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QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:46 PM) Can someone please venture a guess as to why Damaso is used time and time again over Cotts. Is it because Ozzie doesn't like Neal? Does he not like his hair? Does he have a thing against Illinois State. Ozzie does the things he does for A REASON. Yes, I know it's VERY easy to criticize Ozzie's managerial decisions. Sometimes, those criticisms couldn't be more spot on. But, you can do that for each and every manager in baseball. Honestly, you think if we were Card fans or Yankee fans or Padre fans or Devil Ray fans we wouldn't question the manager? Of course we would. You could do that of any manager in baseball. They keep guys around and use them for a reason. Let's not throw Marte under the bus just yet. That's all. We would all like to know that. Neal has been one of the best relievers in baseball this season, Damaso is horrible, period. This is the major reason a lot of us have been hard on Oz this season.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:46 PM) Where's Viz? Not being used, a good chance damaso would be, that's the problem.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:42 PM) Cotts is spent. You'd rather see........ Cliff, Dustin, Bobby, the Duke.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:40 PM) There are some things in baseball that can be very dumbed down to understand. This is one of them. Marte cant get anyone out. LH, RH, Batboys, ME, anyone.(Alright, Maybe me.) Just because McCarthy is on the roster doesnt mean they are going to use Brandon in the same situation they would use Marte. It would probably mean we see more of Cotts, which is think is what we all want. He needs to be off the roster. Exactly, Basically the same thing I just said the post under yours, if Damaso is on the roster he's in danger of being used cause of that damn left hand of his. Viz will only be used if we run out of pitchers some how. No damaso means more cotts, more cotts means more outs.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:38 PM) This is the playoffs. There is no need for Viz whatsoever in a close game. Don't forget that you can use starter's in relief if necessary. Viz's only use to me is mopup, and McCarthy should fill that role. So once again, you would rather have damaso in the bullpen in danger of being used cause he throws with his left hand when he can't get a left handed batter out, instead of a guy who will be in the pen and not used unless it's a must, and if it's a must he's a much better guy to have in the pen then damaso to throw an inning or two.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:34 PM) No, I think you guys are right. Again, Ozzie has nothing on armchair, Soxtalk managerial committee. For ages, it has been believed that left hander pitchers have an inherant advantage versus left handed batters. But, let's live and die by those stats and trot out a guy like Vizcaino over a left handed reliever--and one, that, if on his game, can be one of the best left handed relievers in all of baseball--because Marte "can't get anybody out." Believe me, I'm far from leading the Damaso Marte fan club, but I don't understand why the argument isn't one of Vizcaino versus McCarthy instead of Marte versus McCarthy. Time out here. I'm far from a stat guy so don't even try to put that on me, second it doesn't take a sabermetician to figure out Damaso can't get a f***in lefty out, Damaso can't get a f***in batter out. He comes in, throws 2 strikes then just walks the guy on the next 4 pitches. Damaso was one of the best relievers in baseball two years ago, right now he sucks, period.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:29 PM) Viz's splits are horrendous. You want Vizcaino out there facing a LH instead of Marte? Ok I meant if those two are the last two left in the bullpen then I want viz out there for an inning much more then I want damaso out there for an inning. Viz's splits against lefties are definitely not good, Damaso's suck as well though.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:27 PM) I look at it 100% differently. What, are you a mem ber of the White Sox? Having a 35 jersey, or 56 just tells everyone who your favorite player is, or that you appreciate the work that player has put in. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:25 PM) Viz is way worse vs. Lh's than Marte....... Can we all just agree we don't want to see either guy, period. No doubt, but if the situation comes to it, I'd much rather have viz out there then damaso.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 02:09 PM) He has to be on the roster. I'm sorry. Having him off the roster just doesn't make a lick of sense. One left handed reliever in the ALCS...errrr...I dunno. Ask the 2002 angels how important it is to have 2 lefties in the bullpen.

WOW, 2 out nobody on in the bottom of the 9th and brad ausmus goes yard to tie it.

Berkman goes granny, stros attempting to come back, it was 6 to 1, now it's 6 to 5 in the 8th with 1 out.

We have no nation and we have no curse, espn is trying to tag those things on us cause the cubs and sawx are gone and they need something to talk about.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 12:54 PM) But At least Marte has the ability to come in and get out a tough LH, But he really doesnt.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 12:42 PM) Have you not realized Viz is f***ING useless Being useless is so much better then being used in situations where you can't get outs.

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 12:38 PM) I agree w/ the rotation, but keeping Viz over McCarthy is just stupid. Have you not realized that Damaso sucks yet?

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 12:09 PM) I would switch Garland and Buehrle honestly. I rather have the sinkerball go at home and Buehrle go on the road which would be a bigger ballpark. Mark has been much, much better at home, almost a run and a half better while Jon has been a tad bit better on the road.

First with the positive, I'm happy we're going with the same rotation as the alds, Jose should be starting game 1 and I like that ozzie is keeping the rotation the same. To the negative, Damaso sucks right now and he better not be used at all, another thing about this move, did anyone here yesterday how sutcliffe said that ozzie told him that he doesn't want to use Marte at home cause the crowd boo's him. So we bring a guy with who will only be used on the road who can't get anyone out?? Good call on that one. :headshake

I'm actually happy dustin didnt pitch. The more he's been rested the better he's been pitching and that makes a lot of sense with his back.

You're preaching to the choir here, dbaho.

QUOTE(IlliniKrush @ Oct 9, 2005 -> 12:50 AM) Due to increased revenue and ability to sign him? I think this is what tony was getting at and I'd tend to agree. Kenny's not dumb in fact he's become one of the better gm's in baseball and he realizes how important paul is to the team. Already making it this far will give us the ability to increase payroll a significant amount. The more money we have to spend the better chance we have to bring PK back.

And then there were 6.......

This is probably the worst thread ever on soxtalk, if this poster doesn't get banned then that's a travesty.

I'm so nervous during games that I rarely do chants.

QUOTE(bulokis @ Oct 8, 2005 -> 01:49 PM) Marte baby! I have one of those...whoops.