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Best thing is, EA Sports got the ESPN licensing, so they'll have the ESPN presentation like in the 2K games. So ESPN Presentation with EA Gameplay. Can't get no better than that.

Wouldn't suprise me if they lose tommorow, again.

Just win Yankees. OMG, I'm rooting for the Skank-ees. Never thought I would be.

I would say it is more the hitters underachieving on that team. But they've been good the past few games. That would be awesome if the White Sox were to pick him up and drop Walker.

QUOTE(trexer @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 09:02 PM) Trade for Randa instead. He's a much better 3B than either Crede or Chavez. Randa>Chavez? Wow.

I wonder if Jeff Brantley or someone else called out Ozzie for this, how many would come to his defense, even though most people feel Willie should be up here and not Timo(and I'm a Timo fan).

I'm happy Crede got another HR today. *Claps*. Hopefully we could get some more clutch hits from him.

Willie is one of our best hitters(I know I'm shocked too) this season and he's being demoted. Wow, Ozzie = not so smart. Again, he gives me more fire for my theory on him making a better 3b coach or bench coach than manager.

QUOTE(rafacosta @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 07:33 PM) Frank using high socks? That would be strange... He would look stupendous.

Yeah, I'm not dissing it. I love it. I wish more players did it. That would be awesome if our whole team did it.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 03:24 PM) Haha, did you just grab 'Roc' from the FOX broadcast? Yep, I like it much better than ARow. The guy does look like a boulder. Roc is soo much shorter though.

Roc has started to wear them and now all of a sudden, Crede has too. So what's up with that?

Yeah, I put the blame on EA, but it still doesn't change the fact that 2K sucks. I guess they didn't like having to lower the prices for games, so they thought they could monopolize(they were going to try to get every major sports game I believe) and eliminate competition that way. They were way wrong and it blew up in their face.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 03:06 PM) I went to school at De. IIT seems like the most boring college campus ever. It seems that way with me, but their student activities center is awesome. Plus being inbetween Soldier Field and The Cell seems like a great spot. I do agree though, it does look boring there.

JimH and Juggernaut, I applaud you because you kept the thread about what it's supposed to be about. Why and what can be done about it? A+ Posts. Now jugger, what about the UIC campus and the high schools closer to the Cell. I went to St. Ignatius and 1/2th the people were Sox fans, but only about 1/4 of that actually go(the people who actually live in Bridgeport. I mean, Wrigley certainly has alot of colleges around it, but the Cell has UIC and the University of Chicago closer to it and IIT.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 01:05 PM) Actually if anyone kept watching Brantley had an excellent breakdown on release point, arm slot, injury, and movement. Yep, it was actually pretty interesting.

QUOTE(Be Good @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 11:33 AM) Supposedly, Hermy told Ozzie he couldn't pitch. So its not fair to rip him on that. I thought they said he was talking about Hermy saying that Frank couldn't go back in the game.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 10:23 AM) Why? Thanks? I agreed with everything you said.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 09:58 AM) So, what happens with the MVP MLB engine? Is that done with? Do I seriously have to go out and buy 2005 just because there won't be a similar 2006? This effing sucks. It'll be in the NCAA game. I won't buy 2K. I always wanted to play a college baseball game.

QUOTE(Yossarian @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 09:42 AM) Attendance just isn't quite where it should be, taking everything into consideration. Nobody expects the Sox to match the cubs right now. At the end of the year I'll reevaluate. In the meantime I make my first visit to Chicago and the old ball yard since 2001 during the week of July 4. The mighty Devil Rays are in town. Maybe I'll see one or more of you. I may even pop for a beer. Exactly, attendance should be higher considering we're the first place team in baseball. QUOTE(BigNDfan80 @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 09:58 AM) What's even scarier about Friday's attendance.....There were A LOT of Indian fans there. I even decided to not take off my light coat so Indian fans wouldn't heckle me at Jacob's Field West.

QUOTE(SHAFTR @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 02:16 AM) I like Podsednik Iguchi Thomas Konerko Rowand Dye Pierzynski Crede Uribe Thomas should be 3rd b/c of his high OBP. Also, I really like this idea of Dye learning to play 1st for next year. I don't like this lineup. Thomas and Konerko = GDP record. I like ARow at the 4, but I could see why he would be a 3. Konerko should be behind Dye right now.

Yep, it's sleepytime.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 01:31 AM) And I've yet to hear a good way of improving it from ANYBODY. Personally, I don't even have any clue why attendance is the problem that it is to begin with. I have no idea why fans aren't coming. Which is the mission sox-r-us is on to find out.

QUOTE(3 BeWareTheNewSox 5 @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 01:28 AM) Well then I'd have to disagree with you. Supporting the team is one thing, buy it doesn't mean you have to go to the park. I don't think a fan that has season tickets can be labeled a better fan than the one who goes to 2 games a year because of financial reasons. And as far as homefield advantage in baseball, that would be what the Twins have, being used to playing in a dome or on their turf or whatever or taking away opposing teams hot water, stuff like that. The rest is all mental which shouldn't matter if home or away if you're a professional baseball player, imo. It shouldn't matter just like a reliever shouldn't have to have a special mentality to close out games or a basketball player shouldn't feel any more pressure in a 1 point deficit with 3 seconds left and the ball in his hands than the middle of the 2nd quarter. . Fact is it does matter for whatever reasons. QUOTE(nvxplorer @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 01:28 AM) I agree with you completely about Chicago fans. Chicago is a die-hard sports town. Always has been, always will be. Living out west myself, I only have the media to rely on, but as far as attending Cubs games, I read that a lot of people are there for reasons other than being a hard core fan. Maybe it's true, maybe it isn't, but the neighborhood, the bars, etc., etc., all seem to suggest this is true. While I remember Bears home games being blacked out years ago (many, many years ago), the baseball games have always been broadcast on TV (RIP, Harry). I don't know, but maybe in this day and age, the ballpark itself is a big factor. I can't comment on the Cell as I've never seen it, but is it possible that the park isn't a big enough attraction? Just hypothesizing here, but what if JR built the new park on the lakefront, similar to the Giants' SBC Park, for example? With the games available on cable, local TV, the internet, the proliferation of sports bars; do you think this provides a disincentive to see the games live? I guess I could look it up on the Sox website, but since I'm posting, I'll ask you guys. What do seats cost nowadays? Are they overpriced? I haven't lived in Chicago since '77, but IIRC, tickets were only $5 that year. Back then, that was less than one hour's wages, on the average. http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/04003995...7&minorcatid=10

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Jun 4, 2005 -> 01:27 AM) It helps because it's more logical than just saying our attendance sucks. It helps because sound arguments are presented as opposed to complaining about attendance. There is less tension on the board. Complaining about attendance when you live far away almost sounds like a personal attack on Sox fans who live here. It sometimes (not always) comes off as saying "Why aren't you doing your part?" Most of us on here do do our part. We had the same discussion on a DePaul message board. We came up with ideas and sent it to the school. There was far less bickering. Yeah, no one came out and just said the attendance sucks. sox-r-us was trying to have a discussion about why it sucks and what will improve it because so far, everybody who said, "wait til june" was wrong.