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Cubs could pick him up. If he signed with the Marlins, it's probably because he's friends with Jason Riedling.

QUOTE(wilmot825 @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 01:09 PM) All the talk is about Chavez for Crede and BMac. I do not know why the Sox are considering trading BMac because he is the future SP in the rotation. Chavez is batting a .218 with 4 hrs this year, Crede is struggling but not that bad. When the Sox make the playoff push they will need to beef up that bullpen. Cotts, Vizciano, and Shingo are doing bad this year; so the Sox should try to get Danys Baez. He is a stud out of the pen and if he does not work then how about, Brandon Lyon from ARI. Think about it, good pen can get you far, and by the way Crede has amazing defense. For a better chance at a World Series. Duh. You are not going to get Lyon from ARI, so throw that out the window. Baez is an expensive reliever. BMac isn't going to lead us anywhere in the postseason this year. That's my opinion on it. When you have a year like the White Sox are having and you just need a couple of pieces, I think you have to put almost all your fruits in this basket and go for it. I'm not saying we should trade the whole farm, but if BMac gets us a superstar player, I would do it. We still have guys like Gio Gonzalez.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 02:45 AM) There's another reason I don't want Williams to approve any trade involving McCarthy, and the (probable) transfer of a high percentage of Chavez's contract: we're providing Beane with more financial wiggle room over these next 6 years. I don't want Oakland to take our prospects, in addition to spending availalbe money on acquiring necessary components for their club. I enjoy watching this Oakland team collapse. What harm would be done if every general manager just ignored Beane? Didn't take his phone calls; looked the other way when he attempted to unload unwanted contracts. Let him draft his way back to contention. Just let Chavez continue to question the foundation of "moneyball" (aka mulder+hudsonball), and otherwise dissolve the sentiment among management and Chavez. Should make the next 6 years VERY interesting in Oakland. If it gives my team a better chance of winning, I'll do it. I think Chavez gives us a better chance of winning this year(not just the division, but the World Series) and even though he has a BA of around .280, with his power numbers and his defense, he'll be going in the HOF with a Sox uni unless he were to leave.

QUOTE(Allsox @ Jun 3, 2005 -> 10:20 AM) Watch out with that bullpen comment! If Jeff Brantley saw that, he wouldn't stop writing to you about Hermanson being better than Timo And there's no room for Wilson here unless KW's able to con the Rockies into taking Dye AND Timo (Which at that point, he should win AL Exec of the yr right on the spot!) That's too much for Wilson. Timo has to stay out of the deal. First bench player to win MVP ever. KW will be AL Worst Exec of the year if he included Timo.

QUOTE(ScottPodRulez22 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 09:57 PM) and there is no game to watch Chicago Bandits, Baby!

Don't see it being Timo. It shouldn't be Ozuna, but it probably will be. Then again, Ozzie may find no need for Gload with Timo playing 1st.

QUOTE(ptatc @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 09:50 PM) I truly think Ozzie has been experimenting to see who to keep on the roster for the rest of the year? He used walker in a pressure situation against lefties to see if he could handle it. Did he do it? No, go to Charlotte we need the roster spot. Why else would that be the only time he has done it. Next try, can Perez handle first. Did Ok on some, screwed up others. Is he worth the spot. Someone will need to go soon, either in a trade, release or sent down. Ozzie is helping KW decide what they need for the long haul of the season. At least this is what I hope he has been doing with the bizzare moves. He may be a hothead but I don't think he is stupid. That move reeked Jerry Manuel when he decided to pitch Cotts in Yankee Stadium instead of Buehrle. That's all I thought about that Kevin Walker move.

Someone in my league dropped Clint Barmes.

QUOTE(quickman @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 09:42 PM) Nitetrain, I have been so angry with ozzie all day that its possible I am not seeing things through my anger. Now I know Ozzie makes the decisions but he has other coaches he relies on, should we assume they are just as guilty? What the hell are they doing on that bench. harold might need to shake up ozzie a bit. Same with Cooper, I clearly suspect this guy is making some of the decisions or at least being asked for his opinion. Maybe we really miss Joe Nossak. I would imagine that Nossak demands respect when he spoke. That too. Harold Baines is sleeping half the time. Cooper doesn't strike me as a guy who own up to anything. I do miss Joe Nossek. I wish he was still here. Then again, he'd probably be smacking Ozzie upside the head for thinking about doing some of the really terrible moves he does.

Robinson improved on his route running and actually turned it into a strength. Problem was he couldn't catch. Maybe he should get the contacts the Texans got for Andre Johnson that improved his hands drastically.

I watched the game. Australia is supposed to be a damn good team and Jennie Finch pitched a 2 hitter against them(a hit in the 6th and another in the 7th, right through her legs). It was pretty decent. Looks like they had a nice crowd too. I'm glad to see them getting support. Jennie did come out of her way to sign with Chicago.

QUOTE(thelatinoheat_30 @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 09:27 PM) First off, Brantley had a point. Even from last year, I knew Ozzie was one of the worst strategic managers in all of baseball. I hoped it'd get better w/ more experience but obviously not. Ozzie is lucky he didn't get ripped MORE for leaving buerhle in the 8th, no less the 9th. I don't care how little pitches he threw. Marte and Hermanson have been severely underused, leading to their recent subpar performances. Brantley is right on and should be commended. Also, today on ESPNews he(Brantley) said if he could pick any staff to have, he'd pick the twins, pen and starters. Also right there. He also managed to sneak in a comment, saying he might take the sox staff, but he jsut doesn't think the staff is being managed properly. I'll take it a step further. Ozzie cannot manage the TEAM properly, as shown by starting timo at first for the first time in 6 years just to give paul a day off, A DAY BEFORE AN OFF-DAY, that's just plain stupid. he coulda at least used the excuse of trying to keep timo sharp, but he wanted paul to relax. cost us 2 runs w/ that error. there should be more analyts criticizing ozzie's lack of smarts. before ozzie makes decisions based on his "gut feeling", he should use the bathroom to make sure he doesn't confuse these "gut feelings" w/ something else. p.s. i do agree w/ ozzie's using of walker cause he has to use em eventually and he was decent b4 it, so i do have some support for him. I agree. I'll say this. Ozzie is one hell of a motivator and player person. I think he would make a better bench coach though. He's been making bad decisions for some time. 3 pitchers in one inning(Marte, Politte, Cotts) in the 3rd game of the year with a 3 run lead.

I honestly think Ozzie did wrong with the Brantley situation. Brantley said nothing different than what most White Sox fans were thinking. If the Sox start losing alot, Ozzie's going to lose the protection he has from the media. I hate to agree with Jay Mariotti, but his mouth is going to get him in trouble. I mean even Doug Padilla confirmed that he says a lot of things he shouldn't be saying and he's lucky most guys don't print them. The Maggs' thing he gets a pass on IMO because it was a player who flat out attacked him first. Brantley was just doing his job by second guessing him as many Sox fans were.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 01:06 PM) What skiles wants is a bargain considering what some othe coaches around the look has gotten. The bulls will resign him sooner or later. Actually Skiles would be getting paid as an upper echelon coach with the offer the Bulls are giving. I think only 4 guys would be making more than him. Hell, Phil Jackson when he got his deal with the Lakers signed a 4 year 20 million dollar deal. Skiles wants that. Skiles

QUOTE(farmteam @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 03:46 PM) The Indoor soccer team is the Chicago Storm, not Chicago Thunder, just FYI. Also, WNBA has always been meh to me, but women's soccer and/or volley can pique my interest occasionally. I knew it had to be something similar. I could also understand if you(not talking to you directly farm) don't like the WNBA, but to say Woman's sports don't matter or is boring is just dumb. I consider women's volleyball to be better than men's. I also consider women's tennis to be much better. WNBA has some of my interest and I like baseball/softball, so naturally I would go see the Bandits(again, they're pretty far though, so I might be going to 1 game if I'm lucky).

QUOTE(Palehosefan @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 02:57 PM) If the Astros start off with that talk, the conversation will end quick. No way would I give up Tex or Hank for Roger Clemens. Those are two cornerstone players and are worth more than Clemens for a year. They have Texieria who's natural position is 3rd if Blalock is traded and supposedly a really great prospect at 1B.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 06:17 PM) Ramon Hernandez is the Padres' catcher (he used to be on the A's, they either traded for him or picked him up via free agency). The D-Backs also have Kelly Stinnett as their veteran catcher, I think. And I doubt they even have money to spend after what they did in the offseason. I don't think Kendall is going anywhere. Traded him for Mark Kotsay even though he was an All-Star with the A's.

Question is for this year(which KW is going for) is Crede & B-Mac better than Chavez. It's questionable. Who comes up to pitch for El Duque on his next breaks??

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 11:41 PM) They got Paul LoDuca and Mota at the end of it right? and a decent player in Juan Encarnacion.

QUOTE(sayitanitso @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 10:59 PM) The pro volleyball team was the Chicago Thunder and they aren't playing anymore to my knowledge So the soccer team took their name huh? Anyway, I would go to a WNBA game because 1)I'm supportive of Chicago sports 2)They're playing their home games at my school 3)It's something to do when I have downtime 4)Cheap tickets Just because it's a woman's sport doesn't mean it isn't good.

QUOTE(nvxplorer @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 12:26 AM) Yes, Ozzie may seem to overuse the strategy at times, but he's certainly not the only manager to do so. I just think it's unfair to blame every pitfall on Ozzie's use of matchups. I'm sure he does it more than some, and I know he does it less than others (watch Felipe Alou manage a close game if you get a chance). Thanks for clearing it up, though. I've seen this assertion made by many, and it's to the point of becoming cliche, not to mention innaccurate. Difference is that Ozzie at least has some people who could get the job done(Hermy, Marte, Politte) and SF and the Cubs have no one and are looking for bullpen guys.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 2, 2005 -> 12:11 AM) Problem is, these reporters are asking Ozzie the questions we want to hear. We want to know why he took out McCarthy. We want to know why he played Timo at 1b, pitched Walker, etc. I probably would have never started this thread if not for the way the Cubs and Dusty have acted the previous few seasons. Ozzie should be a media darling with his enthusiasm and our record. Since he's the one that tells our players to go out and get drunk....maybe he should just relax a little and not take comments so seriously. I agree. He's very hard-headed. It's not like they're saying, "Ozzie what a stupid f***ing decision!" they are simply asking what he was thinking in that instance that made him put player X instead of player Y. I've usually defended Ozzie, but he does act like a total jackass to the media when he doesn't have to. I hate to see what happens if we start losing. He will no longer get the protection from the media he does. Plain and simple, Ozzie acts like a total jag when he doesn't have to. This was totally inexcusable on his part. Was Brantley doing anything other than his job? I remember him praising Ozzie and his style a couple of times too. Brantley was simply analyzing which is what ESPN hired him to do. I didn't agree with Ozzie's moves and wanted to hear why he made some of the decisions he made on Monday. Just because analyzers are doing their job and asking you questions, doesn't mean you have to act like an asshole. Fact is, Ozzie rather have a total jag moment instead of admitting he was wrong or being a bigger man in this case and accepting the apology.

I would like Mike Gonzalez, but I don't think he'll be available. Billy Wagner will forever get my vote.

I think there is already a badminton team. Anyway, Chicago is a huge market. It's only natural to start up a franchise in a big city like Chicago. I would go to Bandits games if they were played closer. Hopefully they draw good. It's smart. I'll probably check out the WNBA team a couple of times. Don't forget the Chicago Thunder, the Rush 2 or 3 years ago and the pro volleyball team that was playing at St. Xavier(don't know if they're still playing).

QUOTE(TheBlackSox8 @ Jun 1, 2005 -> 08:39 PM) LMAO.....Hawkins gave up a grand slam to utley to lose the game for the giants....he continues to choke Prior to that he was pretty good.