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I predicted this would happen somewhere else. I also thinks it's too soon. I think the WWE did it though because of the support Punk has gotten. I see him losing at SummerSlam. No way Super Cena loses twice to the same wrestler in the same year.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 10:46 PM) I don't really get these threads. I'll be watching every game possible and hoping we win. I also think we're the most talented team in the division. But, I really don't have faith (or think) that this general manager, manager, and group of players will be able to stay out of their own way enough to win this division. Where does that put me? This. QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Jul 25, 2011 -> 10:48 PM) Can we get the stupid Germans bombing pearl harbor quote over with. Then we can all get rally x player avatars because it worked in 05. WAS IT OVER WHEN THE GERMANS BOMBED PEARL HARBOR?! RALLY PIERRE!

The move to finally put us over the top!

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 11, 2011 -> 09:19 PM) LOL wrong thread. Needed to come over here to try and hate huh? Out of curiousity, how much is tuition there? Serious question.

Never was a fan of Henry. Maybe that's because they always underused him. Maybe they did that because he was always injured. Either way, Punk/Cena has a WM main event feeling to it which to me, they haven't had in a long time. Sad that Punk is leaving. I think he meant it when he said on Raw that he's burnt out and tired from it all. Punk/Cena is the best angle they've had in awhile simply because it's really about the two of them and Vince. No Nexxus storyline, not Cena Nation storyline, and no pro-Vince storyline. All of them have been made to look as bad guys. I must say though, Punk's been cutting the best promo's I've seen from a wrestler in years. If he were to come back I think the fans would cheer him so much, that he would be a good guy with a bad guy persona like Austin was. Only way Punk could stay and remain a bad guy is if he was in cahoots with Vince McMahon and he becomes his corporate champion.

Jackson would be really good in a pitcher's ballpark. Balta did a decent scouting report of him a few pages earlier. He's a two pitch pitcher who's dominant when on, but off when he can't locate one of them. He needs to develop something offspeed. Even then, I'd shop him to every team known to man. To STL for Rasmus would work for me. Then Danks to NY for Montero and a middle IF. Quentin for Beachy. Pierre for anyone who takes him. Buehrle(as much as that would kind of suck) and Beckham to Boston for Rizzo and Iglesias(ok, maybe not realistic). Quentin for Beachy, and AJ to whatever team needs a catcher. That's right boys, time to blow it up for prospects. The kids can play. Hopefully they get a new teacher other than Ozzie though.

You can clearly tell, the captain doesn't listen to him anymore. When Ozzie went beserk a few weeks back after a loss, PK basically implied he knows how and when to tune him out as it's Ozzie being Ozzie. Anytime a captain implies such, it means he at the very least, has lost his biggest backer. ElRockin, do you believe managers, coaches, etc. affect how a team performs?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 05:30 PM) I don't agree at all. This team is loaded with talent. The potential is there. I agree.

Why bunt with Alexei when he's 2 for 3. No reason to give up an out.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 01:11 PM) I find anyone's credibility that works for ESPN to be zilch, nada. Even Gammon. They are a 24 hour network so they have to create news. It's worse during the NFL season. Gammons has serious credibility and is well respected in any sport as a writer and reporter. There's a reason why he made the writer's HOF. He's with MLBtv and they paid him a pretty penny because of it. He's like the Adam Schefter of the MLB.

QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 01:40 PM) Ozzie being fired would be the most exciting Sox thing for me since the WS. No exaggeration. Honestly for me too, but that could be topped if Walker is included with him.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 12:02 AM) This is what gets me. You just admitted you are infatuated with her, but you get mad at me and others when we say to make a move and try to "hit it" like we are immoral. It seems to me you want to set it up neatly. Ask her if she wants a relationship. Ask her if she wants to date you. Ask her politely if she wants to drop her boyfriend for you. Commendable, but my gosh, nice guys do finish last. You are not going to win her this way. You told me YOU ARE INFATUATED with her. That means you want sex. What is wrong with trying to make a move and see if it happens. This scenario you want is a joke. She will say you are a sweet guy and she wants to be friends. Period. Right?? If you want this scenario to end this way, then you at least take command and tell her you do not want to talk to her much outside of work any more out of respect to her BF Period. What are you trying to get out of this? A conversation with her that has her simply tell you she desires to be friends? What's the story about her saying you have no dick? What was that all about? This and what flyleaf said 100%. You are wanting a scenario which is a fantasy. It's not going to happen. You either need to hit it since you're only infatuated with her, or move the hell on. Else you're going to continue to be her whooping boy who provides emotional support. That's what girlfriends are for. And that's what you're acting like, her girlfriend she can tell all her problems to and come to for advice. The person who's going to catch her when she falls. Meanwhile, your own damn friend was making moves on her as he can see her for what she is, even when drunk. Grab your package, reattach it to where it's supposed to be, and grab the situation by the horns. You will definitely end up at the bottom if you continue on this path.

QUOTE (SpainSOXfan09 @ Jul 9, 2011 -> 12:05 AM) I just don't see JR firing KW. Some serious accountability would be nice. Heck JR wouldn't even fire Paxson during the brutal Bull's years. Bulls were only bad for one year during Paxson's tenure and that's when he cleaned up after Krause. Other than that, the Bulls have been in the playoffs for all but one year.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 06:56 PM) SoxAce, you can't keep Danks around and pay him superstar money....not with Dunn, Peavy and Rios still on the payroll. This is going to have to be a return to the pre-2005 thinking again. How can they split/allocate resources so you can get 4-8 players to contribute for the same amount of money you'd pay Buehrle and/or Danks. You've also got to make a decision about trading Carlos Quentin to free up more salary room, because he's one of the most tradeable assets in the current market for power hitters. Reed better have some totally nasty, dominating stuff that you would project him over Santos at this point. 17/20 save conversion rate is about as good as Bobby Jenks ever put up for us. But yeah, if you build around the core of Konerko, Beckham, Ramirez and Viciedo, that's a pretty good start. And we've got some new pitching assets in Humber and possibly even Hector Santiago, along with Sale. Christian Marrero seems doomed to the same fate as David Cook and Maurice Gartrell with our organization. konerko is not a good start on a rebuilding team.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 09:06 PM) Well then agree to extremely disagree, because I'm not going to sit here and try to argue who knows this girl more, me or some people on a message board. Just because I am infatuated with this girl does not mean I don't see her with flaws. She is f***ed up in a lot of ways, but I would never characterize her as a whore/slut/hooker etc. I'm not budging on that, and in the scheme of things here, it's not even the issue at hand. you don't see it yet, but you're head over heels for this floozy. anyone who's that easy to get naked has slut tendencies. sorry to break it to you. you may think you know this girl but you don't know all that much. and I'd say the behavior has a lot to do with the conversation.

Honestly, if this team doesn't plan on letting go of the coaching staff outside of Don, then I blow up the entire thing. You probably wouldn't be able to move Dunn. You have an outside chance at moving Rios. Danks, Buehrle, and Humber(if you can get someone to overpay for him) Konerko, Beckham, Pierre, Pierzynski, Quentin and Rios also gone. I want Viciedo up and I want to obtain the best prospects by far. Not even positional fits, but literally, just the best prospects we can get.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 02:29 PM) This is all a bunch of crap. Unless you are a female that has been through something like that then don't make it sound like it's so easy to turn in your father. There are a million things going through someone's head in that scenario. "Will my father go to prison?" ""Will my family be torn apart?" "Will anyone believe me?" and so on. Don't make it sound like it's the same as turning in a shoplifter that you spotted. All I'm going to say is that as many girls who have actually suffered through such a horrendous experience, there are a ton of girls out there who lie about the situation and eventually start believing in that lie. I'm not going to harp on it anymore. QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 02:41 PM) Yeah, I completely believe her. Her mom left her when she was young, and was forced to live with her dad. What would happen if the only person that takes care of her went to jail? Orphanage? She is a very truthful person in my experience. Like I said before, she tells her boyfriend everything and was breaking down at my house because of how guilty she felt about the pool situation, and how she was going to explain it to him. I told her doesn't have to go in to details, but she said she never lies to him and will have to tell him or she will never sleep. I haven't talked to her very much at all since Wednesday night, but I'd imagine she has already told him about what happened. And no, I never asked her about what happened in depth. Not only do I not want her to have to relive those memories in front of me, and probably result in her breaking down, but I don't want to know details of s*** like that either. And she DOES tell me a lot of things. She has told me things that, according to her, only me and her boyfriend know about. She just feels completely trusting in me I guess. I had no reason to think this is making up horror stories for fun. That right there just sounds like she's pinning you against him, even if you don't want to be. I'm sure he doesn't either. She does all this stuff with you, then tells her boyfriend to make him jealous and give her more attention, even if negative which she wants, then goes to you, talks about how horrible the bf is, and you give her good attention. She gets the best of both worlds. And I guarantee, she does this with other guys before you and after you.

QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 02:55 PM) Yeah, she told me how the last time one of his friends dated her that she broke up with him and he gave her the cold shoulder for almost a year so as long as I'm the one getting hurt, I shouldn't have to lose my friend. Plus, it's generally always me getting hurt with women so I got that going for me. Chipper up pal. You got something potentially going. Just ride the wave and let it leave you where it may.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 02:22 AM) She's not a slut, hooker, skeezer, whore, or floozy, and I 100% believe she has been sexually abused/raped whatever by her father. I'm sorry, but I know her a lot more than you do, so don't be surprised that I would take exception to people calling her such names and accusing her of lying about things like that. She is no angel, and could very quite possibly just be playin' me, but it's not fair to say those other things. Okedoke. You're entitled to have your opinion. Did she ever file a police report? Did she ever go ahead and tell any authoritative figure? Did she ever do anything about it? I'm going to guess the answer is no. And I bet it's going to be some typical response "Well, he's my dad" or "Who was I going to tell?" or even better "What could I have done about it?" Unless she was locked away somewhere(which does happen in this cruel world), she has no excuse. Yes, it may be her dad, but it's also her body. And if she felt she couldn't tell anybody, why would she tell you out of all people? What makes you so special? Even more special than her current bf who she trashes with you, but in secret, tells him how much she loves him. What could she have done about it? A ton. She may have very well been abused, but based on this girl's makeup, she wasn't. But if you ever question her about it, she won't want to answer about it. And she believes in her own lie so much she'll stick to it. That's not just from my experiences with these type of girl, but from my brothers' and friends' experiences. I had other girls telling me this at the time as well. You may not want to hear about it, but reality bites. QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 02:27 AM) Oh, and she has yet to send me a text since the "I feel you so hard" text earlier in the day. I think she either A) Has already gotten the hint I am pissed off , B) Is so embarrassed by what happened last night C) My buddy told her I was pissed off (they worked together tonight) or D) Just hasn't gotten around to it for the first time since we started constantly texting each other over a month ago. Regardless, I still keep thinking about everything. Had a softball game tonight, saw a massive barn fire in my neighborhood, went to a friends bonfire and then watched some Louie CK to take my mind off things, but almost every spare moment I had and my mind was wandering, I was thinking about her and what is going to happen. This blooooowwwwsss. It was probably a combination of A, B, and C. D is probably moreso what you wished happen. I won't say you're infatuated with her, you actually love her. You use the words infatuate around friends and a messageboard, but you love the fact that she needs you for help and you could provide it. You love the fact that you can comfort her in everyway. You love the fact that you work with her and are giddy whenever you two work together, though you don't show it much. Many times, you think the stuff she likes is everything you like, even if it's not true. If you don't run, one way or another soon though, you're going to crash into a brick wall. You think she's depressed, but when that happens, you'll just believe you can't believe you put that much effort into someone who doesn't love you back or even sees you that way. You are her emotional rag. It's either time to get something out of it and leave. Or just leave. Those are the only two plays here, or you'll get really hurt. QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 03:07 AM) This is what I don't get. You like her. You find her attractive and want to be with her and sleep with her if you were dating her. Yet you don't want to take the step to make the moves on her to see if she wants to date you. At any rate, put an end to it in some way. Either ask her if she wants to see you in a romantic way and dump her bf or just tell her you want more than she does and it's better you don't hang out any more but can chat at work. He's waiting for her to say she wants him so a)he won't feel guilty about the other guy and b)he'll feel that she genuinely loves him back. In reality, he'll just be an emotional doormat for the lady.

QUOTE (FlySox87 @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 08:32 AM) You're not talking about fun here. And you're not talking about hooking up. You're talking about getting a girl drunk so you can have sex with her, and a girl who has a boyfriend to boot. The first part is borderline rape, and the second part is outright sleaziness. I'm not gonna act like some sort of mega-puritan like I've never had sex or even sex with a random girl, but there is nothing honorable about boozing up an underage girl and boning her. I think Joe is better than that, but I could be wrong. Oh wow, no it's not. Talk about jumping the shark. You make it sound like he's trying to roofie her up and make her drink. Greg is saying, just hit it and quit it. And to hurry the process up, get some liquor. This happens every day. Secondly, the whole purpose is to get her to either sleep with him or leave him alone which is what Joe needs. QUOTE (FlySox87 @ Jul 8, 2011 -> 08:36 AM) Joe, you still haven't told us how you would feel if you were this girl's boyfriend. We can disagree all we want about whether she's a whore (it's a little sad that your only qualifications for whoredom are how many people she's slept with and what sort of clothes she wears), but do you really feel like she's being an honest girlfriend? If your answer is no, then you should listen to your morals. And if you wouldn't like someone else doing it to you, don't you do it to someone else. Back then, I'd feel horrible if I were the bf. But after growing up a little(I'm 25), I wouldn't necessarily get too upset because it wasn't meant to be. If it wasn't Joe Joe that breaks her, it would be his friend or someone else. Fact: She is going to cheat because she has serious issues. The faster that BF realizes that, the better in the long term.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 7, 2011 -> 09:20 PM) She is certainly not a dream girl for me, but I would never characterize her as a "hooker", "slut", or "whore" like some people have mentioned. If it wasn't completely innappropriate, I would post pictures of her so you guys could see. She reminds me of Ellen Page, and does not wear sleazy clothes at all. In fact, one of my petnames for her is "Juno" and "Junebug" because of the character Ellen Page portrays in the movie Juno. She has only had sex with 2 people in her life (consensually), and I honestly had no idea she has a great pair of titties because she doesn't wear revealing clothes. Like I said, she is kind of tomboyish in a sense. Nah bruh, she is a slut, hooker, skeezer, whore, or floozy. Whatever you want to call her, she is. She's doing it for attention. You've put in so much work, you might as well get some benefit before you end this. Else, you're going to think about her when you leave for college kicking yourself in the ass for wanting her. And my thought process is, for this chick in particular, if she's going to cheat(which I guarantee she will and probably already has), why shouldn't Joe who's been very good to her, not have a turn. And don't bring up her current boyfriend. She doesn't deserve him neither. The earlier her bf realizes that, the better off everyone else will be. BTW Joe, I wouldn't even buy the whole "I've been raped" jazz. That one girl I told you about earlier claimed rape when she was 13 by her brother's really good friend. I asked why she never reported it or said anything about it to anyone else, and she said because she didn't want to get him in trouble or create problems. In the end, she told everyone who would listen she was "raped" and she was actually very much into this guy and was good friends with him. Not by intimidation, as I met the guy(without realizing that was who raped her supposedly) and he was probably one of laid back people ever. Based on my experience, you're girl is lying about being raped as well.

No way. Only because half the purpose of Dunn was to have a power left handed hitter. Yes, he's had a bad year, but I'm willing to bet on him bouncing back over Soriano. Now if Soriano played 2B and batted lefty, then maybe.

QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Jul 7, 2011 -> 04:51 PM) JC -- There are numerous signs flashing at you in blinding neon light, all of which read: RUN FAST. RUN FAR. Seriously, you sound like too nice a guy to get ensnared in all this psycho-drama. Nothing is worth that. She was likley nuts long before she met you, and will remain nuts long after you're gone from the picture. There's nothing you can do to change that, and therefore nothing assholic whatsoever about checking out immediately. Its completely the best thing for you to do. Yes, but if this is the first time he's been in this situation, then despite us telling him what he shouldn't do, he's going to do it anyway. It's very hard to resist such temptation. Honestly Joe, just hit it a few times, make her cook you eggs, and then bounce.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Jul 6, 2011 -> 10:39 PM) What the f***? When I told her that, I didn't mean it literally. I told her I have no reason to conversate with her and I know she's just using me for attention that her bf is there for. I also told her, I didn't care for her situation anymore, to not bother contacting me, I wasn't interested in being her friend or having any relationship with her. She then kept sending me pictures of concerts she was going to which annoyed me. so that's when I told her what she should do. As far as the accident, it was a driving one apparently. Don't know much about it other than a semi was involved. My buddy was talking to her, even though I didn't want him to. It got to the point, where I didn't care as long as he didn't try to talk about her or with her around me. He didn't talk to her on a daily or weekly basis, just randomly. He found out a day after it happened on facebook and called me immediately and wanted to know if I wanted to pay my respects, but I didn't have any respect for her anymore. So I said it was better that I left that alone. My girlfriend was shocked, but that whole situation was tumultuous and unhealthy. She claimed all the things that Joe has claimed this girl has in his posts. Many were lies. She also had a huge tendency to talk about all of her friends very negatively, as well as her bf behind their backs. Like seriously, I would have no idea these people were her friends.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Jul 7, 2011 -> 03:09 PM) I agree with everything you guys are saying, I just hope I have enough will power to resist getting sucked in to her again. Wow bro, run! I've had similar episodes with that one girl I posted about. It'll get worse. $20 says she texts you about her offing herself so you can get worked up, give her a bunch of attention and in the end, you find out it was literally nothing but her wanting so much attention.