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I know it was a terrible start for him and he's been much better since June, but do think it's notable for all the struggles Jose Rodriguez is only at a 15% krate in birmingham. His BABIP is lower, and yeah, power down. But I wonder if he's really tried to cut down on the K's.

Tatis and Soto were up at 20 years old, you don't do that because of player development. They were going to be MLB baseball players.

you think the people drafting him wanted to send him straight to big leagues as a reliever and never let him develop his third pitch or endurance in the imors? Or was the white sox bullpen and pitching collapsing in 2020 and the sox took a gamble they had a hard time unwinding once he was a good reliever? https://theathletic.com/1871512/2020/06/15/how-white-sox-draft-pick-garrett-crochet-matured-into-a-most-valuable-weapon/ First-year White Sox scouting director Mike Shirley made the call to take Crochet at No. 11 with the naked intent that he will be a future rotation cog, but that gamble is regarded as a bold leap of faith that divided scouts. “He put his cojones on the table,” Vitello said of Shirley. “I think he’s going to be rewarded for it.” ... Anderson thinks Crochet’s frame could still support another 10 pounds acquired through a major league strength program and has been sending his pupil big-league baseballs so that he can get used to the feel of them on his fingers. But he doesn’t think the White Sox should rush Crochet up to the majors to live off his fastball-slider combination. But yeah sure it was always the plan.

you are not actually conversing with me.

To some extent I find bulls offseason lead ups a bit boring because I don't quite believe any chatter. I assume stuff will happen. I hope good. We need shooting galore. But we also need health. Williams really hasn't shown much, but he really is young and had too many starts and stops. He's on a different timeline though, good bait.

I don't have a problem with Paddy per se, I think Hahn is the problem in letting each unit run independent strategies and not trying to make any complement each other. Look at crochet, to me that's a big sign of lack of cohesion in decision making in pd vs. scouting vs. gm. Hostetler and Paddy were both generating older prospects and left a gaping chasm after the main graduations. Shirley and Paddy are both going after top talent and running some very small classes. Paddy definitely got INTL scouting up and running. It doesn't run exactly the way I like, but for the most part when Paddy values a guy higher than BA or some other group indicates other team did, I tend to beleive paddy is right. He also doesn't run PD, so who knows how much extra buffer could happen. But at this point, the guy put his neck down on Tatis, Robert, Abreu, tried hard for Soto. I didn't think Yolbert had a chance to be decent based on his Cuban stats, now he's on verge of a long mlb career (still wouldn't have paid him 2.5 mill and made him our own class, but eh).

For me it is fun how this has played out. Probably unfairly, but I sort of separate out the Cuban pipeline from the rest of our INTL process. They pay a premium (esp in Robert, Abreu case) and are getting older, more established prospects. But in 2017 Paddys tenure outside abreu had shown zilch, especially in the position player side. Our top signings in 2015 were awful in DSL ball, let alone when they finally made it stateside. Adolfo was more of an idea than a player (I believe this was his breakout year in 2017). Players rarely made it past A ball. Yolmer was the last guy we had make it up and I think he was signed in that no mans land after wilder? So it was significant when Sosa showed up in AZL as a 16/17 year old and was not striking out 40% of the time, and getting contact with his decent average. He finally seemed like a guy who may make it to the show. After that, he moved up like clockwork, rarely wowing but always surviving some very difficult jumps and extremely young for his levels. But as he was going through that, we started actually getting really shiny objects that stole his thunder. Ramos came in with some actual power. Baileys first year in DSL, Mieses return to A ball, Yolbert's AA year, Misael Gonzalez. And we kinda missed Sosa last year really starting to put up some solid A+ numbers. And then out of nowhere this year happens. So it's funny to me Sosa way back in 2017 finally being something to latch onto as the first guy that may actually have some MLB run, and here he is, actually that. He beat Adolfo to the show. He beat Yolbert. He beat Ramos. And once again he did it by just showing incredible resilience, durability, resilience and maturity to handle big challenges. Hopefully that translates to the big leagues.

Excellent first Sosa conversation lol @flavum @fathom @BigHurt3515

don't let gio pitch day games especially after a late night. Just begging for this.

Wow another Godwin Bennett Home Run and the first home run for Guillermo Rodriguez, a 17 y.o. SS out of Venezuela

Based on last month I'd expect some end of month movement/notes from BA

IIIIIIIaaaannnnn Happ that's his name that's the player we'll beg for when we strike out lots lots more and end up saying vogelbach's the cure

Maybe the blue jays pitchers should have taken advantage of the extremely obvious outside zone more often.

terrible article.

Hahaha that Colas homer. Impressive that stayed fair. That had to be a 150 mph exit velo

@2Deep welcome to draft talk

haha this is so good

erick hernandez and ryan burrowes both with a double today. And loidell 1-3 with a BB and two SBs. Very straightforward 1-0 game so far.

The confidence in his offspeed stuff is the highlight, imho

for anyone that missed it, mena is moving up to A+. Doubt anyone on this forum did, but just in case!

I don't think Shirley's tendencies are similar to the white sox previous record. People were good on COlson last year because the sox were clearly high on him, but the writers "profile" of who the sox will take seems off. The "sound familiar?" is ...meh. Not that compelling to me. The SOUND FAMILIAR? pick had them all circling Jered Kendall to the sox too.

I wasn't surprised Sainz couldn't close even with the pace. I watched Leclerc unable to pass Ocon for like 20 laps within DRS the whole time, I am not sure but I don't even think he passed him until he pitted. It looked close but max basically said he never even really needed to defend. Was bummed about Haas. We all went into sunday thinking we might see Micks first points. He ended up, with checo, retiring right under us.

Ah yeah I must have read his slugging as his OPS. Not a great sign he repeated DSL but he’s making the most of it now.

Wow that is rare