down like this. 2009: $8.25 million club option w/$2.5 million buyout, 2010: $10 million club option w/$1.25 million buyout, 2011: Free Agent About the time I think Jordan Danks would be ready to man CF IMO....so I would make some sense.

When it's all said and done I have a feeling that Willy Taveras will be in the leadoff spot this year. Do I like it...meh. But I think it's the most feasible solution without costing a whole lot and would fill the biggest hole IMO.

What an outstanding thing to log onto and find. Damn...how could you not be stoked about the young nucleus of this team.

I agree with TBolt... I think he'll start out down in the order when he comes up (7-8-9)...but eventually end up in the 2 hole. I honestly don't think it'll make any difference...once he's up and gets adjusted...he'll be successful. That whole "choppy swing" thing still cracks me up.

QUOTE (scenario @ Nov 19, 2008 -> 01:38 PM) Absolutely. It's like going to any other big city. Lots to do. And it's not very far from 'the valley' (Phoenix area) to some pretty scenic mountain and lake areas too. So... pretty much whatever you like to do, you could probably find there. I don't know scenario...I've been out here 24 years...and really not all that fond of it. Everybody's from someplace else so you really don't have all that much of a community feel at all. March is BY FAR my favorite time of the year. Sure you can go to NBA, MLB, NFL, NHL or ASU games...but overall I really don't think there's a whole lot to do besides that out here without driving quite a ways. Flagstaff is nice. White Mountains (4+ hours away...I lived up there about a year) are nice. Grand Canyon...meh. Sedona...meh. Best thing IMO is driving for 6 hours to San Diego. Rocky Point in Mexico is farely close too...as is Vegas. If I stay here (which I probably will) I'll be buying a pontoon in the next year or so to head out to some of the closer lakes (that have no trees btw) like Pleasant and Bartlett and spend my weekends drinkin' beer and fishing. It's just so the same all the time...hotter than crap...and a little cool for a short while. But anybody coming out here...March is BY FAR the best month to be here IMO.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 05:14 PM) I'd prefer to go with "bonerific". Yeah. Gordon Beckham's first extra base hit in a White Sox hat helmet will be bonerific and it will come in Glendale, Arizona. Not sure why they keep saying Glendale...TECHNICALLY it's within the Phoenix city limits...but it's land that's owned by Glendale from what I understand. Whatever though.... Looks like the Dbacks are gonna bolt now too...

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 07:49 PM) He was also pitching with an arm injury, right? I'd hope so if he's only throwing 85...or he better have some SERIOUS junk/movement.

QUOTE (scenario @ Nov 18, 2008 -> 03:18 PM) A nice early Christmas present for you!! I think you are officially THE closest Soxtalk poster to the new spring training facility. I am soooo jealous. Seems like a fair trade-off now. Get the Sox for a month...roast my sac off for the next 7!!

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 16, 2008 -> 12:23 PM) 25 minutes away. It's in Mesa. Rented most of the year but we always keep it free for a couple weeks in March so when we go to spring training we got the place to stay. You must drive REEEEEEEEEEEALLY FAST. I live in Glendale and am still 15-20 minutes away. All I can say about this move is YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!! :headbang

QUOTE (sayitaintso @ Nov 17, 2008 -> 12:20 AM) I believe that Jose definitely would have rocked a pink stache. sayitaintso...haven't had too many avatars that made me LOL...literally. Wilford Brimley ROCKS!!!!!!

QUOTE (bighurt4life @ Nov 16, 2008 -> 05:08 PM) Interesting question RE your post. Would you trade Danks for Fielder straight up? Fielder has already shown he's got super stud status. Danks looks like he's quickly heading that way but is still an unknown having just one good season. I wouldn't even think about it. With such an onus on pitching...why would you trade your almost ace for an overweight, out of shape 1B?!?

QUOTE (Kenny Hates Prospects @ Nov 16, 2008 -> 04:23 PM) I wouldn't put the situation of the farm system all on Kenny's shoulders for these reasons: 1. Kenny has a great eye for talent. He was the Sox director of minor league operations from 1995-1997 and then VP of player development from 1997-2000 before he became Sox GM. So yes, Kenny had a big hand in the Sox developing one of the best farm systems in baseball at that point. Kenny gets criticized for depleting it through trades and not rebuilding it, but there are some possible explanations for some of that as well. 2. Kenny cannot be in every place at every time. His duties concerning the Major League team which deal with trades, contracts, free agency, marketing, player evaluations, and whatever else he has to do take up his time. The guy has a job that is I'm sure much harder than some fans think. It's not like Kenny sits around with a video game controller trying about potential trades on X-Box or reading Baseball Prospectus. The guy has a lot of s*** going on and he can't be in the minor leagues watching all these guys. 3. Kenny did not agree with the old regime left over from Schueler. It all depends on whether you believe him or not, but Kenny said he let the minor league people make decisions for the most part until the '07 draft where he took over and selected Poreda. Poreda >>>>>> McCulloch and Broadway who were taken in the first round in the two years prior. 4. You have to trust people. Kenny trusted people and then got burned by Wilder and his asshole companions. When you have someone who you feel has a great eye for talent and is also one of your closest friends stab you in the back, it has to be hard. Thankfully Kenny now understands that Wilder is a cocksucker and now Kenny can move on with real baseball people in place instead of liars and thieves. The impact Wilder had on Latin American scouting will probably never get the attention it deserves, and none of us know just how serious that impact was. All I know is that the Sox went from finding guys like Maggs and Carlos Lee to signing Paulo Orlando and Juan Silverio. Talk about a drop-off. 5. There has to at some point be word coming down from the very top not to make a habit of going way over slot in the draft against the wishes of the commissioner's office. Other teams like the Red Sox, Angels, Yankees, and Tigers seem to get away with this but most teams steer clear. Given Kenny's eye for talent and willingness to use highly rated prospects as resources for the Major Leage team, I have no reason to suspect this is all Kenny's call. When you look at some of the farm systems out there, there is often a common theme: either they suck a lot and get high draft choices or they spend a s***load on the draft and through international free agency. Kenny's goal, and rightfully so, is to be like the Braves, who scout well and are active in Latin America but don't just hand out s***loads of money to whoever is supposed to be a good player. I just have to say that I really love the job Kenny has done with this team over the last several years as he has grown into his role, and I feel strongly that the revamping of the farm system will make us an elite organization in the future. These last two drafts, but especially the last one, have me extremely hopeful. It's not because of the name players either, like Beckham, Danks, etc. but it's because of the finds. If you look down the list we've got some interesting guys already pulled out of the later rounds of the draft for the last couple of years. I really think that we'll end up having some very productive drafts; maybe we won't draft and develop a ton of our Major League players, but I think we'll add a lot more depth to the system and it will result in trades for better Major League talent. Great post Kenny!...

Not much to report about today's game. Beck got a little time at 3B and turned a nice DP at 2B. Danks didn't play (pinch ran though). Cole caught today and had a sac fly. REALLY wanted to see Marquez throw.... Only 4 games left....

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 15, 2008 -> 04:17 PM) Tucson blows compared to Peoria. Im happy that they will be near Phoenix, because Tucson was just too far away from anything of interest. They're really building up that area of the Valley too where the stadium is going. Westgate...the area next to the hockey arena and football stadium is really a pretty fun place and a lot is going up out here...plus pretty close to Arrowhead (where Peoria Sports Complex is). Not very much in terms of night life (clubs if you're into that...but plenty of bars) though...that's still in Scottsdale and Tempe. But what really sucked about where the Sox were in Tucson...the area SUCKED. I'm not a big Tucson fan anyway...but there is some pretty decent stuff there. But can't compare to being in the Valley. Tell ya what though...out of all the spring training facilities...Peoria has BY FAR the best food. Hope this new one follows suit.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Nov 14, 2008 -> 05:55 PM) Any of our Arizona area fans up for scouting the kid? Well...unless he throws tomorrow...that'll be it for me. Don't play Sunday...and no can do the day games this week. Season ends on Thursday.