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Even so, I’d be surprised if there is much savings with Lodise. Maybe 50k or so.

I’m always underwhelmed by the non first round college infielders. But I will say they do work out fine for other teams a bunch, but have never played above what we’d expect (get to double A and are already maxed out). so I will continue to not like these types of players but hey maybe we are a different org now who knows.

He did that himself

Yes but then that’s my phone anyway…enjoy having local kids. Saw Fauske play. Hope he’s all feeling good now.

So annoying not having mlb.tv

That one seemed like a Shirley pick too

We haven’t drafted raw hitters in a while really, and where we have they have been corner profiles. Really isn’t a profile the Sox have explored with higher picks. My main concern is it seems like every time we draft a position guy with a no doubt plus skill like this (defense) they then get in our system and first reports are it’s not nearly as good as they thought.

Worst school name ever

yeah but also jesus christ he was hired the previous July and wasn't the whole point of Getz that he 'knew what they needed'...he moved so much slower than a regular old new gm cleaning house and bringing...uh...people that can teach hitting. I get, I guess, feeling like you'd want alignment on a top 6 pick and your PD team which wasn't there yet. It is absurd you didn't have that 12 months in.

I just don't understand how you all plan to get hitting. Last year this board was blown away as top 50 pitching prospects were being traded for expiring contract hitters. 4 to 1 deals (all pitching prospects) sent out for hitters and pitchers. But it took sending out a starting pitcher and top reliever to get a 24 year old hitter with his prospect shine off in vargas. Milwaukee traded an ace for a deal of way weaker position prospects than this board expected. Catchers and pitchers - that's what's available in trades. Our BPA pick last year is awesome until he had forearm soreness and we realized the guy already had TJS. Was a smidge away from a 2-time tommy john pitcher before he stepped foot on a mound for the sox. We'll be a team of Mike Tauchman-level signings and whomever first-round pitchers aren't on the shelf for tommy john for the next decade. BPA just is not a thing in the mlb draft.

Trading pitching for hitting just is not bringing the same value. Pitching prospects especially. It's just not going to move the needle.

I think our pitching development is overrated here. We put a ton of resources into it compared to hitting and get better than last results. But this ain't milwaukee. We are just one years removed from being unable to find even a single competent starter in AAA that could spot start and not be a disaster. And could not find a competent reliever. That doesn't happen to teams that can actually develop pitching.

I wouldn't say Hagen fit their needs best last year.

I just think the sox basically have no avenues to add hitting except the draft. We have no good trade assets left. Too many examples of finding a Smith in rule 5, Houser off waivers...the hitting equivalents aren't there. They have a bad offense with very little hitting prospects on their way. They'd have to hit 100% on those and few who look like wreckers. There may not be such a thing as too much pitching, but they definitely have too little hitting to ever compete more than 70 wins.

They didn't even change the writeup. I feel like this is BA doing a bit of "Surely this top college pitcher won't fall this far!".

I'm betting on Vargas. He's had rough stretches, but he has very high baseball IQ. The sox had a good decade stretch of zero baseball players you could say that about.

I mean never a bad position to add, but I would have put outfield as I don't see a single long term starter in our org there.

Does not feel like there is support in the sox for players like Laviollete, they have passed on so many like him last 5 years or so. And not even incorrectly.

I hope it's unlikely, BA has had Arnold and Witherspoon in recent mocks but it has seemed more like a general BA being stubborn about the floors of the college pitchers. Sucks to be in the position where you just have the draft exclusively left to get bats but neither arnold or witherspoon have the physical profile that i'd be happy about biting with a top 10 pick. But we'll see.

we aren't even acknowledging the scenario of college pitcher + schoolcraft heh

I mean...I've deleted the post 4 times where I ask about Matt Shaw. Cubs are supposedly sniffing around Ke'Bryan Hayes. Perhaps he's the bait there, but just seems like that will be the kind of position player currency we'd be feasibly able to pop away.

Kinda dreading this trade season. Feels like once again it's going to be like "we are interested in Houser. Are you interested in five 19 year old pitchers? You want a position player? How about this Top catching prospect?" again.

I actually do kinda want him to be bad. I also just think soxtalk's belief that playing baseball players in different positions around the diamond destroys them offensively just makes no sense. Gordon Beckham just wasn't good enough offensively. Great defensive 3b though..

Not feeling confident!

Wanted to discuss the Meidroth slide. Me? I’m in favor.