Rowand44

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Jun 15, 2005 -> 02:29 AM) Ok then. I didn't read the entire thread. I just saw Marte for Mueller straight up. And who could we really get that's even 85% of Marte for a scrub like Crede? Honestly for a team rebuilding who needs a 3rd baseman I bet you he could actually bring a pretty solid reliever.

Does Corwin Malone have the stuff back that made him the sox top lefty pitching prospect a few years back? Are Gio and Liotta going to be pushed through the ranks or will they be carefully moved throughout the system?

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Jun 15, 2005 -> 01:44 AM) The move is counter productive. Now if we had a solid left handed replacement in store, i'm all for it. Fair enough but I think most of us are saying we'd be fine with that move if Crede was then traded off to find a replacement for Dam.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jun 15, 2005 -> 01:42 AM) Gracias.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 15, 2005 -> 01:40 AM) And my point still stands. He was referring to the false rumor at the deadline. Yeah, I recall that rumor as welll.

Juniors contract is just to outrageous yas, qwerty i see you're reading this thread what's the whole contract again?? Grif could definitely help this team out there is absolutely no doubt about that but he'd also handicap us quite a bit for years to come.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jun 15, 2005 -> 01:22 AM) If not, that's cool too. I've grown to love this part of Soxtalk, lots of good information and posters. Easily my favorite part of Soxtalk.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jun 15, 2005 -> 01:04 AM) I had already said that it my previous post. QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jun 15, 2005 -> 01:04 AM) That's why YAS said we'd have to replace Damaso if that were to happen. Blah, looks like you still got the quick fingers at your old age YAS

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 15, 2005 -> 01:02 AM) It would leave us with one lefty reliever that is better at getting righties out. We would need to make another trade for a lefty reliever then. That's why YAS said we'd have to replace Damaso if that were to happen.

The guy behind us tonight I was about to turn around and just punch him in the face. This guy was as clueless everyword that came out of his mouth was a swear. Little kids all over the place and he continously was saying f***. Not only that but what really almost caused me to snap that he was using the N word and the derogatory(sp?) word towards mexican, this guy was a racist PoS and he's just yelling all this junk in front of little kids. Thankfully he was eventually removed in about the 6th inning but it was just terrible.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 11:53 PM) We'd have to then trade Crede or Everett for a good reliever or two. Carl really can't go anywhere, if Frank can stay healthy he's going to be tremendous, problem is every few games he's out there he has to leave early, sure yesterday was just a cramp it's still just a little scary. Anyways, as for what yasny said, the beauty is Neal has given the sox some flexibility where he can be used as the primary lefty and maybe if this trade did happen(obviously a big if, just want to make a point) that Crede could bring us a good solid loogy, with the way ozzie manages finding a loogy could be huge.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 11:48 PM) Not domination but close. First time all year he consistantly got his change over.

Speaking of Shingo he looked absolutely terrific tonight, he was getting his change over and just blowing his fastball by the hitters tonight. I wonder if he's getting back on track or if this was just a one night thing. Hopefully he's getting it back but we'll have to wait and see.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 11:28 PM) That was his Marrioti rant on Critics. Hillarious. Beautiful, that's what I thought just wanted to be sure. Well done cheat.

He's definitely opinionated.

Since cheat mentioned guardado what do you think it would take to get every day eddie away from Seattle? Also cheat, random question-- did you happen to email M, J, an H today?

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 11:21 PM) If Marte were out the door, rest assured that KW would be on the phone with Seattle trying to get Everyday Eddie. I never get too involved in these talks because they never have much credence, but this one makes sense. That being said, BHAM said their were lots of Houston scouts at the BHam game yesterday. Morgan Ensberg anyone? Nope Brad Lidge. Ok, I'll wake up now.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 11:17 PM) Perfectly fine with me. Let's talk. Marte makes sense. I'd imagine they'd have to get a third team in this trade, though -- I mean, they (the White Sox) wouldn't be able to keep Crede -- you can't keep him on the bench, he only plays one position, and doesn't even hit that well. So, we can start looking for a team that needs a thirdbaseman... Very true just for the sake of conversation lets say Mueller comes to the sox, Damaso to Boston then would you think Crede would be used to find a LOOGY somewhere?? That seems like that would be the scenario especially with ozzie cause there is no way with the way he manages the sox could go with 1 lefty.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 11:11 PM) Contreras did have an ERA of 3.18 before Ozzie decided to make Widger his catcher yesterday ya know. Right now he's averaging 6 innings a start. Hernandez has an average of below 6 innings however....... Jose will be perfectly fine I am concerned about el duque though, hopefully he can turn it around soon.

QUOTE(Frankensteiner @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 11:05 PM) I'm betting Cincy would want less for Randa seeing as how they're not a contender. As much as I hate Crede, I can't justify giving up one of Politte/Cotts/Hermanson for Mueller. Those 3 aren't going anywhere and I'm fairly certain Damaso isn't either.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 11:00 PM) After his performances in the last month, I think a lot of people are now warming up to the idea of seeing Marte go in a trade. I definitely don't want to lose Damaso however if the right package came along I wouldn't necessarily be against it. Damaso's stuff looked absolutely fantastic tonight but he still got hit around pretty good, I was stumped just leaving to many pitches over the plate at this point.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 10:54 PM) You sure you want foulke back? I always knew Cotts was better then Foulke, yup we definitely won that deal

Bill Mueller would be a huge upgrade no doubt, he's just a solid everyday major leaguer, what do you think the Red Sox would want in return R and W?

Not much to say about tonight, it was just ugly. Anyways, steff was that you smoochin away on the kiss cam tonight?

I hope he gets healthy soon, we need him, he strengthens are bench a ridiculous amount the guy just does everything well, well besides play the outfield.