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Yes would be a much better team. Would be a surprising move.

Believe in the bears d.

Eh I’m with scs. San born is a starter.

Yeah I can’t imagine bell gets much. Schwarber got 4/80 last year after absolutely mashing. But is largely positionless. So that’s the ceiling. Nimmo could get 50-75% more than that. Meanwhile Bell is not Schwarber, his power isn’t near as dangerous. Im not even sure. 2 for $30? 3 for $48 tops?

Of course it is, but what threat is it to the pirates that he is leaving in FA? They know that already. They’ll trade him when they are good and ready or just let him walk and collect comp picks.

The pirates message was correct in that Reynolds has less than zero leverage.

We can’t? It’s 1B. We could probably get one in rule 5.

What does this even mean

You can’t trade crochet and graveman without making bullpen a priority again.

You don’t see too many trade requests in baseball do ya

Carlos Perez had a great night in winter ball. Future all star

Also should be a fun start to pitching in the minors. Macdougal is back, Pallette arrives, and Schultz gets first non backfield work.

My bad, I am also pro long term pitcher deals though so I concur it would have been good. I think many thought he was a 4/80 guy and one year wonder (eh 1.5). That said I wouldn’t make this deal for DeGrom. And since it’s another team, hope it doesn’t work out.

I don’t recall anyone thinking it was a bargain, especially with the fifth year. This board usually trashed every pitcher deal.

and yet when that deal was announced

I oughtta watch the Mariners more. Was surprised to see Toro here as I thought he was good, but that's because he had like a good first week right after his trade and that was about the last time I watched a mariners game.

Michael Wacha is 30!

lol what a year

Blown away by this acting like Perez is bad because he's being downgraded for the very reason you all think grandal was overhyped. It's like people saying yadi was bad at defense last 5 years. Nobody who watched the game believes that. Perez controls the game behind there, we haven't had that in ....

without looking it up someone tell me how old they think michael wacha is

I agree. But other franchises have done this "we're at an impasse, lets get what we can now and just sign someone else for control". I would not mind sox doing this because then we have to worry that they'll even put out a QO to get a 2nd rounder.

There are a number of free agent pitchers, many will likely sign a contract.

Perez is good.

I think this is actually possible. Unfortunately I think it will be a disaster, but yes I agree about it.

Well, if you aren't talking about this as a costcutting measure, the reason you would trade Gio is it is clear you will not re-sign him. He has been the rare sox to enter FA, and the other was Rodon, and Rodon is gone (after the detour). So you could also just say "we are going to trade Giolito away because we won't re-sign him, get value back, and sign a different pitcher we can get for the next 3-4 years". If you are just completely capped, you probably aren't trading Giolito it's true.