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QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:35 AM) I'm not giving up hope that something good is coming from this. As this is reported, KW would have been much better off just keeping Jackson and cashing him in for a sandwich pick. Dumping Teahen's salary makes no sense if you're picking up Frasor's salary. Unless... Does Frasor profile as a type B as well? He does.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:31 AM) It's been confirmed by multiple outlets that the Cardinals offered Rasmus to the Sox for Jackson, Thornton, and a spect. Now things have changed and Kenny's being forced to find a way to include Teabag, which is going to cost us Rasmus and anything legit in this deal. Good point. If that would've gotten the deal done, you do it. You still shed salary and get a potential stud on your hands.

QUOTE (chunk23 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:28 AM) People are mad because KW traded away a very good young pitcher for an okay older pitcher, which is now being turned into a relief pitcher, while another team uses Jackson as the centerpiece to acquire a very good young outfielder. In other words, KW is mismanaging his resources and other GMs are taking advantage. This X1000

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:23 AM) Looks like a 3 team trade, Cards get EJAX, Toronto gets Rasmus, we ger Frasor. Beatnik tweeting: SOX ARE NOT trading John Danks. The Sox are idiots if they are not thinking about trading Danks. Blow it all the way up if you must. Time to get some good prospects. Kyle Drabek better be coming through that door with Jason Frasor.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:17 AM) Keep in mind, if the Jays flip him to St Louis for Rasmus, they also have much nicer pieces down on the farm they can send along with him. Just because they are able to get Rasmus out of Jackson, does not mean we necessarily could have as well Depends on if they send a prospect with, and who that prospect is. If it's Lawrie, that's one thing. If it's a similar guy to Cooper, I say we march to Kenny's doorsteps.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:12 AM) @SI_JonHeyman - Word is, #bluejays may spin e-jax to #stlcards if get him from #chisox @DKnobler - I hear if Edwin Jackson, Teahen go to Toronto, good chance they don't stay there (i.e. get flipped to third team). And yes, third team would likely be Cardinals (Rasmus) Kenny asleep at the wheel!

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 10:11 AM) Reposting: Jon Heyman SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman Word is, #bluejays may spin e-jax to #stlcards if get him from #chisox 46 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply If the words, Colby Rasmus or Top Prospect come out, I'm going to be upset.

As others have noted, this simply means they have been told to dump salary. I'm sure the Jays would get a better deal for Jackson alone.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 26, 2011 -> 01:17 PM) I dont think they would have to necessarily keep him off tv for the entire time. Run-ins, video interruptions, watchign from the crowd, ROH appearances. They could have milked this cow a little bit more. Regardless, I am watching. That would've been a good idea honestly.

QUOTE (PolishPrince34 @ Jul 27, 2011 -> 09:41 AM) We better be getting some pitching prospects that are MLB ready or very soon if we are thinking of trading Danks or Floyd. Buehrle is free agent, Peavy is a major injury waiting to happen, and possibly changing Sale back to a starter might be a mistake and lead to an injury. Look what has happened to Feliz this year since messing him up. Also, if you do change Sale to a starter at most he can pitch 130-140 innings next year. Agreed. I was listening to The Score this morning and they brought up a good point. Peavy says all the right things and such, but he's like Rich Harden. He's very delicate and he has to take 2 weeks to gear up for a start, or else, don't expect much. Both have outstanding stuff when they're on, but right now, are both huge injury concerns.

This is one trade in which I will hate Kenny for off the bat and disagree with right away. I think it's an awful move considering starting pitching is a premium and the big spenders want it. Simply godawful trade. I guess they weren't lying when they wanted to cut payroll which I really can't blame them. BTW, thread starter hit it on the head. Kudos.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 10:35 PM) Cult of Personality was a good song for his persona at the moment It was his theme song for ROH

I predicted this would happen somewhere else. I also thinks it's too soon. I think the WWE did it though because of the support Punk has gotten. I see him losing at SummerSlam. No way Super Cena loses twice to the same wrestler in the same year.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 10:46 PM) I don't really get these threads. I'll be watching every game possible and hoping we win. I also think we're the most talented team in the division. But, I really don't have faith (or think) that this general manager, manager, and group of players will be able to stay out of their own way enough to win this division. Where does that put me? This. QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 10:48 PM) Can we get the stupid Germans bombing pearl harbor quote over with. Then we can all get rally x player avatars because it worked in 05. WAS IT OVER WHEN THE GERMANS BOMBED PEARL HARBOR?! RALLY PIERRE!

The move to finally put us over the top!

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 09:19 PM) LOL wrong thread. Needed to come over here to try and hate huh? Out of curiousity, how much is tuition there? Serious question.

Never was a fan of Henry. Maybe that's because they always underused him. Maybe they did that because he was always injured. Either way, Punk/Cena has a WM main event feeling to it which to me, they haven't had in a long time. Sad that Punk is leaving. I think he meant it when he said on Raw that he's burnt out and tired from it all. Punk/Cena is the best angle they've had in awhile simply because it's really about the two of them and Vince. No Nexxus storyline, not Cena Nation storyline, and no pro-Vince storyline. All of them have been made to look as bad guys. I must say though, Punk's been cutting the best promo's I've seen from a wrestler in years. If he were to come back I think the fans would cheer him so much, that he would be a good guy with a bad guy persona like Austin was. Only way Punk could stay and remain a bad guy is if he was in cahoots with Vince McMahon and he becomes his corporate champion.

Jackson would be really good in a pitcher's ballpark. Balta did a decent scouting report of him a few pages earlier. He's a two pitch pitcher who's dominant when on, but off when he can't locate one of them. He needs to develop something offspeed. Even then, I'd shop him to every team known to man. To STL for Rasmus would work for me. Then Danks to NY for Montero and a middle IF. Quentin for Beachy. Pierre for anyone who takes him. Buehrle(as much as that would kind of suck) and Beckham to Boston for Rizzo and Iglesias(ok, maybe not realistic). Quentin for Beachy, and AJ to whatever team needs a catcher. That's right boys, time to blow it up for prospects. The kids can play. Hopefully they get a new teacher other than Ozzie though.

You can clearly tell, the captain doesn't listen to him anymore. When Ozzie went beserk a few weeks back after a loss, PK basically implied he knows how and when to tune him out as it's Ozzie being Ozzie. Anytime a captain implies such, it means he at the very least, has lost his biggest backer. ElRockin, do you believe managers, coaches, etc. affect how a team performs?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 05:30 PM) I don't agree at all. This team is loaded with talent. The potential is there. I agree.

Why bunt with Alexei when he's 2 for 3. No reason to give up an out.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 01:11 PM) I find anyone's credibility that works for ESPN to be zilch, nada. Even Gammon. They are a 24 hour network so they have to create news. It's worse during the NFL season. Gammons has serious credibility and is well respected in any sport as a writer and reporter. There's a reason why he made the writer's HOF. He's with MLBtv and they paid him a pretty penny because of it. He's like the Adam Schefter of the MLB.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 01:40 PM) Ozzie being fired would be the most exciting Sox thing for me since the WS. No exaggeration. Honestly for me too, but that could be topped if Walker is included with him.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 12:02 AM) This is what gets me. You just admitted you are infatuated with her, but you get mad at me and others when we say to make a move and try to "hit it" like we are immoral. It seems to me you want to set it up neatly. Ask her if she wants a relationship. Ask her if she wants to date you. Ask her politely if she wants to drop her boyfriend for you. Commendable, but my gosh, nice guys do finish last. You are not going to win her this way. You told me YOU ARE INFATUATED with her. That means you want sex. What is wrong with trying to make a move and see if it happens. This scenario you want is a joke. She will say you are a sweet guy and she wants to be friends. Period. Right?? If you want this scenario to end this way, then you at least take command and tell her you do not want to talk to her much outside of work any more out of respect to her BF Period. What are you trying to get out of this? A conversation with her that has her simply tell you she desires to be friends? What's the story about her saying you have no dick? What was that all about? This and what flyleaf said 100%. You are wanting a scenario which is a fantasy. It's not going to happen. You either need to hit it since you're only infatuated with her, or move the hell on. Else you're going to continue to be her whooping boy who provides emotional support. That's what girlfriends are for. And that's what you're acting like, her girlfriend she can tell all her problems to and come to for advice. The person who's going to catch her when she falls. Meanwhile, your own damn friend was making moves on her as he can see her for what she is, even when drunk. Grab your package, reattach it to where it's supposed to be, and grab the situation by the horns. You will definitely end up at the bottom if you continue on this path.

QUOTE (SpainSOXfan09 @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 12:05 AM) I just don't see JR firing KW. Some serious accountability would be nice. Heck JR wouldn't even fire Paxson during the brutal Bull's years. Bulls were only bad for one year during Paxson's tenure and that's when he cleaned up after Krause. Other than that, the Bulls have been in the playoffs for all but one year.