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Guys Scott isnt a platoon player. We have 4 really good outfielders and Scott has sat out the least out of all of them since we've had this good problem. Anyways, wow to Frank, that was nuts.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jul 3, 2005 -> 02:32 PM) He was putting guys on base, but his WHIP was low because no one can touch him when he's throwing his forkball and fastball for a strike consistently. Hell he could walk a ton of guys and still have a low WHIP because his stuff is just that damn good. I know for a while there he had one of the lowest BA against in the majors. Too bad he doesn't use it effectively consistently. That's the thing though even if he'd walk a guy here or there, there still wasn't a ton of guys on base because he didn't allow very many hits.

QUOTE(My Left White Sock @ Jul 3, 2005 -> 02:16 PM) But you can't just count the good stretches. Well you said even when he was going good he was putting a lot of men on base and that wasn't true.

QUOTE(My Left White Sock @ Jul 3, 2005 -> 01:59 PM) I think thats a great reason to not go with Jose. I am just not falling in love with Contreras' stuff and ignoring the fact that he's remarkably inconsistent and has yet to put together a good major league season. How stupid do you have to be to pitch like Jose? Keep it out of the zone so everyone walks, don't listen to your catcher, get hammered. Seriously you would think all he needs to do is look at his results to realize he needs to change his strategy on the mound. And I don't think even when his ERA was lower he was awesome. He is pretty much a six inning pitcher because he is inefficient with his pitches and he always finds ways to put runners on base. Actually before this last string of starts he was top 20 in the majors in whip so that's not entirely true.

Well Schmidt is pitching today so nothing will happen today most likely. I'm going to follow his start on mlb.tv while watching the sox game.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jul 3, 2005 -> 01:51 PM) I agree, I'd rather have Jose. However, he needs to get his confidence back and take the sign from AJ and throw the damn ball. It seems Duque and Contreras are the two guys who have a hard time listening to AJ's game-calling and those are the two guys who routinely get into trouble. If I am Ozzie I tell both of these guys to never shake off AJ, throw the ball and shut the f*** up. (End of rant.) Oh god, I couldn't agree more. It's the most frusterating thing in the world to see a guy who doesn't know what the hell he's doing out there shaking off one of the best game calling catchers in baseball.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 3, 2005 -> 01:46 PM) Apparently, Sporting News Radio has said that the Sox are close to acquiring Schimdt. Just saw it over at BTF, thought I'd let you guys know. Any details Keith??? Thanks for the info.

QUOTE(My Left White Sock @ Jul 3, 2005 -> 01:43 PM) Based on what exactly? Did you see Contreras' last start? Yes I saw Contreras's last start, he hasn't been good 3 of his last 4 starts but before that he was literally awesome. Esteban's numbers aren't to much better then Jose and he plays in the nl and plays at RFK which is a pitchers park. Bring him to the al and have him pitch at the cell and his era is probably around where it was last year, jmo.

QUOTE(My Left White Sock @ Jul 3, 2005 -> 01:13 PM) I wouldn't mind having Loaiza in the four spot instead of Contreras. I still don't get that deal, taking on a guy with no record of success and a big contract. I wish Esteban the best and I'd be glad to face him this year however I do believe he'd be much worse then Contreras if he was still around.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Jul 3, 2005 -> 03:09 AM) 6/11 - Cleveland - 5 IP, 6 H, 6 R(6 ER), 3 BB, 7 K 6/17 - @Detroit - 8 IP, 7 H, 0 R, 1 BB, 5 K 6/22 - Arizona - 8 IP, 5 H, 0 R, 2 BB, 10 K 6/28 - @Arizona - 6 IP, 9 H, 3 R(3 ER), 3 BB, 6 K Definately can't like his WHIP of 2 in his last start. I don't think trading for him would be wise at all, unless the package was understandably cheap. The risk/reward is far, far too great for me atleast to consider making the deal for what you'd have to give up. The reward is huge...he returns to dominance of 03, or atleast returns to being very good, ala 02 and 04, and it would be a crying shame if we didn't win the series(because with a 1-4 of Buehrle-Garcia-Schmidt-Garland in any order, you have no reason to lose any type of series). The risk is could be far greater though...giving up 2 top prospects for what could a disaster...Schmidt being worse than Duque, along with the Sox being stuck with an unbelievably bad contract while hurting in the future for young players. The contract isn't that big of a deal, he has a team option after this year with a 3 or 3.5 mill buyout.

QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Jul 3, 2005 -> 02:04 AM) He gave us a quality start and thats about all you can ask of a pitcher. Nice to see him nail down win number 13 so early on in the season. He showed me something tonight. You know last years Jon would have completely melted down in that 6th inning, he's a completely different pitcher. Congrats on 13 Jon

Playing the hottest team in baseball at a park we usually find ways to lose in, nobody better to throw out there then Mark(duh).

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Jul 3, 2005 -> 01:35 AM) You just don't want me in cuz I dominated the last one It wasn't fair you had Willie Bloomquist.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 2, 2005 -> 07:46 PM) The "every team has a rep" rule, though it causes some undeserving players to make it, does do something positive for baseball. It helps to keep, or make, the kids as fans. I know when I was a kid, it was important to me who was in the game for the White Sox. When I'd attend a game after the break, even though the team might have sucked, I knew I'd get to see our all-star CF, Chet Lemon ... or whoever. Building and maintaining a young fan base is crucial to baseball, and this does help develope that. YAS, that's great, the problem is if you're going to do that you can't have the game mean something. It can't be meaningful and be an exhibition at the same time. This year for me I'm going to have a big interest in the game because home field in the world series can be a difference maker, do you want to see Emil Brown out there as a deciding factor in something like that??? I don't know maybe it's just me but I just don't think you can have it both ways.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jul 3, 2005 -> 01:10 AM) Crede has been having a pretty decent season actually for all the hate he gets, hate included from me, well not real hate just wanting of a replacement. his HR numbers and RBI total are good for a #8 hitter. I said it before I'll say it again he has to be the third baseman unless an absolute stud is available. He is so damn awesome defensviely and like you said his power numbers are perfectly fine.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jul 3, 2005 -> 01:11 AM) How could he do that if he doesnt believe in gay people No, no, no. You've got it all mixed up he doesn't believe in dinasours, he just believes homosexuality is wrong.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jul 2, 2005 -> 10:17 PM) I was talking to my best friend today, Cubs fan. He's so f***ing furious, rightfully. that Dusty continues to hit two of the s***test OBP men in the leauge above DLee. We were discussing who could hit above him. I suggested, Hairston leading off playing everday, Walker hitting 2. Now there's some RBI's for Lee. I know people probably don't like talking about the Cubs. But... Any thoughts? My thoughts exactly, Hairston should be starting in center and leading off and Walker should be hitting 2nd, there's no doubt. However for some reason the Cubs are in love with Corey Patterson, for what reason I have no clue.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Jul 3, 2005 -> 12:20 AM) One question... How is the financial structure of the league going to be setup? Basically, are you going to set it up that each team gets the same amount to spend and that just like fan support brings in money, or are you going to set it up as the current MLB is where teams like the Yankees, Red Sox, and Angels can just outspend everybody? That decision would mean a lot to me. I have a few teams in mind that I'd like, but that question above is something that I would need answered. Who said you're in????

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 3, 2005 -> 12:20 AM) Thread has been cleaned quickly. Really nice win though. Garland was smooth as silk and Crede came up with some big hits. Heck, Willie had a key play in the game (the single and steal to get into scoring position) and Timo ripped a nice insurance double. Garland was fantastic, I just love watching him pitch this year. That game was an overall great effort and Crede was obviously awesome, he really does make tough hops seem routine.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 2, 2005 -> 09:45 PM) What did Everett say about Gammons? If it was anything about being an old, red-sox-loving bastard that is ignorant in the sport of baseball, then he was right. He was making a crack about Gammons being gay.

I'm fine with the suspension here's what perplexes me if Rogers gets chosen to the allstar game he can pitch

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jul 2, 2005 -> 04:41 PM) Wow, I didn't realize just how bad of a month Ryan Sweeney was having. .263 SLG%? .271 OBP? :puke Over the course of this half season, my excitment towards prospects have shifted from Ryan Sweeney and Josh Fields to Chris Young and Casey Rogowski. I'm starting to get really excited about Rogo. I'm excited about Rogo just for the fact I really believe him and Ross can do a fantastic job holding down first without pauly here next year or atleast I hope pauly is gone after this season.

I'll join

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jul 2, 2005 -> 02:57 PM) That's a sick line from Young... 17BB 19K 8HR. Incredible. Roids

QUOTE(danman31 @ Jul 2, 2005 -> 02:53 PM) Somebody please split this Contreras stuff outta here. It's the whole thread and has no relevance to trades. It's interesting to see the Yanks dealt Quantrill. Surprised someone wanted to give something up for him knowing he'd go on waivers anyway. Do May and Redding really count for anything??