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I love it. Of course you made this poll kind of early. It's El Duque and Young. Not Garland.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 12:35 AM) I hope your right and keep Garland to be honest. I just get the feeling that he is going to get dealt, especially assuming this happens and we get Vasquez. The way Kenny talks about the pitching market, I think there is just about no chance we sign Garland after next year, and Kenny is a shrewd guy and knows he can get a lot for Jon if he trades him this offseason. Plus, the Buehrle/Count/Garcia/Vasquez/B Mac rotation is still one of the better ones in baseball. Just my opinion and speculation though, I've been plenty wrong before. As our current rotation stands, we have the best in the league. I strongly believe that.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 12:33 AM) I don't see that happening. McCarthy is ready to be in someone's rotation, not a long reliever. It doesn't matter if we think he's ready, I guarentee you he isn't dealt unless we totally rip off someone and I guarentee you he doesn't start.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 12:29 AM) Ya, with the Yanks (or did he not pitch when the Yanks were in the playoffs?) He pitched out of the bullpen for the Yankees. Kevin Brown started the game and got bombed against Boston. Then they brought in Javier Vazquez and several other guys who got bombed in that game. Coop will fix him.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 12:30 AM) So what the hell are we doing next now that we have 6 starters? Any ideas? Buehrle Garcia Contreras Garland Vazquez McCarthy McCarthy will probably be our LR or start in AAA(prolly long reliever) and Vizcaino won't be doing as much mopup duty.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 12:26 AM) I think this deal is a clear sign that Garland is going to get dealt. B Mac is READY to start, simple as that, and Garland would be gone after this year for nothing. Say we trade Duque and Young for Vasquez, then trade Garland. That leaves us with Buehrle, Contreras, Garcia, Vasquez, B Mac as the rotation next year. Not bad at all. Plus we might we something awfully sweet in a deal where we give up Garland, even if he's a rental pitcher (quality pitching ain't easy to find!) Just trust Kenny guys, he's not dumb. Garland might be dealt. I don't think so though. I think Kenny will just ride him out for the year and then let him or Contreras go at season's end, depending on who does the worse this upcoming year.

Well Kirk sucks when it comes to clutch free throws. I also don't understand why he would make the 2nd with less than 10 seconds left and no more timeouts.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 10:18 PM) I just don't like the deal at all. I am weary of trading Garland. Think about what happened to PK before last season. They had a deal but he declined because he wanted to test the free-agent waters. Nothing was said during the season. We win the WS and he re-signs without a hitch. Hopefully the case is the same with Garland. Um, The White Sox were the ones who wanted to wait for the offseason to resign PK. And if you don't call what just happened in the offseason prior to us resigning PK a hitch, then I don't know what your definition would be. People don't realize that the Angels were pretty close in getting PK. Garland is a pitcher. An average pitcher these days demands 10 million. Garland will surely get 12 million.

Guess what guys, I finished mine last week. And 1 of them sucked horribly.

QUOTE(3 BeWareTheNewSox 5 @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 08:48 PM) Well Riley, the jerk store called, and they're running out of you Why so much hate for Riley?

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 08:44 PM) I do not want Vazquez...thats what that means. Well you're not Kenny GM.

QUOTE(WSFAN35 @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 08:35 PM) If there is any validation to the rumors that Garland might be traded, the entire league would be making offers to get their hands on him. He's probably the best pitcher available via trade in a thin free agent market. Why would Kenny accept a Vazquez for Garland AND Young when he could get a much better deal elsewhere. I feel a package like Garland and Young could snag the equivalent of Vazquez, Tracy, and a prospect. Well the White Sox would have to get pitching for pitching. That eliminates more than half the teams in the league. Now he has to get a pitcher with upside or who he thinks would be great with Cooper. Now cut that number in half as well. Next he has to find someone who would give them flexibility. That leaves maybe 3 or 4 teams.

QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 08:26 PM) So the pitching staff gets older, more expensive, and worse? I think that's the reason for the 25 page thread. Vazquez is only 3 years older. Garland is very young, but Vazquez is entering his prime(or should be). With Coop, I think Vazquez will do things Garland could only dream of. And Garland will probably be more expensive than Vazquez and have a much longer deal which is why we would be dealing him.

SportsChannel was better!

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 07:45 PM) I would do the 3yr/$30M deal. What the hell is the difference? Oh would he not be able to feed his family. If i were him I would want to be in a place where I have a real chance to win a Championship. But you're not him. He's going to want more than 10 million.

Garland for Vazquez - Get It Done Kenny unless Garland resigns within the next day or two.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 05:49 PM) Is Steven Drew available? I think Conor Jackson is

Eric Moulds is probably going to be released from what I just heard on ESPN.

They'll probably have Aireese Currie on the roster. If they sign Peerless Price, I'd be shocked.

Can anyone give me info on Group D?

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 04:39 PM) That is even worse. That signals Frank to Minnesota or Frank to Cleveland.

If it's Garland for Javy straight up, I'd do it simply because of flexibility. If they want more thrown in on our part, they're on crack.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 12:28 AM) I try. I just don't see the connection. But whatever, It's cuz I'm bored out of my mind. Understandably so. Not much has happened in the past week.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Dec 12, 2005 -> 11:17 PM) Yes, I know, but he refers to McCarthy and Jenks...both of which came from the Sox minors. It just doesnt fit to me. If he wanted to talk about additions to the 2005 season, why didnt he mention AJ or Pods or Duke or Dye? That's nitpicking at its finest.

I haven't gotten any noticeable differences at all. Most of the time, however, I download the ISO file from a torrent and burn it straight to the DVD since it's way less of a hassle. Takes longer though.