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QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jul 31, 2012 -> 01:03 PM) Too bad Judges don't have to prove their case in court...the person(s) standing in front of them do. Unless your name is Scalia

nate robinson?

I think to bring in the main topic, I think it's ridiculous posturing. I disagree they should zone chickfila out for this. But Matthew Yglesias brought up, if you really don't want them in your neighborhood you can bring up the million stupid zoning laws to prevent people from getting there.

I missed the origin of this new argument, but if something is the right thing to do, no amount of work can really justify not doing it.

For a long time I didn't buy any albums and I had a firm mindset that this was morally correct. Now I buy 20+ albums a year plus get the premium subscription to Rdio. When you are 19 though, you have no money and you need music, just pay them back.

legislating behavior my ass.

Was in Austin this past weekend and caught Chromatics and Glass candy at Mohawk. It was really awesome, didn't even care that much for either band before that.

QUOTE (KG#1 @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 04:53 PM) Can we hire a translator for this person? I seriously don't ever know what the f*** he says.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 04:12 PM) Liriano has struggled with consistency since the injury. He's gone through this pattern where he comes out and is absolutely horrific, they send him to the bullpen, he works it out, comes back, pitches extremely well for a long time, and then eventually falls back into bad habits and struggles again. Hopefully Cooper can keep him on track. Yeah, this is true. I'm kind of isolating this year from previous ones for no reason.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 07:21 PM) The problem is they wouldn't really have any space unless they dumped multiple players. Even with Boozer gone, Rose/Deng/Noah is already $42 million. Then you add Kirk's deal ( If you want to move deng though, it's a lot easier next year when he has an expiring contract. At that point, Noah and Rose are your only bigger contracts, and then you have the option with Taj on what you want to do.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 06:19 PM) Hmm, wonder who that team was Danny... Certainly wasn't sox when he was there.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 05:35 PM) Always. Or I'd be in a state of panic 100% of the time. Pretty much, i hate having a lot of keys, can't stand cases on my iphone because it makes it bulkier. Having a lot of s*** in my pockets drives me nuts, so I just pat them constantly to make sure they are there.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 06:02 PM) That's JFL. I've been saying for several pages that what happened in the past doesn't really matter. Fair enough. I'd prefer Mayo over Hinrich. Especially after we saw Watson get the vet min. I have a hard time believing we couldn't find a PG of Watson quality to cover our asses this season without putting any resources into it. But, next year we have a bunch of expiring contracts plus the amnesty. I'm not really convinced we should follow the model of "bulls failed in 00 and 10 therefore can never land anyone big", I think if we get flexibilty there will be people who will come to Chicago to play with Rose and in Chicago.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 06:29 PM) In 2015, Cliff Lee will be 36 and making $25 million. Good luck to whatever team acquires that. That is unbelievable.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 05:05 PM) Says the guy that brought up the silly argument about what would have happened if Rose didn't get hurt and Bosh still did. None of us can say with any certainty what deals were really on the table, so it's impossible to know how feasibly some of the plans of attack were. If someone says we should have dealt Deng for a lottery pick, the easy response is "was that trade there?" We can only go on what actually happened, which is virtually nothing. One thing that did seem feasible though would have been getting Mayo, someone that actually could have made a difference when Rose is healthy, instead of splurging on a fading veteran stop-gap at the PG spot. Mayo at least has a chance of making a difference in their championship chase once Rose is healthy, Hinrich won't. You weren't exactly going to get another Kobe with their money, but a young, talented player would have been a much better choice. There may have been other options to add a potential long-term answer, I don't totally know what was on the table. Hinrich was pretty clearly a move made to try to tread water when Rose is out though, which shouldn't have been their top priority. No, I was responding to J4L acting like it was ridiculous anyone could have defeated the heat this year, when they were very vulnerable up until game 6 of the ECF. People shouldn't make claims like "Bulls weren't title contenders" and then when challeneged say "It doesn't matter about what they WERE". If it didn't matter than it shouldn't constantly be stated.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 03:48 PM) Agreed 100%. But it's a legal contract. How do you have a legal contract without the resources of the state to enforce it.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 03:42 PM) Eh maybe, I dont want my iphone to be any bigger. I want to actually put my phone in my pocket. Right, I like how fast EVO is and would love to try it out, but I don't want a palm pilot in my pocket all day. Same with the windows phone. It's fine if you have a purse, but, I have only pockets.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 27, 2012 -> 03:38 AM) Who gives a flying f*** about hypotheticals? Rose really did tear his ACL and won't be his old self for a while, and the Heat still won with Bosh, their only good big man, playing 30 minutes across 11 games and at less than 100% for the rest of the playoffs. Oh, and the Heat have every important player back and added Ray Allen to hit wide open 3's all year. Seriously, the last two years don't matter. They didn't win, now it's time to move on from that and prepare for when Rose is healthy again. This thread does a great job of making a silly argument, then arguing that we shouldn't be talking about the argument. The point remains that there were two hypothetical places the bulls could go this offseason: stand pat firesale Even though you can't run your org based on the feelings of your players, I can't imagine how Rose would react to them trading away all of his good teammates after he signed a contract. Now he has a legitimate reason to bust his ass to come back better and stronger: one last run with his teammates. Even with all of his competitiveness, I cant imagine what it would feel like to bust your ass year round to get back, after busting your ass for 3 years for the org, only to have it be for a lottery team. The only truly best of both worlds argument would be a Howard trade, where if he leaves you have salary cap relief, if he stays you have the best C int he game. But I just can't imagine the Magic wanting a package of above average, well-paid players in exchange for Howard. They clearly want flexibility, something the Bulls can't really provide. I'd love to hear a legit alternative. But it really just seems like the issue is the bulls didn't sign mayo. But oh well. He doesn't really change the trajectory of the bulls path, anyway.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 30, 2012 -> 02:45 PM) Joe McGrane was going over Liriano on videotape and was showing how is delivery was so inconsistent. When he was straight forward, he said he had a Steve Carlton slider, when he fell to the side, he had no command. He also said Cooper believes in clean angles and will straighten his delivery up, which could pay off huge. It just depends how long it takes. I'm hoping it has to do with interest. I think Liriano was trying to bulk up his next contract with high K rates and it let to him overthrowing and sloppy delivery. But now that he's on a contender, you can make quite a bit more money by pitching well "under pressure" and helping a team get to the playoffs. At least that's what I'm hoping.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 26, 2012 -> 10:18 PM) Ok, well, if that helps you out. Great. The Bulls, even healthy, can't see the Heat. But if you want to give us Rose while subtracting Bosh, sure. The Bulls have a much better chance. There's nobody to kick Carlos Boozer's ass for the 6th straight postseason. Honestly man, why not. If we are playing the hypotheticals, where the bulls did not lose Rose, why can't I compare that situation to what really happened in the rest of the playoffs? But no, that's right, the Heat won 16 straight to win the world everything, they weren't ever vulnerable blah blah blah.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 26, 2012 -> 09:27 PM) Ok, so rose doesn't go down and Bosh still gets hurt? I guess that would've give them a better chance. Does that make you feel any better? Pretty sure I'm allowed to do that, yes. If the Rose-led bulls face heat during that pacers/early boston series I'd feel pretty good. Even would feel good without Noah.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 26, 2012 -> 09:06 PM) Not really. Unless you really believed a broken down, 5 years past his prime Rip Hamilton would've been the difference between losing in the conference finals in 2011 and getting to the finals in 2012. If you really believe that, maybe Reinsdorf really is a genius. How about an injured bosh?

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jul 26, 2012 -> 07:58 PM) That's because they didn't. Once LeBron made up his mind that he was getting his title, that was that. A healthy Bulls (something that doesn't exist, anyway) had no chance at Miami this year. Post-ECF Game 6, I agree, Pre-that, I don't know. I liked us. But I don't think any team, barring that lakers team plus Howard, can beat the heat for the next 2 years. I don't even think wade and Bosh much matter. Lebron hit his peak this past year, and it was everything we were worried it would be. He's Magic/Bird...but an amazing help defender.

So who should we have gotten the past 3 years that another team acquired?

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 26, 2012 -> 06:04 PM) Big difference between getting OKC in round 2 and getting the Atlanta Hawks. The mighty okc thunder that lost in 5 to the Heat, but are still awesome, as opposed to the Bulls who are worthless and can never win.