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QUOTE (LDF @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 02:04 PM) i was refraining from that thought. i was even afraid of mentioning it on another thread. but unless he gets a knockout deal, he will go fa rt. but next fa sp are pretty stack. The middle schooler part of me just laughed.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 03:52 PM) E.Santana or Jimenez would have done jack squat for last year's team. Except knocking us out of the protected picks and giving us 2-3 more wins. And there's no way we should give him $48-50 million over 4 years with Rodon and Montas/Danish on the way. You hold onto your aces and keep your 4/5 or back of the rotation starters on 2 year contracts. I'm not saying they could have, but there was a large argument that we had depth because of how we happened to find so many people in 2013 with some success. Turns out we did not and had no long relievers and no anything.

hmm, what if Noesi has turned into a valuable piece. That would be interesting. I want to see him for another year, but I do want rotation depth this year. Last year we all thought we had it and then EJ happened and suddenly we all had to be like "ugh, marty was right".

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 10, 2014 -> 04:20 PM) Senator Bob Kerrey reminds us all how terrible he is in his USA Today editorial condemning the report and making all sorts of excuses for torturing people. "But 9/11!!!!!!" still justifies torture in many people's minds. edit: For example, there isn't a single sentence in this paragraph that is not some combination of a logical failure, wrong, contradiction of a previous sentence or an outright misrepresentation. Here Bob, take this quarter, it protects you from bears.

Ugh, WGN morning news, which I watch because they are funny! But I knew this would be the segment: Outline of torture report : "freezing baths" "forced feedings" "stress positions" (i.e. pulled out the parts largely known), no mention that it was done and killed several innocent people, and then followed up with their military analyst who says it is harmful to release their report. I'm sorry, but they had 10 years of explaining why this wasn't bad and was actively helpful, they don't get more time after it clearly was not to say "why does this need to be said?".

https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/542380...3039488/photo/1

More along these lines: Remarkably, the black site teams regularly fought back against HQ, which kept demanding intel that didn't exist. (See, for ex, pp. 78-80). - Marc Ambinder Tweet

Pretty sure last game Missouri was the favorite was Vanderbilt.

Meh, I'm just excited, for the first time a few years my friends felt the need to actually talk crap about the white sox. Good! Friends talking baseball? Partying like it's 2007.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 09:04 PM) "I think it's fine because I'll be a member of the best team in Chicago." anymore on that interview?

Let me refine that, many of the people sent their to do this were also morally injured: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-cia-lie...hniques-2014-12 Those that were in charge, should no doubt be punished.

I'm really glad this was released. Not only does it put to bed any notion of "was it torture?", it exposes the bigger lie at the heart of the CIA, that actions carried out are done by a bunch of well-trained, brilliant patriots pressing hard when they know they need info for the country...and yeah, no, it is the keystone cops.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/white-so...eff-samardzija/ Can't stand seeing "above average inning's eater" on the Q part, while waxing poetic on Samardjiza.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 07:23 PM) Yep. I've got him pegged for an extension. woo doggy.

CIA needs to be brought into real parts of government. This "we know what's best" crap has bit us over and over for 60 years.

Man this CIA doc is awful awful stuff. Awful stuff.

I appreciated Danks last year in that he was either just atrocious, or he was pretty good. IF you are gonna give up 5 runs, give up 20!

Would be lovely if he turned out as a bullpen piece.

The reporting of this deal has been so bizarre.

Props to the jokester who claimed it was Semien, Danish, and Trey. Really softened the landing.

QUOTE (flavum @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 05:02 PM) Still wouldn't be surprised if an Alexei trade to the Dodgers is coming. Just gonna throw it out there that I would then find all of our moves terrible, as our infield would have to be league worst.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 04:36 PM) We still have to significantly upgrade the defense. If we are going to build our team around the strength of pitching, we can't continue to ignore defense. Our team defense is just as bad today as it was when we started the off-season. That has to be addressed. Hanh / Kenny have to make another move and at a minimum we need a quality outfielder. Ideal scenario you get a quality outfielder and 3B and at that point, I say you are even favorites or close to even favorites. However, I doubt we have resources do to that. I totally agree.

QUOTE (shysocks @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 04:19 PM) That's just fandom - for some, not all. I'm one who didn't want to pay Robertson, but now that he's ours I'm finding ways to rationalize it. We're inclined to be happy about things the Sox do because we devote so much time to following them. Otherwise we'd run into some bumpy cognitive dissonance. I'll say this, I was someone who entered this offseason very scared that we were about to waste the next 2 years of a really great core of Abreu/Sale/Q. Others wanted to continue the build for a really strong 2018. I'm happy with this because I did not want to see any more irrelevant seasons from one of the best sox hitters of last 10 years, best sox pitcher in who knows how long, and Q, who is great. You are great Q.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 04:06 PM) The counterpoint is do I want to risk the White Sox's season on Viciedo being a vastly improved, tolerable OF to save that money? This is a silly hypothetical. Nobody is pointing a gun to our head saying "TAKE CRAWFORD OR YOU'RE STICK WITH VICIEDO"

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Dec 9, 2014 -> 04:10 PM) Considering those tickets were probably over 100 bucks. You could just sit in someones basement and get wasted for free. It seems like every NFL game these is a crazy amount of drunks and huge brawls. I don't think I would bring a kid to one of these games. Agreed, I don't think I ever want to go to a Bears game again after last years Rams-Bears game.