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QUOTE(hi8is @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 05:53 PM) so with lackey starting today vs. the yankees... its possible that NY wins, forcing a game 5 im assuming they throw colon for 5. that means their best 2 starters wouldnt be able to go until game 3 or so. Correct.

QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 03:46 PM) I thought he was a Cubs fan. Am I wrong? He's sung the 7th inning stretch a few times at wrigley, he's a bandwagoner.

QUOTE(fathom @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 03:32 PM) I can see a situation where the Sox would bring Marte in (to face a guy he's owned in the past like G. Anderson). I see no reason to have Viz on the roster over McCarthy. The thing about lefty pitchers is that it's not always about how they are vs lefty batters. Sometimes, it's the opposite of that which is important. Some lefty hitters lose a lot of power when they have to face other lefties due to changes in their swings, as well as turning some switch hitters over. Isn't Chone a lot better against righties? It doesn't matter at this point, they can go up there with the bat on their shoulders and be on first base.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 03:26 PM) than KW should talk to him about this. You can't go by your gut all the time. He doesnt have to look at stats at all in this situation, he just has to watch the games.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 03:16 PM) If our ALCS chances come down to Marte, I think we're f***ed anyways. Move on. That's the f***in thing that worries me, it really could, we could easily lose a game or two because of Damaso.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 03:04 PM) and then when he gets into a mess another reliever bailing him out. That's been damaso's speciality this year.

I think that ozzie wont pitch damaso at home cause he gets booed says it all.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:57 PM) Where's Viz? Oh i forgot, he can't get Lh's or Rh's out. He's Great. :rolly Hooray for him having a better era then Marte this season and being pretty damn good after the allstar break.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:55 PM) OPS against LH batters Jenks: .414 McCarthy: .602 Politte: .579 Hermanson: .721 Marte: .767 So much for being a lefty specialist. Keeping Marte off the roster will prevent Ozzie from making the mistake of using Marte against a left hander. We have 4 right handers who are better than Marte against left handers. Tell me again why we must have Marte ready if a left hander steps up? Please post that great obp of Damaso's against lefties, that disgusts me more then anything, he really can't get lefties out.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:34 PM) This is actaully kinda cool. Im in Texas right now, so its kind of more exciting being like close. Does that mean you're giving me you're alcs tix since you stuck in texas. Thanks.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:46 PM) Can someone please venture a guess as to why Damaso is used time and time again over Cotts. Is it because Ozzie doesn't like Neal? Does he not like his hair? Does he have a thing against Illinois State. Ozzie does the things he does for A REASON. Yes, I know it's VERY easy to criticize Ozzie's managerial decisions. Sometimes, those criticisms couldn't be more spot on. But, you can do that for each and every manager in baseball. Honestly, you think if we were Card fans or Yankee fans or Padre fans or Devil Ray fans we wouldn't question the manager? Of course we would. You could do that of any manager in baseball. They keep guys around and use them for a reason. Let's not throw Marte under the bus just yet. That's all. We would all like to know that. Neal has been one of the best relievers in baseball this season, Damaso is horrible, period. This is the major reason a lot of us have been hard on Oz this season.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:46 PM) Where's Viz? Not being used, a good chance damaso would be, that's the problem.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:42 PM) Cotts is spent. You'd rather see........ Cliff, Dustin, Bobby, the Duke.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:40 PM) There are some things in baseball that can be very dumbed down to understand. This is one of them. Marte cant get anyone out. LH, RH, Batboys, ME, anyone.(Alright, Maybe me.) Just because McCarthy is on the roster doesnt mean they are going to use Brandon in the same situation they would use Marte. It would probably mean we see more of Cotts, which is think is what we all want. He needs to be off the roster. Exactly, Basically the same thing I just said the post under yours, if Damaso is on the roster he's in danger of being used cause of that damn left hand of his. Viz will only be used if we run out of pitchers some how. No damaso means more cotts, more cotts means more outs.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:38 PM) This is the playoffs. There is no need for Viz whatsoever in a close game. Don't forget that you can use starter's in relief if necessary. Viz's only use to me is mopup, and McCarthy should fill that role. So once again, you would rather have damaso in the bullpen in danger of being used cause he throws with his left hand when he can't get a left handed batter out, instead of a guy who will be in the pen and not used unless it's a must, and if it's a must he's a much better guy to have in the pen then damaso to throw an inning or two.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:34 PM) No, I think you guys are right. Again, Ozzie has nothing on armchair, Soxtalk managerial committee. For ages, it has been believed that left hander pitchers have an inherant advantage versus left handed batters. But, let's live and die by those stats and trot out a guy like Vizcaino over a left handed reliever--and one, that, if on his game, can be one of the best left handed relievers in all of baseball--because Marte "can't get anybody out." Believe me, I'm far from leading the Damaso Marte fan club, but I don't understand why the argument isn't one of Vizcaino versus McCarthy instead of Marte versus McCarthy. Time out here. I'm far from a stat guy so don't even try to put that on me, second it doesn't take a sabermetician to figure out Damaso can't get a f***in lefty out, Damaso can't get a f***in batter out. He comes in, throws 2 strikes then just walks the guy on the next 4 pitches. Damaso was one of the best relievers in baseball two years ago, right now he sucks, period.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:29 PM) Viz's splits are horrendous. You want Vizcaino out there facing a LH instead of Marte? Ok I meant if those two are the last two left in the bullpen then I want viz out there for an inning much more then I want damaso out there for an inning. Viz's splits against lefties are definitely not good, Damaso's suck as well though.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:27 PM) I look at it 100% differently. What, are you a mem ber of the White Sox? Having a 35 jersey, or 56 just tells everyone who your favorite player is, or that you appreciate the work that player has put in. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:25 PM) Viz is way worse vs. Lh's than Marte....... Can we all just agree we don't want to see either guy, period. No doubt, but if the situation comes to it, I'd much rather have viz out there then damaso.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:09 PM) He has to be on the roster. I'm sorry. Having him off the roster just doesn't make a lick of sense. One left handed reliever in the ALCS...errrr...I dunno. Ask the 2002 angels how important it is to have 2 lefties in the bullpen.

WOW, 2 out nobody on in the bottom of the 9th and brad ausmus goes yard to tie it.

Berkman goes granny, stros attempting to come back, it was 6 to 1, now it's 6 to 5 in the 8th with 1 out.

We have no nation and we have no curse, espn is trying to tag those things on us cause the cubs and sawx are gone and they need something to talk about.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 12:54 PM) But At least Marte has the ability to come in and get out a tough LH, But he really doesnt.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 12:42 PM) Have you not realized Viz is f***ING useless Being useless is so much better then being used in situations where you can't get outs.