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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 13, 2010 -> 07:55 PM) I know that because of the douchey mcdouchersons down in Miami, this roster probably won't win the Bulls a title, but I still like what I see. Its gonna be an entertaining and competitive basketball team that could make it at least a little bit interesting come playoff time. I'd rather be in NBA hell with this team, then tank the next few years, just to get rejected by FAs and still be a bad basketball team like the Knicks are. i mean, the title season for the celtics saw them go to 7 games in their first two series in the playoffs. SO who knows.

hahaha

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 13, 2010 -> 04:24 PM) Which contract? James for $30 million or Boozer for $28 million? I think reality as I see it is that James for $30 million is actually just about a fair deal, given that he's worth something like $200 million in additional franchise value and revenue to a team. The top guy in the league is probably worth that much. Kobe's probably been worth $30 million a year to the Lakers over the last decade. But beyond those 2 guys...there's maybe 1 more guy in the league who's a $25 million a year level player, and that's Wade. The rest of the players, except MAYBE Howard, belong at or below the current max salary level. But what would wind up happening without a max salary is that guys like Lebron and Wade would get deals that are fair for them unless they decided on this Miami party BS, but just as teams now are dumping crazy money on Tyrus Thomas, Hakim Warrick, Rudy Gay, etc., teams would wind up bidding up Carlos Boozer and Luol Deng up to $20 million in order to make sure no one steals them, and those salaries are already killers even at lower levels (look how badly having Deng and Hinrich to pay has hurt the Bulls even though they've been somewhat productive). It's not guys like Lebron and Kobe getting Max deals that has put the NBA in such financial trouble. It's guys like Thomas getting $10 million a year. It's guys like Deng getting $11 million. It's Joe Johnson and Carlos Boozer getting max or near-max deals. It's Gilbert Arenas getting a max deal, it's Zach Randolph making near max money. It's paying lower tier guys big money so as to tread water that is killing these teams. You land a James, your revenues go through the roof. You land a Boozer for the same money as James, and suddenly your cap is a mess and you're forced to pay the luxury tax to hang onto your backup SG, you finish 4th in the league every year, and you have no idea how you got into such a mess. Sure, I get that, but has any sport really solved that problem? In my perspective it's enhanced in bball because you aren't allowing the market to actually set for the superstars. Since no one really knows what james/kobe are worth, then it makes mores sense to tilt forward than backwards. No one is going to accept "well, lebron only gets 18, so you should get 18". Lebron gets 18 b/c it's capped. I feel like teams have no leverage in that sense, they want a player, and the salary cap in the nba is more like tetris than any other game, add to that that it's not that difficult to move a bad contract because expiring contracts are gold in the NBA.

i'm pretty sure if it was a free for all with a salary cap, you would've seen the money be very high, and each team could've afforded only one and this circus would've never happened.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 13, 2010 -> 04:13 PM) The Draft? I'd respond to that with 2 points. First...if you keep the Bird rights, then Cleveland could have kept upping the ante until no other teams left. Miami could offer him up to the salary cap but no more, then Cleveland could counter with a $30 million a year offer, and frankly, for Cleveland, he'd have been worth it. Second...if you keep the cap in place, I think it makes it more likely that a smaller market can afford a guy like that, because even a team like the Grizz, if they could clear $25-30 mil in cap space, would suddenly have the opportunity to dump it all on one superstar and win the race for him. The problem of course would wind up being that 5 teams would clear max space and somehow the Bulls would wind up paying Carlos Boozer $28 million/year. but quite frankly, considering the amount of players on a basketball team, and the amount of revenue teams make...i just don't see how that isn't a reasonable contract. There is already a cap. That should dictate. This is a stupid system.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jul 13, 2010 -> 05:09 PM) But if you don't impose the max deal there's no way Cleveland ever gets a guy like Lebron. how do you figure?

if there is a sport that should not impose a max deal in addition to a salary cap, it's basketball.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jul 13, 2010 -> 03:02 PM) Before moving to the burbs a couple of months ago, my fiance and I always went to the Duke of Perth. Awesome all you can eat fish n chips deal on Friday (mon or wed too I think), decent beer selection, really good scotch, and a cool atmosphere. A good place to go with friends and talk, not be bombarded by loud music. Also, relatively few douchebags (normally none), which I find is the key to a good bar. They do have good fish and chips, but I have a vendetta against the manager. I would stay out of Lincoln park all together for bars.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jul 13, 2010 -> 03:12 PM) the financial incentive of the 6 year max deal with the home team. and if there was no max deal?

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jul 13, 2010 -> 02:48 PM) why is it his fault? he made the system more difficult for these types of things to happen. how do you figure?

if we had the pitching numbers we had in june for april/may, i'm pretty sure we'd have 2005's record. /end obvious statement of the year.

everyone in missouri when i lived there thought hawk was awesome. Haterz gonna hate.

it's disgusting. kill yourself david stern.

QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ Jul 12, 2010 -> 08:56 PM) And look at the guys that were on those teams. The Celtics had Garnett, one of the best defensive players of the last 15 years, the Knicks had guys like Ewing, Oakley, Camby and Kurt Thomas, all of whom were damn good interior defenders (not to mention the Knicks led the league in defensive efficiency the 3 years before he got there), and the Rockets had Yao, who is in the top-10 in active career defensive rating and around the top-30 in defensive win shares even with all of the injuries (admittedly the Rockets work is a bit more impressive). There's no question he'll help, but you need more than just Noah to be an elite defensive team. so you can list one person on other teams as the sole reason that team was good on defense, but then you list one person on the bulls team (who is a great defender) and qualify it saying that's not enough. Maybe in Thibs years working with great defenders, he learned how to get the most of that talent. Because frankly, there is more to the celts great d than garnett.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 12, 2010 -> 09:11 PM) I really think Redick is actually on the upswing. He'll be a real nice asset, imo. Does he make us a championship team, no, but he makes us better and gives us an even better shot at being a top 3/4 team in the East. Dan bernstein was reading the vegas odds on the bulls on friday and they were shockingly good. It sucks that adding a 20/10 player and 2 sharp shooters to your team still feels so empty. F the NBA

400 is a hell of a drug

I think another edition of: why the heat will be awesome is that teams with great players tend to make pretty avg. players look much better than they are. Pretty much every guy in the NBA can just hit a shot unguarded. What makes these players so special is their ability to hit extraordinary shots with dudes bumping and putting their hands in their face. But when you have 3 great scorers on the floor at the same time, you are going to get a lot of great looks because teams just can't focus you.

eh, Deron was way better, dee just drove to the hoop a lot more.

QUOTE (GoodAsGould @ Jul 12, 2010 -> 04:22 PM) Not too mention he is a really similar player to Korver, I dont see the point of having both. we need guards, and considering most all of our good offense is only good within 15 ft, getting great shooters is worth the cash.

welcome to keith law. However, I have looked at our lineup many times and said "how the hell has this team won (insert # of wins) out of (insert #of games played)"

i won't take this fantastic fit for our team because you went to a college I don't like.

QUOTE (LVSoxFan @ Jul 12, 2010 -> 02:52 PM) Some of you have been around longer than I, but I can't ever recall a Sox season where they turned it around so quickly--and to do it, get into first, on the eve of the ASB is just poetic. Just last month I was complaining here that we never seem to ever put any STREAKS together, the past few years. Done, and done. If we can get through the Twins/California road trip with a winning record, I think people should be scared of us. In 2001 we had a streak in june where we went 22-7 to fight back to above .500 but then just kind of hung around .500 while the twins had their coming out party. That said, our pitching is much better than in 2001. Such a weak rotation except for buerhle's awesome rookie season.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Jul 12, 2010 -> 02:59 PM) i just want us all to take a moment and look at this statement. unbelievable. if I said that last year my entire family would have been ashamed.

god, do you guys watch the NBA? The only time there have been upsets in the playoffs was when there was 5-game series, and they removed them specifically for that reason. Yes the bulls have a good team, but in any other sport that would mean they could make the championship. But not in basketball. The heat with 3 superstars and a bunch of scrubs will be unreal good. This is way better than ray allen and garnett a bit past their primes. They are all in their prime. You don't need a deep bunch when you have three players that will play 35-40 mins. per game. It's over.

QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Jul 9, 2010 -> 02:27 AM) Delonte West is the first picture on the Cavs site right now. ohhh, stupid slideshow