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If this was my team, all of them are touchable for the right price. The least guy I want to trade is Gio Gonzalez. He'll be better than BMac IMO.

QUOTE(Wong & Owens @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 01:38 PM) I can't read minds, but I think he's referring to the continued makeover of the Bridgeport neighborhood, as well as the neighborhood directly across the Ryan. Once those projects are gone, and replaced with a more affulent populace(and it will) and some bars/restaurants, the area will be much better than Addison. He's absolutely right though, in that if the Sox's stadium was in any west/southwest suburb, they'd draw much better than they currently do. Yep. Hopefully it bolds true. I know I'm going to stay a southsider my whole life(not in Beverly, but probably around Bridgeport/South Loop/Pilsen/Hyde Park).

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 01:23 PM) So much for Thomas' lack of lateral movement preventing him from playing 1B. Guillen: "If we play him in the field, it's because we need him. I think Frank is willing to do what we think is good for the team. He knows what we want to do here. It's all about winning. I don't want him to sit for six days. That's why it's hard for us to play in the National League.'' It certainly sounds to me that if Koney is 0-2 in a game Guillen will not hesitate to replace him with Frank. I would like to see it. It's better than trotting Timo out there at 1B.

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QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 01:09 PM) I've talked to some pretty hardcore Red Sox fans in the past 20 minutes, and they say that he's tradeable for a good deal (something that doesn't involve rentals). Which means BMac.

QUOTE(sox-r-us @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 12:49 PM) Those #s are sad. I would say so. I mean Sunday was beautiful. Saturday, I say there should've been 30,000(I wasn't expecting 40 because I know some people thought it was going to rain hard) and 30,000 on Friday.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 07:45 AM) Its hilarious to hear you say that about Griffey, but when it comes to Thomas who is 37 and has suffered 2 season ending injuries in 5 years, you totally block that out as a possibility Very True. And also again DBah0, Reds would do this for money.

Just asking, but does anyone know what Willie did last year that was so bad?

Couple of things: 1)Steff, I agree with you. I see MB being more like the leader of this team, but PK is usually the one talking to anyone who listens. To me, being a leader means you're a pretty productive player every time out and that every player respects you on the team and will do as you ask. I don't see PK having that at least with Frank. 2)Hanley Ramirez is as untradeable as they're going to come in Boston. 3)Chavez won't be traded. Maybe we could trade BMac for everyday Eddie and non-roider Bret Boone

Too bad Count has been plagued with bad run support. He definately should be considered for the ASG. He's pitched really nice this year. Isn't he top 5 in ERA for starting pitcher in the AL?? I also am one who can't believe people wanted Contreras in the pen to make room for BMac.

QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 09:42 AM) everyday eddie please. if i recall, the sox were one of the finalists for him last year before the m's snatched him I never heard about that. He definately would be nice though.

Unless Mota wanted to set up which he doesn't, it's not a good move. I'm a big fan of Mota, but I don't see him coming here. He's not significantly better than Hermy to close over him.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 12:30 PM) Where does he mention his "pull ball" philosphy? I never saw anything where he says I want guys pulling the ball? Joke attempt by Jabroni.

QUOTE(retro1983hat @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 10:30 AM) That is not a good arguement. More fans in the park = more $ the club can spend on payroll. Personally, I love going to a game when I know it's going to be packed. Besides, even though they are professional and get paid for it, players want a full house as well. Do you think they get up the same for an April afternoon game against the Royals when there might be 6000 fans there vs. a packed house against the Twins, Cubs, Red Sox, Yanks? I'm not complaining about attendance, but the atmosphere in the park does affect the players. I'm the same way. I think it gives the players more energy and better energy. Why do you think the players get up more for Twins, Cubs, Yanks, Red Sox?? Probably because they know it'll be a sellout crowd and the players do draw energy from that. Gives them that extra "uump" in their swing and pitches. Just like at basketball games. If you're playing in front of a sellout crowd, it gives you more energy and it seems like you can't get tired. I love packed houses. I don't like hearing myself when cheering on a HR.

QUOTE(Steff @ Jun 6, 2005 -> 04:39 AM) Ask Metra.. it's got nothing to do with the Sox. Yeah, and the Metra is government owned. They lose tons of money each year, so I doubt you'll see that stop. Plus you may be able to take it to games, but you won't be able to take it back if there's extra innings or the game ends at 10:30 unless you want to run your ass over there or you have a monthly ticket. Anyway, Metra most likely won't spend their own money(the government's/taxpayers if you want to be technical about it) to put another stop. That means they would also have to play employees more for service.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 5, 2005 -> 06:52 PM) I'm just hoping that if they are waiting until Gload can play the outfield, that means that Timo will be getting his ticket to Charlotte or somewhere else. With Gload being a lefty bat and having the ability to play a corner outfield spot, what would be the point of keeping Timo? Oh yeah, Ozzie needs a fluffer in the dugout. By the way, why the hell is Gload's shoulder still sore? He has been playing for Charlotte for 2 weeks. If his shoulder is that bad, why didn't he just not play in Charlotte and rest it for those 2 weeks? Makes too much sense, therefore Ozzie won't make that move.

QUOTE(doUrememberwhen @ Jun 5, 2005 -> 10:52 PM) WSI DOES BLOW BALLS Yeah, I got kicked off that s***ty site for literally no reason. I wasn't given a reason why and when I tried to email Daver(who's supposed to be in charge there) the email address given didn't exist. So I said f*** it and started coming here. People here are more realistic. Also, I didn't see as much "Change the stripes(and stadium) to green" threads.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jun 5, 2005 -> 10:49 PM) The what are we gonna spend all of this on? Shingo = 2.525 million. Konerko = 8.75 million. Everett = 4 million. Ben davis is one million. Walker is 525,000k. Ozzie's slurrrrrrrrrping mate should be back. Thomas may or may not be back. if he does i cannot see it being for anything more than five million ( the 3.5 million buy out that he will recieve either way plus an additional 1.5). Then you add up the additional money that the sox have been upping the pay roll every year. Salary increases... garland, pierz, crede ( :headshake ). We will still have a good amount left over after buehrle, garcia, and a few others that have any significantincrease in pay go up. Ask K-Dub.

QUOTE(doUrememberwhen @ Jun 5, 2005 -> 10:47 PM) by the way how can u like Crede n not Ross? Both r unproven, but at least Ross can use the excuse that he hasn't had pt. For the same reason I like Jamal Crawford, both are really really cool guys. I suppose I'd like Ross if some people wouldn't overrate him so much(I blame WSI for that).

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 5, 2005 -> 10:39 PM) Scott Hatteberg J.T. Snow Konerko isn't worth $9 million a year. I would just sign a cheap, slick-fielding 1st baseman that can hit for a decent average and get on base at a good clip. Both sound like Ross Gload with playing time. And I don't even like Ross.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 5, 2005 -> 10:30 PM) I'd rather let Konerko leave via free agency and spend his $9 million on someone else. I still wouldn't want to add Griffey's contract. I would too, but there aren't any better 1B out there than PK sadly. There are decent options at 3rd but nothing above and beyond Crede IMO, and none that are going to make you spend a sig amount of cash and I don't foresee the Sox adding an Armando Benitez contract for a reliever, but something like 4 or 5 mil at the most) so X that out.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 5, 2005 -> 10:25 PM) I wouldn't do either deal then. I wouldn't trade Konerko for Griffey because of his contract and I wouldn't trade Everett, Anderson, McCarthy, and Crede for Chavez. Pk is hitting worse and his contract with the money getting thrown in is no worse than PK will be getting.

QUOTE(Dam8610 @ Jun 5, 2005 -> 10:09 PM) Could we get Kyle Davies for Everett? That's overpaying. Braves definately would throw in John Smoltz

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jun 5, 2005 -> 10:09 PM) Ok I'm only going to ask this once. Would you prefer to see the payroll increase next season go towards Ken Griffey Jr. or Eric Chavez? Or if we don't get Chavez, let Konerko go. Get J.T Snow to platoon with Ross Gload until Casey Rogowski or Josh Fields are ready. Use the $10 million we'd still have, to get some more good bullpen arms, an upgrade at third base, and to resign Frank and the usual upgrades etc. Chavez, but let's put it this way. Who would you rather trade? PK for Griffey or Everett, Anderson and BMac(probably also Crede) for Chavez?

QUOTE(Dam8610 @ Jun 5, 2005 -> 09:35 PM) Damnit! Not that I thought there was a chnce of that, just that Jake Peavy is an awesome pitcher, and he's only 23. I'd love to see him on the south side, but I know it's not going to happen. He would be a luxury, but not necessarily a need. Our pitching staff is good enough, at least starting 5 wise. Bullpen could use some help. Anyone know if Phillies need an OF? We could swap Everett for Wagner. Then again, Philly is still in it.