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QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jun 16, 2005 -> 05:22 PM) Well frankly I'd take last years offense over this years offense. The reason the team is winning this year is pitching. Put this years pitching staff (and the way they are throwing the ball) with last years offense and I think you'd have similar results. Of course this club is arguably a little better defensively (mainly AJ in CF and the fact that Jose has been replaced by Juan). However Maggs was a good RF and Lee is just as good as Pods defensively (I don't care what anyone else tells me either). I personally wouldn't and I know I'm going to get torn to shreads for that but I guess I just like the way this offense is built and I know their stats aren't good but they've come up with every big hit possible. The thing that says it for me is that the Twins have a better team era and there are a ton of people who absolutely love their offense yet the sox are 5 games up on them. Anyways, it's just a difference of opinion

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jun 16, 2005 -> 05:37 PM) Winston Salem leads 5-0 after one. Guess who hit a 3 run shot? :headshake Daigle, you beast. Haeger on the bump for the 'Hogs. 1st inning - Adkins goes for the Knights. Wow.

QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Jun 16, 2005 -> 05:33 PM) O ok, it would have been great it we did go through with that trade. But o well. Was it a rumor when Gange was still a starter or did he start closing yet? It was when he was still starting.

QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Jun 16, 2005 -> 05:24 PM) Your joking right? Nope, that was a rumor that was thrown around for a while and looked like it was about to happen.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jun 16, 2005 -> 05:17 PM) 60%. I watch almost every game too, but I dont' pay attention to the details and stuff. I watch the game and just see who does good and whose struggling. I still swear Frank had a hit in his debut. I remember him ripping one to center but I must be wrong. I missed 2,3,8,9 He ripped one right at the left fielder in his 2nd ab.

QUOTE(Cubs Suck23 @ Jun 16, 2005 -> 04:31 PM) I hope he is with the Sox his entire life... That's something I'm sure almost all of soxtalk could agree on.

Steff, what time are you guys starting the tailgate?

100.00

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jun 16, 2005 -> 03:58 PM) I don't know. I-Rod and Nomar are pretty good balanced hitters as in they hit both for average and power. Same with Frank(at least OBP wise) and Rowand. PK would've had his PK year. I truly don't know, but I would've watched, that's for sure. Nine, this is true, however remember Frank and Nomar were both injured for a big chunk of the season, so now you're putting willie at 2b, juan at short, and timo back in rf.

I feel so bad for Maggs, I mean he's such a great person he just doesn't deserve to be injured on a bad team.........or not. To bad Maggs you got what you deserved.

Haha, Willie Harris in right field now that would be something to see. Anyways while good on paper that offense would have done the same crap our offense in years past did imo.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Jun 16, 2005 -> 03:02 PM) I think the thing that is confusing me in all of this, or atleast in the FG/Davis situation, is that I thought I'd remembered reading somewhere where the Sox could have had FG for like just Valentin, and the Sox turned it down, due to Valentin's leadership, clutchness, and the fact that they would not have had a SS with Uribe being completely unproven. The M's would have done it because they needed a SS badly, having traded Guillen to Detroit, and FG had a burden of a contract at $7 mill while coming off 2 pretty poor years in a row. So is there no validity to that Jose s*** at all, or am I remembering reading that right? Wite, the rumor was that the Jose for Freddy deal was done if the Nomar for Maggs deal went through. After that fell through then Kenny probably didn't want to trade Jose and give the job to an unproven Uribe.

I've been as guilty as anyone about talking possible deals mostly because it's interesting conversation to have. The sox may need another reliever but as I've said earlier I'd like to give Baj or Jenks a shot before making a deal, I think we have some solid in house options to upgrade the pen if need be. To me the logical spot would be to update 3rd base but as of right now I'm fine with Joe, if he could stay around the .250 mark he'd be perfectly fine, he's going to hit 20 homeruns and he's a fantastic 3rd baseman. At this point there could be an upgrade to the team, however I'm perfectly happy with what we have now, I personally don't think we need to make a trade.

QUOTE(SHAFTR @ Jun 16, 2005 -> 03:09 AM) Well, there are some facts backing up the Homosexuality/Nature debate. An overwhelming amount of testimonials from homosexuals seems to say they always remember feeling the way they do. Second off, a look at Identical Twins and Fraternal Twins found some convincing evidence. When one identical twin was found to be gay, there was a 50% chance the other was as well. With Fraternal twins, that # is much lower. Eitiher way, it doesn't really matter nature or nurture, what is important is acceptance and equality. Everett has proven time and time again that he is an idiot. I don't have a problem unless he becomes an idiot with an agenda. Carl's a religious guy and I'm basically the opposite of that so I'm not sure but isn't there something in the bible or catholic religion that opposes homosexuality or have I been watching to much television

QUOTE(knightni @ Jun 16, 2005 -> 02:11 AM) Well... back at you Sir. I can undertand Slonerko, Crazy, Dead, Judy, Cocks, Dingo, Jizzcan, Omit & Cruddy. They deserve those nicknames at times. But, I just couldn't understand the swipe at Gload. Don't forget Botch for Cotts and Dumasso. Good thing you weren't around in 03 Jabroni when Mark was struggling otherwise I'm sure he'd have a clever nickname as well.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Jun 16, 2005 -> 12:55 AM) Frank is 60 away from 500 HR now. At this rate he'll get there this season

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 16, 2005 -> 01:36 AM) But he DID hit .181 in May and it's because he's Crediocre. Did he get a promotion from Cruddy?? :huh

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jun 16, 2005 -> 01:13 AM) Six of those 12 games of Paulie's streak were without Frank in the line up. Up until today for the last 3 games he was going to right field much more, I'm not sure if that was the case vs Colorado and the first two games against San Diego when I was out of town but that's something I've noticed about him. Pauly becomes such a dangerous hitter when he uses the whole field.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Jun 16, 2005 -> 12:47 AM) ^That.^ My White Sox themed sigs have all been of the Hurt. That's cause you're boring

I've never had a team come that close and then not get it done. As you guys know I'm not an Illini fan but that was a special team and season. The only thing from my perspective I can compare that to is the Sox in the 2000 playoffs and that was only the ALDS but I know that hurt big time for me.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 16, 2005 -> 12:02 AM) Crede and Konerko didn't help him either, except on offense of course. Very true.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jun 15, 2005 -> 11:42 PM) I agree. Let's hope this is only a bump in the road and not the beginning of a trend. I personally think the effect of Colorado took a toll on Freddy, Jose, and the Duke. Garland just didn't have much today even though that homerun to Clark was ridiculous.

QUOTE(Ishmookie @ Jun 15, 2005 -> 11:41 PM) Ok i gotta jump in on this it was amazing! 10 FREAKING RUNS!!! I hope this is our year. Anyway we gotta keep going against the Dodgers. Let's go White Sox! Sell out the series! Just looking for tickets I can tell you it's going to be pretty fricken crowded on Friday and I'm sure Saturday and Sunday will be backed as well.

Fantastic news. Gload adds so much to this team, great hitter, good speed, great defensive first baseman, he strengthens the bench 10 fold. Can't wait till he's back on the roster.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 15, 2005 -> 11:28 PM) If Reed and Morse pan out, it's still a good trade. Olivo is a bust in my opinion. I agree and to think the person I was most upset about losing was Miggy. I agree with what BHAM said, I'll root for Miguel to get it back together unfortunately I just don't think it's going to happen.