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QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 24, 2018 -> 09:11 AM) We could fills gaps with a few key free agent signings^ We don't need to hit on every prospect, but our key guys need to pan out and produce We could, but, I'd much rather try to plug FA gaps at places like the corners than up the middle, or relief pitching than starting. We'll need to fill gaps via trade too, so it will be better to have a definition of needs.

I just don't think I would put Collins above Dunning. Every year is interesting, but given the age of some of so many of our prospects, seems like we'll be able to separate the wheat from the chaff this year.

I still think holding players back from being called up unless they signed team friendly extensions was wrong but yes there was still risk on team side and this was a case.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 24, 2018 -> 09:03 AM) Correct, but we DID have Chris Sale, Jose Quintana, David Robertson, Tommy Kahnle, etc. The system is no doubt better, but we don't have the MLB core anymore. The system has to first replenish the value we traded and THEN add more for us to be a contender. It only works out if the trades yield more guys than they cost us initially. I'm not saying it won't, but we have to let it do it's work to see what we "have" first -- and that part is a numbers game. Now, the reason Hahn is kicking tires is because you have to find out if the Marlins are going to trade him for less than he's worth, in which case of course we should get him. But given the sheer number of teams that have been connected, they're clearly not going to have to trade him for a discount. I agree with this. I would just want to get to more definition on what's needed. Maybe we miraculously hit home runs with all of our OF prospects but all of our infield turns out to be trash. That's a realistic scenario now. We also may need every one of those pitching prospects to form only a decent rotation.

I do personally think it would be more fair to gauge this at mid-year considering 3 of those types of guys just graduated and another we are saying fell off just due to an injury.

I am very much looking forward to the meathead radio about how Arrieta won in the World Series and Darcish could not.

Well NOW i've heard something good.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jan 23, 2018 -> 03:36 PM) I would like to go to a Super Bowl at least one in my life, but not for that kind of money. I've heard nothing good about it if your team ain't in it, and for me, that's the reality every year

I agree, I'm not saying Hoiberg is popovich but I think Kawhi would fare very well in this offense. I would assume mirotic isn't there but especially on lineups like dunn-lavine-leonard-markannen-mirotic.

Are people still mad about him "overranking" tatis even though tatis is now a universal top ten prospect?

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 23, 2018 -> 12:11 PM) Hub was mentioning a safety at 8. Says the guys available at the other positions of need either aren't top 10 guys or will be long gone. Of course, this is really early in the process. Hub also believes when it is all said and done, Mason Rudolph will be the first QB selected. If Mason Rudolph 1st means there was a run on QBs then that's good, if it means none of the qbs are top pick worthy (which i'd put money against), then that's bad.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jan 23, 2018 -> 01:24 PM) I find it ironic you have a quote from DFW as your sig but like Carson. DFW's brilliance and self awareness and humility is about as far from Carson's style as it gets, author wise. Carson is the type of writer I find insufferable. The constant self promotion, the false humility passing as real humility, the "quirkiness" that he lays on thicker than the butter on an obese person's bread -- I can't stand it. Why are you comparing Carson Cistulli to david foster wallace?

Hmm yes I did forget Victor Diaz was a person.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Jan 23, 2018 -> 11:12 AM) Bears have 2 picks in the first four rounds. If they aren't in love with any player in the first and have a willing partner, it might be smart to trade back. Same would go for the 2nd round. That's not accurate, Bears have 2 fourth round picks. 1, 2, 4, 4

ignoring that Anyway one thing I've been thinking about that worries me about Rutherford only from media, is Collins, Burger and Sheets had issues last year and from everything we heard have attempted to make substantial changes to improve them. With rutherford, we heard last year his swing prevented him from generated power. And all I've heard out of him is that he grew, and that he'll be fine. This is all part of the process with guys, and I hope he's right, but I worry about whether he's going to resist necessary updates and just rely on getting stronger.

Er, woops, 3rd round you'd definitely want Austin Hays or Jesus Luzardo over Call.

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 23, 2018 -> 09:48 AM) I was curious too so I looked it up. From the 2016 draft after Collins: Bo Bichette (#8) Forrest Whitley (#10) Austin Hays (#21) Taylor Trammell (#48) Alec Hansen (#57) Kyle Lewis (#67) Mitchell White (#69) Jon Duplantier (#73) Corbin Burnes (#74) Dane Dunning (#82) Jason Groome (#83) Tyler O'Neill (#86) From the 2017 draft after Burger: Alex Faedo (#50) J.B. Bukauskas (#76) Heliot Ramos (#79) Nate Pearson (#91) Brent Rooker (#92) That actually makes me feel better. Ideal draft obviously in 2016 is probably Whitley / Hansen / Bichette instead of Collins / Burdi / Hansen, but the main problem there was tryign to use a draft pick to get better that year. Hopefully they are done with that stuff. 2017, I am not an expert, but as soon as I saw Ramos highlights I was on his bandwagon. The rest, I wouldn't want Rooker over Burger. And the board was against college pitching but I think the Faedo stuff sucks to miss on. I would feel better about system with Faedo instead of him.

I probably have tendencies to just rise and fall with the prospects progression but not really sure I have call on my radar anymore.

:rolleeyes cistulli is great

Eric Longenhagen was on with Cistulli for Fangraphs Audio and talked about the hitters camp the sox held and he attended https://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/category/podcast/ Starts I think minute 30 or maybe a bit earlier. First talks about Jake Burger and how he likes his power but just has a hard time believing his body can be at third base. Then it gets into Robert. Choice quotes: "The power was un-bee-liev-able" "In tools, he's up there with acuna, tatis" Talks about the questions will continue on his hit tool. But mentioned how some prospects get punished for lack of info while others get rewarded.

Wow, that’s encouraging on Robert.

Man Lavine may have looked decent on offense but his defense is like watching wade last year.

Lol. They gave a 17 point lead away in under 4 minutes and now could win because the pelicans fouled Holliday on a 3 pointer

Almost lost it all back. Team has a really bad reaction to the press.

This team is nuts.