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Right, I think that would be too much for lynn, but I just think it's closer to a Lynn package with headliners than Woodruff. I don't see why the Brewers would do that deal without getting a big time cost controlled bat.

The only chatter was among #whitesoxtwitter personalities, and the board has never really let that go. Brewers fans were laughing it off. That said, there are so many teams going for it, I could see why people target brewers as one of the teams that could trade a high impact player. But I think that package is closer to a Lance Lynn package than Woodruff.

Absolutely incredible.

Tough part about trades is everyone is going for it. Maybe Burdi is thought of highly still, but our best trade pieces are bullpen. I don't see matches for teams like Yanks, maybe they go for thompson/dalquist levels.

Rockies trading Marquez to infuse their expensive, weak hitting offense for Nick Madrigal is just the rockies kind of move I need. And then I guess they ship Brendan Rodgers to the ...outfield

Yeah gifs don't work for some reason.

The way that they had "the white sox, the new mets" was not intended, but should maybe be intended that way.

White Sox are short on pitching because they have Lopez.

How many assholes does Sam Fuld want to work for in his career?

who cares if it's fake or not, it's throwing out names that are players in baseball and we can discuss whether we'd want them, would trade for them, etc. There isn't anything else going on beside our manager risking people's lives. Fake insiders >> TLR.

Ah, so it isn't "sox will spend more" with larussa, it's "sox will be desperate for immediate upgrades but not with money so they will trade prospects for short term deals, and then next year they will also not have more budget so they will then be trading for Mike Leake and acting like they are world series contenders" Phew!

Oh i get what you are saying. Yeah, there are not a lot of teams that are a fit for Madrigal. Especially outside of our division.

I wonder if TLR called him.

Depends how much money Katz is throwing into the pot to help sign him.

When you can be replaced with Wong and Hernandez not sure you are untouchable.

I don't know what all in on analytics means or even matters, but when working with Giolito he found him all the support, tools, and technology needed to overhaul his mechanics in one offseason. He seems to get the trust of the pitchers he works with, which is the A1 responsibility here: "The biggest thing I learned early was getting the players to trust you," he said. "You have to make sure they know it's about them and it's not about you. Once that happened, it was pretty easy. That was something I focused on -- building the relationships." After the high school season, in the summers of 2011 and 2012, Katz served as pitching coach of the La Crosse [Wisconsin] Loggers in the collegiate wood-bat Northwoods League. Andy McKay, who became a mental skills coach in the Rockies system in 2012 and was named the Mariners director of player development in October 2015, was the Loggers manager at the time. In Katz's second season with the Loggers, Tyler Servais, son of then-Angels assistant GM and current Mariners manager Scott Servais, was the team's catcher. https://www.milb.com/news/gcs-177671770 Just unbelievable luck (well, that's a very wealthy school, but still) the coaching group that was put together for Fried, Giolito and Flaherty in high school.

Good hire

I'd definitely give up Kopech for players. Giving him up for lynn? Silly. Regardless of whether I think Kopech could still be good, you lose that bullet for another deal, and I can't imagine Lynn is the best option here.

This is just the funny-because-it's-sad part of the thing. How could they justify any punishment when they hired him after knowing? So why do they care the outcome? Unless you are telling me that TLR told them he was not the one driving, and it was all a mistake and the truth would come to light, there is no way they care about any of it. And by they I mean he.

I think I agree with this? It kind of depends on if the Mets go hard after Realmuto or Springer. But I'd expect it to be Realmuto, with Springer look at an Upton-like contract? I just feel pretty good about the mid-level pitchers this year on short deals while we sort out our rotation.

I broke down and actually sent an email. The taunting of the sox fans with the staying silent and hiding behind not commenting until it plays out as if they are a party in the case is such a slap in the face.

Ah, the illusion that the outcome of this case matters one bit to Jerry.

I would be thrilled if we signed bauer, but I actually am fine with Gausman/Odorizzi. Neither prevent us from doing anything at any other time, could be traded easily, and will be productive. Though, Odorizzi may be a little risky for innings, but he also could be a buy low candidate.

This is a funny offseason for pitchers. To me there is a somewhat clear set of tiers, like an easy to translate "$15" game. I guess I would put it as budget of $5, and you need to sign 2 pitchers, regardless of what you think of signing two. $4 - Bauer $3 - Morton, Gausman (I have to assume right?), Tanaka, Paxton, Quintana $2 - Walker, Minor, Odorizzi, Kluber, Archer, Lester $1 - Anything else