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Arte Moreno probably crying in the corner reading this lol

Amazing

I’m still pro thome just FTR

Ozzie is being interviewed because they read the board and Greg is deeply influential in that front office.

They definitely didn’t try very hard (cubs are holding it at the Sheraton), but when you skip 3 years and recently changed your relationship (they moved to McCormick in 2020 which was pretty terrible) I can see them getting bumped in preference and throwing up their hands if they couldn’t get their previous Hilton or McCormick places. I think part of McCormick was expecting bigger crowds too so they may have ruled it out anyway. Regardless, ask any STH if they felt the Sox were treating them as important and special this year. this just carries forward the trend of this franchises descent into the fetal position.

There are only a handful of places within the city that would be a fit for Sox fest so yes changes in demand can affect it. They aren’t competing with hotel ballroom space.

I’m gonna guess there is a backlog of conferences finally booking and Sox were cheap and didn’t care that much anyway. But boy, what a bunch of cowards. Would have loved Hahn to pull out his “some thought I should have been executive of the year!” Line

I would think that’s a blessing. Try out the whole outside influence thing, then promptly replace him with DBo as manager.

Then sign him to a contract and not some day to day thing

My hunch: Hahn reads the message boards and sees the fans like Espada so he starts his rumor leaking to give him cover that whatever terrible manager they choose, people will think Hahn was handcuffed and wanted Espada. Its literally the only thing Hahn is good at.

The white Sox were 15th in IL days used by pitchers, so again hard to claim much of a problem there. They were also much closer to the team with the fewest days lost than to the most. Most of the playoff teams were ahead of them, and honestly if the Sox had more depth they could have used more. But regardless hard to see Injuries as something held against him, every team has injuries to pitchers. But sure, it’s a sign he sucks that he still got better production out of shitty bargain bin pitcher Vince Velazquez as a starter than his previous year, and matched the year before it. Or, it could be the case that the Sox were only 10th in pitching WAR despite heavy investment because Rick Hahn spent a lot of money on the worst Fa profile of veteran middle relief pitcher because Rick Hahn had no options even remotely passable. Why isn’t Katz please being a good pitching coach and showing these boys how to pitch Great team to pull from: “The Charlotte Knights finished 58-92, dead-last across the board: division, International League, all of Triple-A. They finished 28 games out of first place for the full season, with a run differential of an astounding -224. Charlotte finished 30th of 30 teams in Triple-A.” https://www.southsidesox.com/platform/amp/2022/10/12/23400247/charlotte-knights-2022-final-stats

Not enough context in here. Did Katz fail Keuchel? Well we got to see him go to his former coach afterward and was even worse then DFAd, then to Texas which has revived older pitchers of late and was even worse and promptly DFAd. The other half of this is the atrocious depth facing any injuries to the bullpen or rotation. The remaining 40 man pitchers were routinely over 8 ERA in Charlotte. When Crochet and Bummer go down, when starters miss a start, they were grabbing from pitchers that couldn’t make other teams minor league rosters. Despite that he got a 3 ERA out of a pitcher with a 9 ERA in Lambert and got strong production out of a pitcher jumping from AA in Martin. Vince Velazquez had his best year in 4 years. The Sox had a number of pitchers that were negative performing in Bennett Sousa, Keuchel, Ryan Burr, Jose Ruiz and Jake Diekman, whom they still all needed 145 innings from all that. That’s a lot of bad talent failing to not be bad for all the budget it took up. Thats where “10th in WAR despite first in spend” ends up

Gonna guess Giants.

This season has confirmed that the nfl is pretty impossible to figure out.

I think they are probably right that they could get a first in the offseason after teams know what their draft position is. 2nd and a fourth will be there anytime for him.

Maybe I’m putting too much in one story but Eloy and Schwarbers careers feel very similar, and Long gets a lot of credit for Schwarbers breakout in WAS. And the Nationals had so many breakouts during his tenure. It is never that straight forward but I feel like it’s worth a shot with how limited we can improve the club otherwise.

So I’m 100% team Kevin long, didn’t realize he wanted a manager gig. I could be legit excited for Eloy actually achieving his ceiling with Long, which could go a long way to helping this team.

Do you not remember Wash as a manager?

Definitely. Would actually excite me.

That’s the thing though

I really hope they just put schofield at guard, but willing to see Reiff over Borom too.

I think I'd be a good GM. If they hired me, you guys would be so mad because I'm very unqualified, but I think I'd win you over and really get Jerry to side with me over the yes-men just sucking at his teet.

No I think it is all of that, but also with all the problems you listed what are the good plays to call? Teams are crashing the edges to prevent roll outs, so you can't move the pocket easily. But our center has the strength of like, me, and so our interior still collapses within seconds. Despite that, against a good front, I thought we moved the ball easily. It was a very weird game to fail that badly in the red zone, but also case in point of what gets easier when you have some talented big, physical receiver and an interior that isn't getting pushed back to score TDs.

oh my god I would be so absolutely fine if we operated like the guardians but keep in mind, we do not get extra first round picks and additional intl budget, so that's why you do need to look to the few teams who are not top lux spenders but not getting buoyed by the league. I'll continue to point out the Braves as one to emulate.

"how did our talent get so bad after years of a shortage of draft picks, especially high draft picks, and converting high salaries to signing bonuses on our declining, older veterans, and a year in which we had the third fewest players on contract after the year, and then no first round pick?" It's a mystery.