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Is Lou piniella alive still? I’d imagine he’ll interview if so.

The best managers are extending the work of the entire organization onto the field. PD, scouting, fitness, analytics, training. Since the Sox are terrible on that it makes sense they need to just go after old school star managers.

Amazing I am old as hell and still a baby during sports games. I’ll take games like this every week please.

Kinda hard to see the bears winning another game this season. Not the worst thing in the world, but definitely on the bad tail end of my expectations. The talent is so bad it’s easy to get mad at coaching, but still hard to believe we hired Poles only coaching hire unless the talent never improves.

Yep.

The cool thing about it Jason leaves is all the people who complained about hawk ad nauseum and the Jason ad nauseum will definitely not be complaining about the announcers not just monotonely commenting on the action packed ball game.

The “it’s not baseball people” is meaningless to me. Look around the league, that ship left the barn with Theo Epstein. It’s run by finance and consulting backgrounds, and in the case of Friedman, ideally they played baseball. The problem is just a silver spoon boy that is just cosplaying as the progressive business-minded intruder into the org. He learned fro Jr the best thing to do isn’t hire the best people, but the ones that will play the game of not rocking the boat and will batten down the hatches against outside criticism.

Hey we won two playoff games.

I've brought it up ad nauseum but if there is an underused guy I'd love, but high likelihood he's just ryan cordell, is James Outman from dodgers. He's a lefty. He's big, he plays a good outfield. He got some run this year, but I'm sure the dodgers will load up.

I'm not against it, I think Quatraro etc absolutely deserve a shot. I'm just saying I don't like how Hahn appears to think he is retrofitting a progressive organization over the top by hiring one of the least important cogs of one. But a manager is still a cog, and important. But a manager from tampa is likely to be a good manager, it just doesn't mean we are the rays because we hired the manager from tampa. The hilarious part about the white sox manager searches is I think broadly there are a lot of ways to get a good manager and boy have we figured out ways to get the rare cases I'll hate. (Didn't have a problem with Ricky outside the lack of search).

for those that are perplexed by baseball but very into the fashion industry hopefully my comment helps.

honestly to me the idea of getting a manager from a super successful org is like a struggling fashion designer hiring a model from Chanel and saying "wow, this model will totally make us as successful as Chanel" instead of being realistic about "wow this model is a great fit for the look of our clothes".

that's just from that reddit post. It's just rick hahn's personal fanfic.

It's so frustrating that we can't dream like this. He'll probably replace stearns in milwaukee or something.

Gotta swing around at some point. I do get so annoyed thinking about teams like the Grizzlies who are exciting as hell and drafted well, but were also rewarded with the excellent draft position for their few poor years. WHile the bulls miserable years net us terrible draft position. The bulls could have done a lot better, but they had a run of luck similar to the Magic. It makes it extremely difficult to turn it around.

was just going to come in here and say it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if we faced some tough injuries this year in a harder east. So many decent west teams were rewarded by just having much worse records in a better league. Time for that to happen to ze bulls.

I would definitely take like 50:1 odds on it being Thome.

Managing the clubhouse is 1000x more important to me than lineup construction.

I'm going to guess soxmachine, i'll take a look.

Not thrilled with zombies but Al Lopez does have a strong resume. No to Colas. Still would be pro Jim Thome don't care.

I do think I would be most interested in Beltran. But, I have a huge, wide group I'd be happy with. Would I be unhappy with Jirschele promotion? not really.

It's a shame it is so hard to track free agent acquisitions, really hard given they are tracked at an org level and trying to sift through ST invites, etc. Would love to have kept track of Hahn's total acquired WAR through FA vs. money spent and compare to other teams.

It is crazy how unhelpful the traffic mgmt cops are. One particularly tough game last year I got off at 90/94 and was going to the cash lots, suddenly they kept sending us south on Wentworth and not letting us turn on Pershing. I thought they were doing this in a thoughtful way and would swing us back around down like Princeton. Nope. Turns out they got annoyed that Pershing was so backed up at the light they “solved” it by just forcing the game traffic south. It was so dumb. Obviously it’s very hard to turn on a non light on Pershing, ended up grabbing a side street and carrying my son for ages. Missed 3 innings.

Just in continuing to build the case that Hahn is bad, I will keep drilling comparisons to the Atlanta Braves. For those new to my series, titled "Rick Hahn is bad", I've chosen the Braves because they to me are the most similar franchise to the White Sox. If that sounds odd, I'm referring to: - They are in same market group designations as the White Sox, so they do not get extra first round picks or international money (in fact, they've been crushed in international since the Coppy fiasco) - Have a strong but fickle fan base with a not great tv market that has put their budget in a lower stratosphere than the big market Dodgers/Giants/Red Sox/Cubs/Yankees/Mets/Phillies that are also teams who lack the additional team building boosts. For example, the estimated final payroll (I really can't find a site I like for this, but this comes from fangraphs roster resource) has the 2022 payroll of the Braves (post WORLD SERIES) at 188 million, less than the final 2022 payroll for the white sox of $196M. Both were also at similar payrolls. My thing with just firing Hahn for a new GM that, while likely being hand tied at how much can be done to revolutionize the MLB roster, could get a head start in trying to improve the organizations scouting and player development to be among the best in the game...which ANY franchise can achieve regardless of market size as the Tampa Rays and Guardians have shown. The Braves you may have noticed also had some underperforming stars this year. Albies and Acuna were injured for much of the year and not great in terms of production. Rosario's playoff magic did not translate at all, and Marcell Ozuna was awful in more ways than one. Matt Olson was good but not up to typical Matt Olson standards. Ian Anderson took a big step back, Odorizzi was a bad pickup, and Will Smith regressed in the bullpen. That is not the depths of struggles of the White Sox, as some guys had career years (Swanson and Riley). But the sox also had some of that of their own. Anyway this is a long way to get to the big difference between the franchises is while Hahn's minor leagues were completely tapped out by the time our team arrived in 2020, the Braves has not stopped. The modern braves arrived in 2018 when Acuna and Albies flew thru the ranks and added to longtime vets (Freeman) and smart trades (Inciarte and Swanson). Their starting pitching that year consisted of Julio Teheran, Folty, Sean Newcomb, Anibal Sanchez, and Brandon McCarthy. They still had one of the top farms in baseball. In 2019, they added from their farm Austin Riley, Mike Soroka and Max Fried join the rotation. In 2020, they added from their farm Ian Anderson, Touki Toussaint, and Kyle Wright. In 2021, they added from their farm William Contreras and Kyle Muller. In 2022, they added from their farm Michael Harris and Vaughn Grissom. Harris hits a 135 OPS+, Grissom a 118 OPS+ playing dynamic CF and 2b. They added Spencer Strider who was one of the best pitchers in baseball in the second half. They were able to replace Freddie Freeman with Matt Olson by trading out top prospect Christian Pache and Shea Langeliers. Look at their SP compared to 2018. Look at their bullpen. Look at their position players. You cannot have sustained excellence merely on the backs of your core being strong every year. You have to add and add and add and add and add and add. The pipeline can't stop. Michael Harris was a 3rd round pick in 2019, 20th overall. The Braves paid him 500k. 17 picks earlier the white sox took Andrew Dalquist and paid him 2 million. Did I mention he's a lefty? Vaughn Grissom is an 11th rounder from 2019. Shea Langeliers was picked 9th overall in 2019 which led to Olson. In 2020, they selected Spencer Strider in the 4th round for 500k. Because of the Jared Kelly bonus, the white sox selected a 10k signing who I don't know has played in baseball yet. They entered the year 22nd in org rankings for their farm. But that still allowed them to acquire Matt Olson, and introduce the possible NL rookie of year with either Strider or Harris. a 4th round pick and a 3rd. We will focus on the signings and ML budget. But it is all so much harder for the sox because they cannot sustainably bring talent in from draft and intl, and develop it.

I’d just start colas in RF right away unless he looks awful in ST. Guy lost way too much time in signing and his control benefits will be minimal.