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Don't know if ya'll were listening...but, I actually got through and was on the air with Eric.

QUOTE(toasty @ Jul 26, 2005 -> 09:28 AM) putting him on waivers doesnt say that cincy will pay part of his salary. if the sox and cincy work out a deal for the salary, that doesnt have to be offered anywhere else... so if a team claims him off waivers, his whole large contract goes with it Wow. Thanks for the info. That is certainly something I was not aware of.

QUOTE(Mr. Showtime @ Jul 26, 2005 -> 09:24 AM) Never know with Kenny, but I only see one big trade. Me too, dude. That is why all these pie-in-the-sky threads have had me rolling on the floor. Don't get me wrong, I was just as suprised as anyone when Kenny made the such a high number of moves this off-season...I don't think anyone saw that coming. But, when your team has the best record in baseball and it is widely believed to have some of the best "chemistry" in baseball, you aren't going to move current pieces of the MLB roster or start making moves left and right.

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Jul 26, 2005 -> 09:22 AM) 2 quick points. Griffey can only play center because its easier on the hammy's to play center than to have to do the turn and throw from the corner outfielder spots. THis is according to JD Drew. The other point is that Griffey might be the one big name out there whose contract is so big that he could get moved in August. THis might be a Larry Walker deal where it goes down weeks after the deadline. Didn't Walker have to clear those waviers or whatever? What are the odds no one will claim a guy like Griffey if he comes through the wire? Remember, the Yankees are still desperate for a CF.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jul 26, 2005 -> 09:16 AM) ESPN insider Fish hooked? Jul 26 - According to South Florida Sun-Sentinel, a Marlins scout was in Syracuse, N.Y., over the weekend, where top White Sox pitching prospect Brandon McCarthy tossed six strong innings for Triple-A Charlotte. McCarthy, 22, has been mentioned frequently as a key cog in a White Sox offer for A.J. Burnett. He is just 3-7 with a 5.17 ERA this year in the minors, but reports on the 6- foot-7 strikeout artist remain strong. The top hitters on the Charlotte roster include outfielders Brian Anderson, the White Sox's top prospect, and Joe Borchard, a former No. 1 overall draft pick. Want him, Marlins? Do you guys happen to have any boxes of BP balls laying around? Oh, what's that? You do. Ok, he's yours. ...I still want Lowell--contract or not.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 26, 2005 -> 09:15 AM) I'd deal them both, cause quite frankly, Griffey may be the only draw, but he still costs them more than he brings in, imo. They need to get from out of his contract. If I were to deal Dunn, I'd hurt his trade value a bit, but I'd try and tie Eric Milton to him. Yes, two excellent points. I guess, at some point, you have to ask yourself if Griffey is costing you more than the scratch he is bringing in through the turnstiles. As for Dunn + Milton, you would undoubtedly hurt Dunn's value package, but you would get out from under a NASTY contract in the meantime for a very, very underwhelming player in Eric Milton.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jul 26, 2005 -> 09:10 AM) If you're Dan O' Brien do you trade Adam Dunn before Ken Griffey Jr.? Heck yes, for two main reasons. 1) I believe Dunn will net a lot more via trade at this point in his career...his stock is awfull high right now at 25 or 26 years of age. 2) GRIFFEY IS THE ONLY DRAW IN CINCY Like I've said before, I'd have to be blown off my feet to trade Griffey right now despite the albatrose of a contract. You see what I'm getting at?

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jul 26, 2005 -> 09:06 AM) How do you know Geesh. I know Grossman is the hometown boy, but Smith is one of the most polished players to come out of the draft within past 5-8 years...especially at the quarterback position. Accuracy: Advantage Smith Arm: Scratch Leadership: Advantage Smith Football Intelligence: Advantage Smith Ability to Move In/Out of the Pocket: BIG Advantage Smith ...I mean, I could go on and on, but let's just watch things play out.

Again, another situation where Kenny is really in the catbird's seat. If he plays his cards right, he may wait...and wait...and wait...and wait until he finds the Reds in a very desperate condition, wanting to rid themselves of Griffey in a major way. Now, if I was the Reds, there is no way I'm trading Griffey at the deadline unless I'm blown away. The guy remains the only draw in Cincy, he seems to be getting things back on track and...if for no other reason, he's Ken Fricking Griffey.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Jul 26, 2005 -> 06:16 AM) http://www.nj.com/mets/ledger/index.ssf?/b...7150.xml&coll=1 take it for what its worth This just in: a contending team wants one of the best young bats in the game. Newsflash.

QUOTE(MurcieOne @ Jul 26, 2005 -> 12:00 AM) Rex Grossman's Career > Alex Smith's Career but im biased Oh, come now. There is not a snowball's chance in hell that statement will ever be correct. To answer Krush's question, Smith proved to be the #1 selection for a reason. Although if Leinart stayed in the draft, he would have been the consensus #1 selection, Smith had some great combines and was always known to be one of the smartest players in the draft. I mean, not only does the guy have book smarts, but he lives in the taperoom and is always working to improve himself. He's the perfect guy for the 49ers franchise and I think they'll be very happy with their man.

This is a first. For the first time in my life, the house next to mine is being gutted. Wow. This blows. Although the guy doing the remodeling has been very polite, it's awfully tough living next to this mess. It seems like everytime I come home there is a fence gone, or a roof missing, or a dumpster parked in front of the house...I mean, it just doesn't end. Plus, waking me up before noon is NOT a good move. Anyone ever go through this before?

Sorry Fellas, I don't have the heart to make it past page 33. Any updates since noonish?

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 11:03 AM) Was that his SN here? That's exactly what I was trying to avoid. Mr. Post-alot: Jabroni.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 09:48 AM) He was available to another team for hardly anything. I forgot the specifics. I think he is arbitration eligible still next season, so the Sox could simply non-tender him at the end of the year if their is financial restraints. Texas is going to waive the white flag here soon, and probably would accept some pitching prospects for him. So, if the Sox can't agree to arbitration terms, or however that works, do we get draft picks? If that's the case, this may be a real intersting guy to think about. HEY! That would also mean the demotion of Willie Harris! Ye-Ha!!!! Make it happen Kenny!

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 09:43 AM) I'm talking about in certain situations. Just asking can he bunt and/or move runners over. Like I said, I'd like to get him. Wonder what it would take? I wonder. If the Rangers want to get rid of his horrid contract badly enough, he may be available for a bargain.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 09:41 AM) Soriano is on pace for 40 homers. He wouldn't be used to move guys over. Bingo. If, in fact, the Sox are thinking about Soriano, they are looking for an RBI/HR type. If Thomas is shelfed, and Lowell isn't included in the "prospective" Burnett deal for whatever reason, the Sox brass may start seriously looking at a big-time slugger.

Just asking: Can someone tell me why Aidan was banished from Soxdom? ...you know who it is. If it isn't any of my business, I apologize.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 09:24 AM) It is great the front office is being aggressive. ...just thinking the same thing. If Kenny nets Burnett, he would have acquired the two most covetted starting pitchers available at the trade deadline in consecutive years. Now, that's impressive.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 09:14 AM) Heck I would be more worried if he gave his "100% My Reputation Omar Vizquel" guarantee.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 09:08 AM) Bruce stopped just short of gauranteeing that Burnett would come to the Sox, rental or not. he was talking about how JR ok'ed adding a rental if it was necassary. He also talked pretty highly of Burnett, saying that Matt Clement told him that Burnett has more electric stuff than Prior, Wood, Beckett, anyone he has ever pitched with. I think I read on chicagosports.com or benmaller.com that JR is going to ok a rental, it was KW who prefers to get him signed if possible. No. Effing'. Way.

QUOTE(Wedge @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 08:57 AM) Is Levine really wrong? As far as I can tell (Trib articles), it sounds like KW has made something like an official offer to the Marlins. They, in turn, are taking their time on making a decision. Something was done in the 24 hour window, it's just that the Marlins have neither accepted nor declined the trade. I can not believe we are discussing this. I mean, Soxtalk LOVES to get nitpicky, but the past page or so have taken it to heights the likes of which have never been seen.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 08:51 AM) You're the one b****ing. Levine said something could happen in the next 24 hours. Using the phrase 24 hour window implies the teams have 24 hours to get something done or that window is shut. Here's an example,if they give the Sox a 72 hour "window" to negotiate a contract extension, if that extension isn't agreed upon during that time, the negotiation would be terminated unless Burnett became White Sox property. I don't like Levine, and find some of his stuff incredibly inaccurate. But all he said was talks were serious and a deal could be struck in the next 24 hours. People on this thread are calling him a liar. He actually hasn't said anything that isn't true, even if no deal is eventually agreed to. Here. This is for you. Now, do we all feel better? EDIT: By the way, I've done nothing BUT defend Levine in this thread; if you could find some b****ing, I'd love to see it. The guy heard a deal would get done within the next 24 hours; I started a new thread in hopes of preventing an influx of repetitive Burnett threads for at least the next day or so. It didn't happen within the 24 hours Bruce mentioned, get over it.

I have to say, Charlie was an absolutely awesome flick. Although it wasn't as "creepy" as some of the critics would have liked you to believe, it was certainly werid and downright goofy. Although I haven't seen Wedding Crashers, I've heard nothing but GREAT things.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Jul 25, 2005 -> 08:32 AM) That's what I was saying. The thread title was inaccurate. Exactly, how is that? Bruce said he expected something to be done within the next 24 hours. Never, and I repeat, never, did I once imply if the deal wasn't done within the next 24 hours it wouldn't get done. Some of you folks b**** just for the sake of b****ing.