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QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Dec 6, 2005 -> 09:21 PM) If Abreu were 25, then the trade would be far more intriguing as he'd be entering his prime and would likely not make a ton of money yet but age/cost prevent that. Plus, how bad would the Cubs look if Prior becomes the next ROger Clemens after they traded him? Would not be good ofr them You can't go into trades thinking what if the guy we trade turns out good. You have to think what if the guy who we get turns out good or not.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 6, 2005 -> 08:09 PM) The Cubs would be getting fleeced, imo. I don't think so. It would be pretty even. The problem with the Cubs is that they can't depend on their other starters so they have to keep whoever they have and hope they don't get hurt.

F'd up stuff. That's not too far from my house either. It's about a 10 minute drive down the same road.

What school do you go to Cerb?

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Dec 6, 2005 -> 08:12 AM) When called at his home to discuss Walker leaving his agency, Rosenhaus replied : "No Comment" When asked if he satisfied his wife last night, Rosenhaus quickly replied: "No Comment"

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 6, 2005 -> 12:20 PM) I would agree...but Abreu is not exactly "Cheap" either...and despite his first half last year, I'm not sure he's ever really put up the numbers to justify his contract...yeah he had a high OPS some years, but on average since 2001 it seems he comes out to around .900, and he's only hit 30 home runs 2 times in his career. Look at the SB's as well. He's a complete player. Prior for Abreu straight up would be fair.

QUOTE(Felix @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 11:23 AM) This is a non-issue to me, not sure why I would be concerned. Agreed.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 6, 2005 -> 12:14 PM) I don't see this as being not-thought-through. I think that for this to succeed, players and teams need to be pushed towards it. Otherwise, it would never happen. I have no doubt that MLB knew full well that some baseball execs would have objections. As I stated earlier, I think this is a great thing. If you want the phrase "World Champions" to mean something, then you have to try to head that direction. This is obviously only a small step, but it's going the right way. I don't know about that. Other countries are hyped up about this. I heard the Cubans wish they would field a team as well. Every other country is hyped up about this. In fact, everyone is hyped up on this minus American fans. Again, IMO, it's no different than playing Winter League or ST except it means more to the players. If you don't believe that, then there's something wrong with you.

Anyone have that flyind under the radar picture handy?

QUOTE(KevHead0881 @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 03:51 PM) If it happens in Spring Training, at least it happened on their watch. These guys are paid a s*** load of money by their organizations, and if one of them gets hurt performing an activity which they are not paid to do, the organization has the right to be pissed about it. Thats why you'll hear about clauses in contracts that give teams the ability to void contracts if they get hurt during extra-curricular activities (see Jay Williams and Kellen Winslow Jr.). Playing in these games is a definite risk for these players. And if one player who is an integral part of a major league roster gets hurt, expect a major backlash. How is it anymore of a risk than ST games? IIRC, Buehrle was hurt last ST shagging balls.

QUOTE(dmbjeff @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 02:54 PM) http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb...content=country first freddy, now buehrle......the wbc is just a bad idea....apparently if u play major league baseball and u have an italian last name, you get to play for the italian national team.....so stupid How is the WBC a bad idea? How is it any different then having a couple of all-star games or Winter League? It's not like these guys will be going 9 innings per outing and the only ones pitching. In fact, I will venture to say that the ones playing in the WBC have an advantage when it comes to the regular season since they'll have more of a rhythm while many are still trying to find their's. I think the WBC is a great idea. If the White Sox weren't coming off of a World Series, I bet there wouldn't be as many complainers. If an injury occurs, then an injury occurs. There's no way you can 100% prevent an injury. Whether someone is playing a game at the park with their kids or playing against a National team.

QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 10:23 PM) Sorry Ninetrain, no UIC. F this game. It doesn't deserve to be made. I'll happily be going with whatever baseball game is made that's not MVP 2006.

I think Price would be a good tag team with Mushin Muhammed. We didn't use Peerless at all in Dallas. I think if the Bears could get him, they'd look good.

QUOTE(WinninUgly @ Dec 5, 2005 -> 06:36 AM) Yeah, but there should be some type of MLB policy in place that prevents stuff like this from happening. The same thing goes for the Yankees and now the Mets outrageous contracts, that should be stopped as well. A team shouldn't have to sell off its high priced players every 3-5 years to stay competitive, or because they can't get a new stadium. The Marlins organization is doing this to completely justify their move. Unlike when the Browns just left CLE for BAL, the Marlins are making their fans leave before the team moves. In doing this, they are giving away some of their top players for prospects, which most people always say are just prospects until they do something. I know some of the deals had nice prospects, but the Marlins basically advertised that they having a firesale. This is just bad for baseball. I wouldn't be surprised if they break the record for the losses in a season. They are only keeping Willis and Cab, and how would you feel if you were one of those players. There is no way you can make this into a positive situation except for the teams that are getting proven Major Leaguers for prospects. Just my 2 cents. Check this thread out: http://www.marlinbaseball.com/forums/index...showtopic=54110 If fans don't come out, then the team doesn't gain revenue. If the team doesn't gain revenue, they can't play their players. The Marlins pretty much went for it last year(WS and trying to get the fans to come out for a marquee player in Delgado) and they still wouldn't come out. With contracts increasing in price, you can't continue to pay with no revenue. That's why they're doing this.

Where's the no one option?

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 03:29 PM) Shut Up! All of you blind Grossman supporters should realize that he isn't even healthy enough to start. You want Jeff Blake over Orton? Because Grossman coming in right now isn't even a f***ing valid option. Grossman is healthy enough to be a 3rd String QB that is it. Actually if I were a Bears fan, I would take Blake over Orton.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 03:28 PM) Because thats all they ever do. How many high picks have we wasted in the last 10 years trying to draft the next Walter Payton? I think the Bears will draft a WR (the wrong one; e.g. Dez White) or probably trade down for multiple picks. It's the Jerry Angelo school of thinking.

QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 02:29 PM) USC has the best overall QB, RB and WR. A solid D and the better O-line. Reggie Bush is too hard to stop. I'd agree with RB and WR, don't know about QB.

USC will win, but I want Texas to win. I say USC comes out on all cylinders and Texas comes out flat which will ultimately be their downfall. It will be a game similar to the one Illinois played against LSU a few years back.

QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 4, 2005 -> 01:47 PM) I always remembered hearing that ARod was upset with the way the White Sox wanted to handle his negotiations, so they were basically ruled out from the start. Not true. White Sox were supposedly finalists for the A-Rod sweepstakes coming behind Texas. Boras was the one who wasn't happy with the way the White Sox wanted to negotiate which basically was to sit down with A-Rod alone, face-to-face.

We don't know how Iguchi looks when swinging the bat freely. He's basically an uncertainty if you put him in the 3 hole. You can't risk experimenting with such an important spot in the lineup. And I'd say Thome is a nice true #3 hitter. Dye is too with the proper protection.

Um, why in the world would Billy Beane trade for a guy who's going to leave next year? They might as well keep Zito who is the better pitcher if they're going to keep guys on 1 year deals. Garland's not going anywhere unless Boston offers us Ortiz, Ramirez, and there 2 best pitching prospects.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 11:38 PM) Good. Something to slow the improvement of the Cards down. The Cubs should be happy...K Wood and AJ Burnett could compete for "Most games spent on the DL" in that division. Tommy John award for simulated game pitchers. I like it. Beckett will win it in the AL and Burnett and Wood would battle it out for the NL crown.

for a 4 year deal. I didn't hear any of the financial terms. That rotation is going to be pretty good if they have him, even without Morris.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 11:25 PM) If 3 of the final 4 teams don't involve the U.S., Venezuela, and the Dominican Republic...something will have gone horribly wrong with the world. Like Gagne with an 8 inning save or something like that. Japan, Korea, and Mexico could possibly compete with them, but come on...Pujols, Tejada, Pedro, and Ortiz on the same team? Texiera, Bonds, Clemens and Prior? Santana, Abreu and Ordonez? Small Notes - ARod won't compete with the U.S...probably Puerto Rico I think A-Rod has to play for the U.S. He made a big thing about wanting to play for DR or whatever, but Selig said he's going to play where he's placed which will be USA.