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Yeah I guess I was thinking more how Skenes signed for 500k less than the slot value, but if we could get the savings you mean that would be significant. Would still like them entertaining a return of a comp back instead of prospect, as a next years draft with a budget to take comfortable swings up and down the draft would be a first for the sox.

it would rule to get cholowsky, would be really nice to trade for a supp pick because I'm sure we'd end up paying around slot. Seems unlikely he'd not want new record?

I still like McClain but it has always felt like injuries in that first year just end up making guys disappear and never come back. The exception in a big way has been Tanner MacDougal. But he's high school.

Get out of here nick hostetler

Can’t complain about this draft. Looks like a normal baseball team draft.

I definitely have a built in tendency now to immediately downgrade a prospect as soon as we acquire them just because the white sox thought they were good. However, of all the players to make the focal point of it, I think Fauske should get the least ire. He's a good pick, he's local, and he has an exciting bat. If anything he deserves our sympathy. But it's cool to have him. It's cool to have Schultz. It's cool to have Wolkow. It would have been cool to have Thomas. Let's get mad at a pretty milquetoast 3rd rounder, which hasn't exactly been a goldrush either.

Gabe Davis will benefit from sounding like someone you've heard of before (then you remember you are thinking of the bills receiver)

Even so, I’d be surprised if there is much savings with Lodise. Maybe 50k or so.

I’m always underwhelmed by the non first round college infielders. But I will say they do work out fine for other teams a bunch, but have never played above what we’d expect (get to double A and are already maxed out). so I will continue to not like these types of players but hey maybe we are a different org now who knows.

He did that himself

Yes but then that’s my phone anyway…enjoy having local kids. Saw Fauske play. Hope he’s all feeling good now.

So annoying not having mlb.tv

That one seemed like a Shirley pick too

We haven’t drafted raw hitters in a while really, and where we have they have been corner profiles. Really isn’t a profile the Sox have explored with higher picks. My main concern is it seems like every time we draft a position guy with a no doubt plus skill like this (defense) they then get in our system and first reports are it’s not nearly as good as they thought.

Worst school name ever

yeah but also jesus christ he was hired the previous July and wasn't the whole point of Getz that he 'knew what they needed'...he moved so much slower than a regular old new gm cleaning house and bringing...uh...people that can teach hitting. I get, I guess, feeling like you'd want alignment on a top 6 pick and your PD team which wasn't there yet. It is absurd you didn't have that 12 months in.

I just don't understand how you all plan to get hitting. Last year this board was blown away as top 50 pitching prospects were being traded for expiring contract hitters. 4 to 1 deals (all pitching prospects) sent out for hitters and pitchers. But it took sending out a starting pitcher and top reliever to get a 24 year old hitter with his prospect shine off in vargas. Milwaukee traded an ace for a deal of way weaker position prospects than this board expected. Catchers and pitchers - that's what's available in trades. Our BPA pick last year is awesome until he had forearm soreness and we realized the guy already had TJS. Was a smidge away from a 2-time tommy john pitcher before he stepped foot on a mound for the sox. We'll be a team of Mike Tauchman-level signings and whomever first-round pitchers aren't on the shelf for tommy john for the next decade. BPA just is not a thing in the mlb draft.

Trading pitching for hitting just is not bringing the same value. Pitching prospects especially. It's just not going to move the needle.

I think our pitching development is overrated here. We put a ton of resources into it compared to hitting and get better than last results. But this ain't milwaukee. We are just one years removed from being unable to find even a single competent starter in AAA that could spot start and not be a disaster. And could not find a competent reliever. That doesn't happen to teams that can actually develop pitching.

I wouldn't say Hagen fit their needs best last year.

I just think the sox basically have no avenues to add hitting except the draft. We have no good trade assets left. Too many examples of finding a Smith in rule 5, Houser off waivers...the hitting equivalents aren't there. They have a bad offense with very little hitting prospects on their way. They'd have to hit 100% on those and few who look like wreckers. There may not be such a thing as too much pitching, but they definitely have too little hitting to ever compete more than 70 wins.

They didn't even change the writeup. I feel like this is BA doing a bit of "Surely this top college pitcher won't fall this far!".

I'm betting on Vargas. He's had rough stretches, but he has very high baseball IQ. The sox had a good decade stretch of zero baseball players you could say that about.

I mean never a bad position to add, but I would have put outfield as I don't see a single long term starter in our org there.

Does not feel like there is support in the sox for players like Laviollete, they have passed on so many like him last 5 years or so. And not even incorrectly.