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QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jul 27, 2017 -> 10:14 AM) The Rays must be really down on Gillaspie to give him up for Jennings, but I thought Jennings had little to no value anyway so this is still a nice get. Yeah this is how I feel. The fall for Gillaspie clearly was a "reevaluate your priors" moment, so it's worth it to see if the recovery is miraculous but I'm not expecting much.

This feels analogous to getting someone like AJ Reed. He has hit depths that Davidson hit 2 years ago. Interesting acquisition for a guy like Jennings.

QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Jul 27, 2017 -> 08:58 AM) I've always liked this one from RA Dickey. It's one of his cards in MLB the Show 16. I think something promising for Hansen is his face will lend itself very easily to video game graphics.

Birmingham is where our promising hitters have gone to die. If he does well in Birmingham let him spend year there. Make AAA the shorter stint.

Yeah this has been one of the very nice surprises of 2017 along with Adolfo. I think with his age we can push him more aggressively, I mean sox have had NO problems moving catchers from AA to majors (not that I'm advising that). But what a great year. He's had some monster months.

I don't know if it's true, but I like the idea of staying down there so they feel more free to work on pitches like his new cutter without worrying about the consequences of runs as much. No matter how much we say the majors is low pressure for the sox right now, nobody wants to get shelled on tv in front of at least double the audience of Charlotte.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 27, 2017 -> 09:06 AM) Senate GOP plans to throw something together over lunch today and Cornyn is saying it'll be passed tonight. That's how 1/6 of our economy is going to be rewritten and how millions are going to lose access to affordable healthcare. Unless it's what's already scored from december I don't think they'll be able to do it until tomorrow afternoon.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 03:20 PM) Cool. So both of you ranting about the Democratic message, the messenger, etc, haven't even taken the time to actually see or hear it presented. So, basically, you're totally credible in your opinions. If my opinion is that nobody will watch a press conference about a platform then I have maintained my credibility. You would have to name a price to get me to watch that. Probably $20.

Dunning and too high. Hamilton underrated.

QUOTE (JPR @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 10:39 PM) You can put it on the board...yes! For all the heat Hawk has taken over the years I'm gonna miss him. He's synonymous with summer, swimming, fireworks, and grilling! He should get a statue. Love how Moncada homers in his home debut :steadypimpinDoOrDieemojii: Not quite his home debut. He debuted against dodgers

QUOTE (whitesoxwinner @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 10:24 PM) Not sure if we need a topic for this, but what a bomb and hopefully the first of many!! Definitely does. On a breaking ball no less!

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 09:40 PM) Henzman with an inning He's alive

QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 05:13 PM) The question about demotion or not is solely about what's going to produce the best outcome for Tim. The 2017 White Sox can sustain s***ty shortstop play. So if the Sox believe a demotion would be very bad for an already negative state of mind, keep him up here. If they think they can sell a demotion to AAA to Tim as something that's good for him and not a reflection of the Sox believing he's a terrible player, then consider that instead. The right move will be hard to know from the outside. With that said, he should start getting more frequent rest in the near term and by next season, he should have a short leash regardless of what may be going on emotionally/mentally. I agree with this and I'd hope the fact that Sox already invested in him smooths that over.

Dansby Swanson being sent down. I still don't see it as this big betrayal to give him a AAA stint, I really think it will help.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 09:01 PM) Yeah, he's been improving. He'll need to start next season in Winston-Salem again, but he'll probably still be young for his league. Way to early to give up on him IMO. Kid was raw, hard to remember what it's like to follow these raw guys. But all you can ask is they improve.

Luis Basabe in July: .279 / .347 / .456 / .801 and a 17% k rate

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 06:54 PM) Zavala with a three run HR. Dude has been insane at Winston-Salem so far. When does he finally get some attention from the prospect gurus? Seriously this is crazy

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 12:42 PM) So Rick Hahn hiding at fanfest was fake? According to this, it was Tuesday that Theo said he would include Jimenez and Case. “At that point, he expressed a willingness to potentially include Jimenez and Case,” Hahn said. “We spent the next several hours, including the bulk of the time while I was sitting at the All-Star Game, texting back and forth trying to put together the final two pieces on the back end of this deal. From Sunday morning until the end of Tuesday night, it was a pretty quick turnaround on things. But you’re only able to do that because both sides, the White Sox and the Cubs, have spent all that time and the scouts and analysts and the front office have spent that amount of time preparing to move quickly this time of year. We had that level of comfort in terms of who these players are.” This is a whole bunch of effort to nitpick how specific he was when he used "several". We have no idea at what point Jerry was brought into discussions. But even according to above, the deal was done on Tuesday. It was announced on Thursday. Most likely scenario - Jerry brought in earlier when the JImenez/Cease barrier was broken, which could have been Monday. Fanfest was all weekend. So 3 days - several. Or it was only 2, and Sherman should be fired, because that is only a couple.

QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 11:44 AM) The rebuild has been excellent, but he likes literally no one the Sox have acquired. How do you offer both of these opinions simultaneously? Kopech is his highest rated pitcher. He loves Eloy Jimenez. He likes rutherford's swing but questions his power and position. He has Moncada as a top 20 player. Weird way of showing hate.

Joel Sherman is a very good baseball reporter. We have no reason to dispute what he says, as Hahn himself said the main pieces were in order ahead of the trade.

Dignity mainly.

But they aren't even coming up with an excuse.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 11:42 AM) If this story is true, Hahn and Theo were lying when they gave the timeline of the deal. I saw a quote from Hahn that said about 20-25% of the rumors on the intranet about the Sox is true. Is it? I thought Hahn said it was basically done on Tuesday after agreeing on Eloy and Cease as main guys on Monday. I thought that it was just haggling over 2nd pieces the next few days but it sounds like it was actually talking it through with ownership.

Read that they think passing skinny repeal could lead to a conference where the house bill gets reconfirmed. Heller folded like a weasel. Capito folded like a weasel. This thing depends on Rand Paul actually killing it from the right and I don't see it happening. Have never seen anything like people trashing how terrible a bill is and then folding with NO rationale for why it's better.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 11:29 AM) But if you can take one or two of those guys and turn them into players that can help you today, as opposed to losing them for nothing in a couple of months, why wouldn't you? I think they are trying to. Cashman historically waits until last day for his moves, but clear that OAK/CHW wanted to get out ahead of someone like Texas dumping anyone. But they may get Gray for a package headlined by mateo (no idea how accurate that is), and a bunch of these guys.