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It has taken a few weeks, but I've come to terms with the fact that Rodon was our last pitcher of significance and anyone else will be of our brad penny variety.

In what world do you guys actually believe a QB will be available then? The Vikings built a dominant OL and DL, then tried to figure out QB. They couldn't do it in time and that dominant OL and DL started to diminish. The Bears in 2018 certainly seemed like it had a pretty good OL and DL. 2 years later it fell apart. When the Vikes needed a QB they just had to trade a first for one right? They got Sam Bradford. Cool. Maybe you can't time things as well as you guys think.

I'm not sure the whole "bears fan watches the super bowl and confirms all prior convictions on the bears" is that compelling to me. To read the board you would believe simultaneously that: - The 8-8 team was derailed by terrible QB play that the GM/coach should be fired for - Also fixing the QB won't matter that much because the rest of the team is trash - Also adding Tom Brady wouldn't have mattered I think it's more likely than not that the defense can recover to top ten next year with a lot of the improvements coming internally. There are assumptions we don't yet know about a potential trade including: - It will cost a 2021 first round pick - It will cost the bears to lose Arob - Both the salary cap and loss of pick cause bears to have a worse Oline next year But the first bullet and second bullet could easily not be true. It may very well be a next year first. For the Eagles, that may be fine because it saves them a first round salary and they are already taking it in the teeth on cap hit for a year. For Robinson, they have the franchise. And if they franchise and then trade him, I'm confident they get a decent return + can open up quite a bit of salary. But they wouldn't do that because the WR market isn't good, so unless they get a first round pick And as for the oline, I think that was the very biggest bright spot at the end of the year. The interior of Whitehair-Mustipher-Bars was much better, and they get to swap out Bars with James Daniels. And if they keep a first round pick, they are likely to be able to have two shots at a good tackle in either round 1 or 2 (or take two bites of the apple). Add to that, it's a good draft for WR talent. This likely does not lead up to a super bowl. But the Bears are not rebuilding this year. I would have liked them to, and had they tanked, they could be looking at a new administration + Trey Lance or Josh Fields. But they aren't. They didn't tank because it turned out they had young talent on their offensive line, an interesting young tight end, young RB that hit his promise, darnell mooney + allen f'n robinson. And for all the handwringing about leaving scorched earth for next admin, there is also in my mind a good possibility that Wentz is actually a top 12 QB and borderline top 10 QB, which if the defense truly sucks next year, the next admin would be leaving either an answer at QB, or a trade asset that will stock the cupboards quickly. Trading a QB with 3 years + only a first year of guaranteed cash? That would be a huge asset. And if he sucks, they can move on next year. True, they may be out a first round pick, but they'd be wise to strip down anyway. And what are the alternatives that don't "hurt the future" but also live in the reality that pace+nagy WILL try to improve the QB situation. Fitzpatrick? As I've said before, maybe if Bridgewater is cut, that would be the one nice stop gap. Anyway, I think nfl chatter is way too front running. Just full goldfish memory and shouting that the current best team was the way everyone should do it, and when that team falls apart just proof that they weren't doing it the way the new best team is. The Chiefs are proof that the Bears shouldn't try to upgrade their QB? That team is loaded with talent, but had some unfortunate injuries. It happens. The Bears last year were the Buccaneers. The Rams this year were the buccaneers. But Tom Brady didn't want to go there. Now the Bears are a trash team full of trash that proves my theories about team building.

I don't think Zach will net you a boatload of picks that will be all that valuable. I'd much rather hear they sign him to an extension at this point.

50k yesterday. I believe will be not great today

I watched Wentz 2019 highlight reel. Lord help me. Now I’ll be disappointed if they don’t get him.

Yeah especially the red zone production in that article makes you drool. I get your point on the first rounder. My preference for next year is partly how this draft lines up so well. It has a lot of tackle and WR talent, and you don’t know what next year will be. OTOH, you could use that as a reason you don’t need a first this year. Either way, I’m sold on Wentz. But they have to keep Arob, and get oline talent.

Yeah, I’m partly going on sentiment of last year. I can’t say I watched much. The numbers were good but could have been garbage time stats, etc. Im pretty sure the “trade down” package is garbage rumor. I’m really just kinda hoping it’s not a 2021 first. Aside from team building, I just want to enjoy a damn draft lol.

Last year he did. In 2019 Aaron Rodgers led the league in bad throw %. The question is whether Wentz is as bad as last year, only as good as 2019, or 2017 good still in there somewhere.

Missed that eagles would give back their second. I’d be really good with this. That’s net -$16 million, which is manageable.

Gonna be up to local jurisdictions

I ... kinda like Wentz. Bears aren’t in a good position regardless, it doesn’t really hurt long term. And the situation was legit awful. If he ends up being a 12-14 QB and you want to move on, you could have a great contract with no guaranteed money to send out. I just really don’t trust NFL fan orthodoxy anymore. And I’ve just not really seen a qb as good as Wentz was lose it to that point. I also think the complete dismissal of Mac Jones as just a product of the talent around him has a good chance of being the new big draft groupthink that ends up wrong.

I don’t understand why Oakland did that

And the mets offer was 3/105 so I think @southsider2k5 wins the thread.

exactly this.

Most of the national writers like morosi, feinsand, etc fall into the trap on stuff like this of thinking about what would make sense for white sox to add at the expense of them considering what the white sox are likely to add when you consider their owner. That said, I think Ozuna did an incredible job last year, but I would be incredibly annoyed spending 15 mill plus on a DH rather than using that toward another good reliable pitcher or some additional toward a more reliable outfielder.

No the issue is money.

I think the bigger issue is not being able to scrape together $3 million if their scouting likes a guy to rebound.

Bye bye jose ruiz

I mean lopez or Crochet with Rodon moving into bullpen. It's eating this flex fifth starter position which is about whether people believe that Rodon deserves that handed to him.

I don't know. This doesn't seem optimal to me but also isn't like, obviously bad. It's just very risky.

These contracts don't seem that bad to me. You don't take on the signing bonuses in a trade.

I mean, I picked guys that were likely to make 3 million or less. So in that case, I suppose we take Rodon. I'm just not ever going to be nice to hard carl.

I think that was partly resolved last weekend it just got crushed because of the snow storm. Saturday was pretty good.