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QUOTE(Art Vandelay @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 08:46 PM) Well, #30 Ordonez means even less now. At least your name and favorite # will always remain! I got one of those too, not authentic though.

Interesting, odd move by Torre here. Rivera in for the 8th but bernie goes into center and tino at first, the yankees have lost their dh for the rest of this game.

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 03:15 PM) Someone pull up those "Are you in or out?" threads that were going around 2 and 3 weeks ago. Ya think they might be an interesting read right about now? I was just reading that thread for the hell of it, there are quite a few bandwagon fans in that thread.

I betcha Hideki hits the ball hard somewhere.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 07:42 PM) If anyone thinks that Ozzie is going to put marte in that situation again instead of Neal you must be crazy. He is now relegated to last guy in the pen. And he is only there in case, thats it. How do you know that?? Nobody knows that, that should have happened a long time ago but oz kept running him out there in crucial situations only to f*** up time after time.

QUOTE(rudylaw @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 07:42 PM) http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/bvsp...amId=3&sort=avg Marte vs the Angels in his Career. As long as he does not pitch to Anderson the numbers are pretty good. Don't get me wrong I DO NOT Marte in the roster but the numbers don't lie. Damaso used to be one of the best relievers in baseball as well, now...he sucks.

QUOTE(hi8is @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 06:03 PM) says what source? Just some things I've heard, nothing is official yet but it's a definite possibility they'll push back game 1 if the yanks win tonight. That would not make me happy.

QUOTE(Stocking @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 05:58 PM) what is the likely hood if this series goes 5 that Tuesday's game gets pushed back. I have game one tickets but leave for vegas Wednesday morning. Ill be so pissed if they push game one back. Unfortunately it sounds like this might be a possibility.

QUOTE(hi8is @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 05:53 PM) so with lackey starting today vs. the yankees... its possible that NY wins, forcing a game 5 im assuming they throw colon for 5. that means their best 2 starters wouldnt be able to go until game 3 or so. Correct.

QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 03:46 PM) I thought he was a Cubs fan. Am I wrong? He's sung the 7th inning stretch a few times at wrigley, he's a bandwagoner.

QUOTE(fathom @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 03:32 PM) I can see a situation where the Sox would bring Marte in (to face a guy he's owned in the past like G. Anderson). I see no reason to have Viz on the roster over McCarthy. The thing about lefty pitchers is that it's not always about how they are vs lefty batters. Sometimes, it's the opposite of that which is important. Some lefty hitters lose a lot of power when they have to face other lefties due to changes in their swings, as well as turning some switch hitters over. Isn't Chone a lot better against righties? It doesn't matter at this point, they can go up there with the bat on their shoulders and be on first base.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 03:26 PM) than KW should talk to him about this. You can't go by your gut all the time. He doesnt have to look at stats at all in this situation, he just has to watch the games.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 03:16 PM) If our ALCS chances come down to Marte, I think we're f***ed anyways. Move on. That's the f***in thing that worries me, it really could, we could easily lose a game or two because of Damaso.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 03:04 PM) and then when he gets into a mess another reliever bailing him out. That's been damaso's speciality this year.

I think that ozzie wont pitch damaso at home cause he gets booed says it all.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:57 PM) Where's Viz? Oh i forgot, he can't get Lh's or Rh's out. He's Great. :rolly Hooray for him having a better era then Marte this season and being pretty damn good after the allstar break.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:55 PM) OPS against LH batters Jenks: .414 McCarthy: .602 Politte: .579 Hermanson: .721 Marte: .767 So much for being a lefty specialist. Keeping Marte off the roster will prevent Ozzie from making the mistake of using Marte against a left hander. We have 4 right handers who are better than Marte against left handers. Tell me again why we must have Marte ready if a left hander steps up? Please post that great obp of Damaso's against lefties, that disgusts me more then anything, he really can't get lefties out.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:34 PM) This is actaully kinda cool. Im in Texas right now, so its kind of more exciting being like close. Does that mean you're giving me you're alcs tix since you stuck in texas. Thanks.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:46 PM) Can someone please venture a guess as to why Damaso is used time and time again over Cotts. Is it because Ozzie doesn't like Neal? Does he not like his hair? Does he have a thing against Illinois State. Ozzie does the things he does for A REASON. Yes, I know it's VERY easy to criticize Ozzie's managerial decisions. Sometimes, those criticisms couldn't be more spot on. But, you can do that for each and every manager in baseball. Honestly, you think if we were Card fans or Yankee fans or Padre fans or Devil Ray fans we wouldn't question the manager? Of course we would. You could do that of any manager in baseball. They keep guys around and use them for a reason. Let's not throw Marte under the bus just yet. That's all. We would all like to know that. Neal has been one of the best relievers in baseball this season, Damaso is horrible, period. This is the major reason a lot of us have been hard on Oz this season.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:46 PM) Where's Viz? Not being used, a good chance damaso would be, that's the problem.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:42 PM) Cotts is spent. You'd rather see........ Cliff, Dustin, Bobby, the Duke.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:40 PM) There are some things in baseball that can be very dumbed down to understand. This is one of them. Marte cant get anyone out. LH, RH, Batboys, ME, anyone.(Alright, Maybe me.) Just because McCarthy is on the roster doesnt mean they are going to use Brandon in the same situation they would use Marte. It would probably mean we see more of Cotts, which is think is what we all want. He needs to be off the roster. Exactly, Basically the same thing I just said the post under yours, if Damaso is on the roster he's in danger of being used cause of that damn left hand of his. Viz will only be used if we run out of pitchers some how. No damaso means more cotts, more cotts means more outs.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:38 PM) This is the playoffs. There is no need for Viz whatsoever in a close game. Don't forget that you can use starter's in relief if necessary. Viz's only use to me is mopup, and McCarthy should fill that role. So once again, you would rather have damaso in the bullpen in danger of being used cause he throws with his left hand when he can't get a left handed batter out, instead of a guy who will be in the pen and not used unless it's a must, and if it's a must he's a much better guy to have in the pen then damaso to throw an inning or two.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:34 PM) No, I think you guys are right. Again, Ozzie has nothing on armchair, Soxtalk managerial committee. For ages, it has been believed that left hander pitchers have an inherant advantage versus left handed batters. But, let's live and die by those stats and trot out a guy like Vizcaino over a left handed reliever--and one, that, if on his game, can be one of the best left handed relievers in all of baseball--because Marte "can't get anybody out." Believe me, I'm far from leading the Damaso Marte fan club, but I don't understand why the argument isn't one of Vizcaino versus McCarthy instead of Marte versus McCarthy. Time out here. I'm far from a stat guy so don't even try to put that on me, second it doesn't take a sabermetician to figure out Damaso can't get a f***in lefty out, Damaso can't get a f***in batter out. He comes in, throws 2 strikes then just walks the guy on the next 4 pitches. Damaso was one of the best relievers in baseball two years ago, right now he sucks, period.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:29 PM) Viz's splits are horrendous. You want Vizcaino out there facing a LH instead of Marte? Ok I meant if those two are the last two left in the bullpen then I want viz out there for an inning much more then I want damaso out there for an inning. Viz's splits against lefties are definitely not good, Damaso's suck as well though.