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QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 23, 2016 -> 07:56 PM) Houston would hate giving up just Bregman alone Read some of the fan posts on their Soxtalk equivalent here. They were actually incredibly reasonable. Lots of good stuff in there.

That seems like such a bad move for Haley. Admin jobs just aren't much of a way of career booster when already an executive position.

QUOTE (Ro Da Don @ Nov 23, 2016 -> 01:49 PM) Exactly. With the assets we'd be able to get in return, plus Anderson, Collins, Rodon, Fulmer, Burdi, ect., we'd be able to field an actual legitimate club within 1-3 years. No more below average players like Leury Garcia, JB Shuck, ect.,coming up when someone gets hurt. Actually talented players who could contribute to a winning team is what we need. We "might've be able to win" the past 7 years. Look how that turned out. I'm a big believer in prospects having relationships with the guys they play alongside playing a big part in winning. Look at how much Rizzo and Bryant love each other. Or Baez and Russell. The only way to gain such a culture and foster those relationships is through time and winning together on squads in the minors. I agree with last paragraph (Cardinals believe in this) but Rizzo and Bryant didn't play together in minors and I don't think Baez and Russell did either.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Nov 23, 2016 -> 02:07 PM) I just read that the Astros are going to be put up for Sale by their owner. Interesting. One would think that getting Sale would be compelling as a piece to market the franchise. Where'd you read that? Guy only owned it for what 5 years? That's dumb, interested to see what it goes for though.

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Nov 23, 2016 -> 01:20 PM) Just curious, what is the track record for Carpe Diem calling trades in the past? I don't think there is a track record, OTOH, this is more of a process who is in the race type post and not a "x is about to be dealt" one. All of it can change and any team can jump in or out at any point so wouldn't worry about it either way. But if true, its exciting because it means A+ prospects like Bregman/Urias are still in talks.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 23, 2016 -> 12:47 PM) I mean, McCown went 4-3 as a bears starter over 3 seasons, he really didnt do better. He just had Alshon completely beasting His statement was it got worse, not that it "didn't get better", but also that win percentage is higher than Cutlers.

Springer is obviously wickedly talented but him being 26 (even though he is a sure-r thing than Bregman) really deflates some air for me.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Nov 23, 2016 -> 12:34 PM) Why exactly would we care if Sale is traded to an AL team? Because every time he comes by we'll have to rent a dope car and beg a hot friend to stand with us to act like we are fine. We're doing good, totally forgot about you Chris.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 22, 2016 -> 12:43 PM) The thing is that anytime he is out, it gets worse. Except with McCown. Backup QBs do tend to be worse than Cutler, but not claiming he isn't a low, low end starter in league.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 23, 2016 -> 12:26 PM) Between the two teams, I would much rather see Sale traded to the National League. I like the Astros prospects more, though. Would rather just focus on getting better than whom we'll need to face in 2019/2020.

I'm not surprised re: DD and BoSox. For all the talk about how aggressive he is, almost all of his blockbusters were with teams where he used his $$ advantage to make the deal. With the white sox and Sale, there is no real money advantage. We aren't moving Sale because we can't re-sign him or is too expensive, we're moving him because we won't be good enough soon enough to build around him without using him as the resource to fill up our system.

I thought the front page of the Tribune article was total B.S. Not up to the high school teams to enforce the rules and they shouldn't be judged to do so.

Is it though? He has been healthy 1 WAR with higher ceiling catcher that can catch you 110 games and is fine defensively and an excellent framer. Navarro made 4 million, is a worse hitter than Castro and worse defensively. I mean, when you look around at what utility players sign for, a starting catcher signing for 8 mill is pretty reasonable.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 23, 2016 -> 10:25 AM) Remember...this is a report...could be total BS or could just be a plant. With some writers, you'd assume they are including this because they heard it somewhere. With this, it's written in a way that may be writers hypothesis or industry knowledge. Hard to know without much background on this writer.

I really hope this is just one of those stupid ideas that a writer would throw out because sox are looking to rebuild and would want to shed salary. One - 22 million isn't that much, even if he is terrible. two - If you are trading sale after committing to building around him for 4 years and failing, why would you lessen the return for $11 million a year, which you have shown to not be able to do jackcrap with. But, I'm not familiar with Ortiz, and I think it's 100% likely that this is just a very supid throwaway line from someone not that involved or interested in actually thinking about Sale or the White Sox. "Hey I did a quick google search on white sox and found an expensive player they might not want, I bet they're trying to unload him with sale!"

Yeah, good signing by them. Hawk is going to slobber for innings about castros twtw.

Castro signs with Twins at 3years 24.5 million. Chalking this up as a victory for ole bmags. Probably wasted it on misreading the trea turner article yesterday though...crap. http://www.twinkietown.com/2016/11/22/1372...-5-million-deal

He should play both ways in KBO.

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Nov 22, 2016 -> 01:53 PM) Fair, but he's done plenty of interviews. It's not as if the guy is hiding from the public is my point. Who, with Hannity?

He hadn't had a press conference since July.

Trump met with NYTimes, and had this to say: https://twitter.com/maggieNYT/status/801126093776449537 I'm glad he said that. I wish he would have more press interviews where this can all be discussed instead of Twitter.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 22, 2016 -> 01:14 PM) Greinke isn't a good example. He was a free agent at what, 32? Sale is 27. Right, more or less trying to figure out which of the teams in a Sale bidding war actually care about paying him top dollar vs. getting value.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Nov 22, 2016 -> 11:23 AM) If Sale never signed his extension, he'd be a free agent right now in a pool with no other pitchers like him or even close. He would easily get an 8 year/$250 mill deal (Dodgers, Red Sox, Yankees, Cubs?) I just think the Red Sox would rather have a 40 million Sale on their roster with all of their spects than a $13 million Sale and a boatload gone. Have to see on the rest. The dodgers did not re-sign Greinke after all.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Nov 22, 2016 -> 11:26 AM) I would just disagree with comparing their potential sphere of influence. Obviously not a perfect metric, but Milo had close to 400k twitter followers compared to 15k of Spencer (although both are gone now). I don't think Spencer is going to influence much of anyone. Milo and the others I have mentioned potentially could and if that scares people, I get it. Talking to people or reading websites to be allegedly associated with the alt-right, nobody cares about Spencer and 95% of them don't know who he is. I do not understand the focus on Spencer other than he's scary, but there's so much else here to criticize that I don't see the help in going after someone with so little influence. Hell Alex Jones is still doing daily shows or whatever, and this same group eats him up. The alt-right name on the whole I now see as an attempt to label the enemy, no different than those very same people naming everyone they don't like a sjw. I understand, I think what I am skiddish about here is that Trump has shown a tendency to not criticize anyone that praises him. There was no political benefit for him to continue to praise Putin in the election, but Putin said nice things about him. Same with David Duke, whom he begrudgingly condemned through spox. You have groups like Occupy Wall Street that always have a splinter group of anarchists. If OWS got people elected (they didn't), there would be a cry to publicly distance yourself from the anarchists if they were celebrating you and talking about their influence in electing you - even if they aren't part of your policy or inner circle. There is video of this conference in Washington DC praising Trumps election and talking about how it will bring US back to a European-white centric country. The thing to do is to make clear that they have no part of his governing, no part of his ideology. But that hasn't happened. It hasn't happened with Trump, and Trump has been very comfortable with Milo around as a de-facto surrogate, and Milo, as I showed, has not distanced himself from SPencer. Those are degrees of separation. Trump indeed probably has no idea who Spencer is. But why the hell isn't anyone saying "We condemn Spencer's version of America, it has no place in my administration or in the republican party and I will work hard to ensure America is a place for all." Ignoring this isn't going to cause it to whither and die. We are talking about neo-nazis doing Hitler salutes. It is insane.

Having flashbacks to when I dreamed of Marty Booker becoming our emergency QB.