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QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ May 10, 2005 -> 09:30 PM) Shingo needs to get more work in. He should've pitched in one of the games against Toronto. This is a pattern. The game against Detroit was the exact same thing. He had 5 days off. He needs to be pitching more. Remember before everyone says we should release him he has brought ERA down from 13 to 6 in 2 weeks. He has pitched well lately and he should get another shot. I agree. He doesn't get in when he should(should've gotten in on that rout on saturday). Shingo needs work at least every other day for him to warm up. Put him in the minors if need be so he could pitch everyday and get his confidence back. But don't bench him for a week, then expect him to turn it on again.

QUOTE(WilliamTell @ May 10, 2005 -> 09:30 PM) Yeah so I forgot about it, oh well. But we don't really need to be talking about the best starts anymore. I hate having a 2 game losing streak or even longer ones. Seriously, can this thread be deleted.

QUOTE(qwerty @ May 10, 2005 -> 09:28 PM) Not giving runs up while issuing walks will only last so long. He hasn't had any really bg inning but if he keeps allowing walks at this rate the big innings will come sooner rather than later. Walking players doesn't automatically lose you the game but it makes the chance of losing that much greater. How many games has he lost by doing so so far?? 1. I'd take 1 out of every 6 starts any day of the week.

QUOTE(JimH @ May 10, 2005 -> 09:27 PM) Don't be surprised if they DL him. And then who? Bajenaru I guess. the immortal kevin walker!!

QUOTE(C_LEE45 @ May 10, 2005 -> 09:16 PM) WALKS, ya conteras walks to many 1 hit in an inning and got 3 runs cause he WALKS to many,and you should try to trade conteras while you can get something for him,and Shingo theres alot of people that would trade good players for him,cubs,giants,cardinals,just some teams,even if we do only get prospects then we can trade them to get a good hitter!!!!!! I'm sorry, but you don't lose games by how many walks that have been given up in the game. You lose games by giving up runs. It's a proven fact. Look at the mlb.com. It'll say Runs in bold and the team with the lower amount loses. Contreras while walking people has gotten out of his jams for the most pasr this year(again, other than today). You're not going to get that out of anyone else you're going to be able to trade for. McCarthy is fairing no better with his walks in AAA.

LaTroy>Shingo. I rather have a guy who was proven for more than 1 year and entered CubDom than have the one summer wonder in Shingo. Shingo doesn't pitch his changeup over the plate which is stupid and leaves his fastball right there for everyone to take out of the park. With a frisbee like he has, he needs to challenge the hitters.

QUOTE(C_LEE45 @ May 10, 2005 -> 08:57 PM) JR this team is in good shape NOw lets not let this get away go out and get us a BIG BAT NOW,iam tired of the so so player like J Dye ,Crazy Carl go out and get a SUPERSTAR hitter, like Abreu,Aubrey Huff or even Carl Crawford.Also i HOPE we seen the last of dingo Takatsu and iam ready for Mcarthy too, so its time KW tobring Mcarthy up and trade Dingo and conteras for a hitter What is wrong with Contreras other than tonight? Yes, he walks alot, but other than tonight he's actually pitched better than expected. He's given up 2-3 runs each game which should be a quality start. He's not the reason we're losing. He's kept us in every game which is way more than any Sox fan expected at the beginning of the season. You keep Contreras. McCarthy isn't ready. Yes, he's leading AAA in K's(I heard that somewhere) but he's giving up alot of walks.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ May 10, 2005 -> 08:58 PM) Its kind of ironic that Konerko has a long looping swing where his hands are up around his head. And now Dye who was a great fastball hitter last year, has a nice long looping swing where his hands are high up. They kind of remind me of Crede and Borchard last year both with long looping swings. This pull baseball crap is getting old. Line drive swings are fine. Line drive swings dont slump as much. I find it ironic that Konerko changed his swing for more power in his contract year. Too bad Ross Gload is hurt or we could start benching these guys. Bring up Anderson to play RF and bench Dye. Bring up McCarthy and pull Contreras into the bullpen so he can walk people in mop up games. Release Shingo. We dont need to stick with another Koch/Jackson because he will get it. We pitched Jackson last year into August. Contreras, with the exception of tonight, has been better than we thought he would be. We thought one game he'd give up 0 and the next game give up 8. He's been pretty consistant and given up 2-3 runs every game. All we expected was .500 at best for him. If the team's offense actually came through of early innings and the bullpen actually kept his leads, he would have about 4 wins.

QUOTE(rangercal @ May 10, 2005 -> 08:56 PM) 6 runs is not enough for tampa? Blame the offense on a lot. But today was not the offene's fault. The bullpen and starting pitching (in that order) are to blame. Would've given us a better chance. I still think Shingo needs to go. Our 4-5-6 hitters don't deserve the PT right now. I'm a big fan of Dye and I like Rowand, but the fact that they are sucking so bad makes me want to write KW a petition to send them all to AAA. PK has proven thus far that he cannot carry an offense. I'm not only talking this year, but in year's past. He is no better than a #5 hitter.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ May 10, 2005 -> 08:47 PM) No, are 3-4-5 hitters have cost us 1/3, if not more of these games. I am getting sick of seeing Konerko, Rowand, and Dye look like s*** at the dish. "There going to get hot" is getting old, quick. I strongly agree. This is getting old. They were playing in a relatively warm dome. Where's the offense there? That excuse of just wait until the weather warms is getting really really old. They are clearly not getting better as the season progresses. It's a joke that people actually wanted Rowand to bat at the 3 spot. I'd hate to see our record if he were to bat there.

QUOTE(Cy Garland @ May 10, 2005 -> 08:43 PM) Shingo >>>> Latroy I think not. Shingo as a closer

Trade Byung-Yung to the Flubs. We could sucker them. I honestly rather have Hawkins because Ozzie wouldn't use him in closer situations. KW would fire him on the spot if he did that. Sucker the Flubs.

What?? I love Byung-Yung Kim, I mean Shingo.

QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ May 10, 2005 -> 08:36 PM) The Twins have a better pitching staff for the simple reason of Joe Nathan while we have Shingo, I am staring to think by the end of May we are 2-3 behind the Twinkies. Sadly, I feel the same way. This is a series that should've been a cakewalk. Ozzie sucks at tie ballgame situations. You bring in your stoppers(politte, marte, and hermanson) during the tie ballgame. Right now Shingo is looking like Byung yung Kim.

Sox lose the series.

He K's him. Please Shingo, go 1-2-3.

Viz again. I like the guy, but damn. Ozzie wants to lose the game.

Look for their to be an empty stadium. Eh well, at least we got the Cub fans money. Hopefully there's a decent walkup so we could register a sellout.

I have a feeling we're going to lose this game. Our offense usually doesn't score more than 3 and we got a special treat with 6 and we blew it. Hopefully the Twins lose again. 3-2, he'll prolly walk him or give up a hit.

I'll back him. Put me on that list.

That was pre-new roof. The new upper deck makes the ball carry much further. But he was right back then. The ball wasn't known to fly, especially going to CF. It would seem that you could get a huge hit off the bat into CF and then it would die before it left the park, now the ball carries alot more.

Skanky. I love it.

Yeah, I think Soriano will start because he's always voted in and Roberts will make it as a backup because he's having such a great year. Iguchi doesn't have the power numbers or East Coast Propoganda that Roberts has.

Poor guy. Feel sorry for his daughter too. I wish him the best.

Haha, if he doesn't play, the ticket sales will drop off and we'll have a walkup crowd of about 1,000. Face it, Cubs fans are buying this series, not Sox fans which is dissapointing.