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QUOTE (kapkomet @ Aug 25, 2010 -> 02:20 AM) That is the most f***ing intelligent thing I have ever read. Here's two different statements, kap: Except you still seem to think that the attention whores are the Muslims. Except you still seem to think that the attention whores are Muslims. That in context denote different things. Here's an example that may be easier: Who broke the pots? Who broke pots?

"the" is an article. Anyway back to intelligent conversation, washington monthly with two great pieces, first: The dropout factories- Talks about colleges woefully failing their jobs in graduating their students (hint: other schools that take much more at risk students do much better jobs) second: the intro to a new way of ranking. I post this in the dem thread because of the amt. of swipes at hedge fund managers. Here is the intro

as soon as the daily show's opening segment is available I am going to post it.

that's because things get built overnight.

QUOTE (3E8 @ Aug 20, 2010 -> 02:46 AM) grooveshark.com This is true, basically picked up where lala left off (probably better since I never understood what or how much i was paying on lala), but it is also a lot of work to put together a list and stuff. I think that's why pandora is nice cause you can just leave it on. Luckily at my work all of our itunes are on a network and i have a bunch of stuff i can listen to all day.

ncaap?

QUOTE (Cali @ Aug 19, 2010 -> 10:15 PM) I've used Pandora and found more than a few new bands/artists I've dug. It depends on your station though, the more obscure the artist/song, the better, because an office mate of mine put on a U2 station and it basically churned out U2, Coldplay, and RHCP non-stop... I've never really had that problem... devo is a good station.

Reverse racism.

What? Muslims are living in New York? ALERT REDSTATE?!?!?!!?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 19, 2010 -> 03:09 PM) I don't know if Ozzie's lost the clubhouse, but he's definitely lost something. His marbles?

QUOTE (since56 @ Aug 19, 2010 -> 03:32 PM) My feelings exactly. If they are so damn good then where are the World Series trophies? I don't buy all the accolades. Such a great organization, when the league was talking about downsizing a few years ago they were one of the candidates. They have a good September record but what about October? For any of you Twin lovers out there I hope their plane goes down with you on it! P.S. This season is not over yet. GO SOX! COol, i hope you die in a car crash on the way to work! FUn?

QUOTE (Rex Kicka** @ Aug 18, 2010 -> 08:21 PM) I've heard the argument that the Burlington Coat Factory mosque would be like putting a Japanese monument right next to Pearl Harbor. I still think that's a shallow argument. Al Qaida attacked us, not Muslims. It's more like getting upset over a Chinese monument because Asians attacked Pearl Harbor.

Politically speaking, there is a reason why pensions could get so huge and bloated in the public sector. It's called punting. And while it could raise some hell to give actual wage increases during a political term, it was easy for them to punt 20-30 years down the line when it wasn't their problem. Over and over.

QUOTE (GoSox05 @ Aug 15, 2010 -> 07:09 PM) So Sharron Angle talked about how great privatized social security was under Augusto Pinochet. I wonder what would happen if Obama came out tomorrow and said he was a big fan of certain policies in Cuba during the 70's. You don't have to go that far, look at the ridicule for ever bringing up how a european gov't might be doing something better, you get the "well why don't you live there" and weakness blah blah. And those gov'ts obviously don't brutalize their populations.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 12, 2010 -> 03:17 PM) In my opinion, yep. And if they are next to me at a bar or at a game, I'll ask them how their first season is going. You are so much better. Man, any hawks fan that feels their stomach drop when the other teams score, not a fan. When the white sox lose to drop out of first place, if you feel emotion, not a fan. You are ridiculous, you are not that great. Nobody gives a s*** if you think you know the right way to cheer for a team, because for a lot of people it's different. It doesn't make it their first year cheering for the team. Everyone knows baseball teams lose games. But it doesn't mean that losing to a team in august in a first place battle isn't painful. And it doesn't mean you are a better fan. It just means you think a lot of yourself.

QUOTE (J.Reedfan8 @ Aug 12, 2010 -> 11:38 PM) Never impressed me at all Marcus. He's a much better producer than a rapper. Been a hip-hop fan for a long time, and other than his earlier work (which wasn't THAT amazing), he has really fallen off. I find this nonsense. I mean really, to me, there is no more elitist music fan in the world than a rap fan. They create this false facade of what rap is, and anyone that doesn't fit that equation is "bad". It's terrible for the genre, they hold everything up and just spit nostalgia about ninety-f***ing-four, but who gives a s***. Kanye's wordplay and flow might not be up to nas or reasonable doubt jay-z era, but his ability to use his medium to move, to speak to people is as good as anyone. His simplicity works. He may be an arrogant piece of s*** in real life encounters, but when he's rapping, he's introspective and honest in ways very few mcs are. I think the kanye hate is always hating some idea of the way a celebrity should be, and they are mistaken. If you want the f***ing jonas brothers, go have them. But this dudes ambition and arrogance is not his problem, it's his biggest asset, because he realizes it and uses it to make great pop songs.

frankly, if we are speaking economics, it doesn't bode well for anti-immigration.

QUOTE (JPN366 @ Aug 12, 2010 -> 04:55 AM) I never thought I'd hear a King Crimson sample in a Kanye West song. you really shouldn't be, he's sampled krautrock legends Can and lame-rock legends Steely Dan. His love of all music is why he's one of my favorites.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 11, 2010 -> 11:01 PM) About 33 countries have birthright citizenship laws Lost, but only Canada and the U.S. out of modern countries. 2 countries built on immigration.

QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Aug 11, 2010 -> 08:03 PM) Also, they are trying to enact laws/reforms that seem to target specific groups, which can be argued has little do with the policy being discussed in this thread. lol

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 11, 2010 -> 06:23 PM) This isn't new - there was fear in this country after 9/11, and shortly after, a significant portion of "the Right" decided that using fear was a great way to get support. So, fearmongering became a major tenet of their marketing scheme. Cheney led the way. And the fear train continues to plow forward. i thought George Bush did a good job post-9/11 of reaching out to Americans who are Muslim. It's certainly taken a turn for the worse lately.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 11, 2010 -> 03:04 PM) IMO, if you need cheering up after losing a few games, I am proud of you that you just got into baseball this year. This is a sport of failure and the team is going to lose at least 60 games every year, its just part of a baseball season. We are still in this for the long run. Oh what a crock. Is there a sport you don't think you are the best fan of?

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 11, 2010 -> 05:34 PM) Yep, because the only immigrants in this country are brown. The only immigrants people are complaining about.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Aug 11, 2010 -> 05:30 PM) Why pigeonhole this to mexicans only? Pretty sure the debate has been "immigrants," which could be any race. Sureeee.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 11, 2010 -> 05:26 PM) Well, there is the republican party saying we should indeed close down the borders, or certain borders anyway. Not in this forum though, at least so far. And those are the people who are more likely to be motivated by racism. fixt. What else has come out recently beside this? I haven't heard anything about support for a guest worker program.