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One thing difficult about being a sox fan is we've never really been a big second half team. so it's hard not to think we'll just be clawing a few games over .500. So, like, modern era sox. 2021 we were 5 or so games over .500. 2012, 1 game under. 2010 chase -> 3 games over .500 2008 -> 2 games over 2006 -> 8 games under .500 2005 -> 8 games over .500, nearly consumed by CLE 2003 -> 41-27 probably our most second-half team. Took over the KCR in august before fading to twins 2002 -> 4 games over 2000 -> 5 games over (1st half dominance) 1998 - 45-31 So the last 23 years we've never had this big second half dominance. We have a lot of what we've seen so far, hanging really tough. But meanwhile the guardians and twins, tigers and royals have had very memorable scorchers. The performances I saw this weekend makes me think we could go on a run, but that's where some of this comes from. Feels like we'll be clawing around .500 and hoping to hang on - I wanted some big guns.

man this is like catnip for bob. He's probably tearing up while writing this

100%. But it's also why, again, I didn't care about catcher. I wanted to get a guy that every 5 days we'd feel very good about. But all of our pitchers are turning it around.

I think most of his negative defense comes from framing...which kind of a who cares for me now.

Yeah, that guy is their engine and this is a 02 konerko level tailspin. For baseball I hope he recovers.

Giants are starting to loosen up. Miller was a good get.

listen from 2014-2017 people kept trying to do this thing where they'd tell me going from really bad to just a little bad was a huge deal, but then the guy who had been just a little bad would come and be pretty bad, and the really bad would revert. You either upgrade with a no doubt starter or you are shuffling hot hands. WE have one more guy to shuffle. That's cool. I didn't really care about catcher, I wanted a top pitcher, a no doubt one we could be pumped about. Instead we got another guy to shuffle if he gets hot. With Fedde and Schultz looking good this weekend, it's not that amazing to me. Oh and we got bort from colorado.

I mean that's cool but 40-50 points higher from the 9 spot is like...not that noticeable.

Do I think we are actually much better than Friday? No. But if you just wanted to leave this without feeling too hurt, you probably are ok. If, like me, you think teams should try to get better during the deadline, you may be disappointed.

I mean, obviously we gave up nothing to buy bart. You shoulnd't need to give up stuff for a backup catcher.

oh, thought he had a 3 year deal in 25

I think it's reasonable to think Quero would revert to something like a lot of these catchers would get you, save Stevenson. That said, we got several players that I think I'd have to squint to say are definitely, definitely gonna be better than what they were replacing.

I feel the most FOMO for this deal. Control is only cool so long as they also achieve your 2026 goals. If you miss the playoffs then have the guy for 'next 2 years' - cool...but you also have more options to plug the next year in the offseason. Rentals are great.

As we saw from the earlier deal from Angels: The Mets are receiving infielder Jefferson Rojas, the Cubs' No. 2 prospect. backend 2, strong 3 starting pitcher with control = top infield prospect. The good news, is that's really all it takes. I'd guess wiht detmers, they will eventually just take the best total position prospect they can get, and others are still trying ot make it up in quality volume or pitching.

I didn't really want holmes that bad but also i am sad.

two teams I thought would sell more than they have so far: giants reds

Gotta tell you as a fan I'd just feel sick knowing how close the Blue Jays were to a title, and now having to make some big moves to find its footing with this core again. Crazy considering they nailed the Cease signing.

naw that's our buddy bort doyle

MLB prices continue to be so weird but the main thing seems to be a huge discrepancy in costs for trading under 30, 'successful' position players v. pitchers, and also the huge value for position player prospects vs. pitching prospects.

I unno. We have all these teams who aren’t full on waiving a white flag. We have a roster crunch, he is meh on defense in RF and pereira is meh cf. I could see it with how things have gone

I would guess it’s because as fans we will underrate stuff like speed and holding runners . If we were 10 games up I’d be ok with this.

s%*# I hope they aren’t trading antonacci

But the major leagues has featured young players getting better which is a big deal. Also underrated how a player like bonemer becoming a top 30 prospect is pretty rare for the last 25 years of Sox baseball.