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QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 11:09 PM) I like Ozzie. In my mind he was a good shortstop and a fun player to follow. I wouldn't call him an overrated fielder either. He was a good fielder. People on this board act like he hit like Mark Belanger and fielded like Bee Bee Richard. He was a good player. Our 05 team won in spite of him ... sure it did. Bulls***. He led us to the city's only WS title in about 80 years. I think his quotes are funny. And he's young. He's learned a lot here. It ain't really his fault he can't work with KW. The two are like oil and water. Those are facts. I hope they both get canned, not just one. Because of that they deserve to get axed. Jerry should have yelled at them both last year and said if they didn't grow up and work together and meet once a week in a civil setting they were GONE. But Oz WAS a good player and IS a good manager ... IMO. I don't even know why I bother to respond to you because you're so blinded when it comes to Ozzie. But the fact that you believe he's batting Rios 4th to spite KW and also believe that he's a good manager is truly one of the more insane opinions I've ever seen on this board. QUOTE (Tex @ Sep 1, 2011 -> 04:22 AM) Because some on the board realize that players have to play. couldn't win consistently with the types of seasons some very key players have had. If only he'd actually let his best players play... QUOTE (Lemon_44 @ Sep 1, 2011 -> 04:32 AM) Being a tactician is ,in my opinion, so overrated. The key part about being a manager is managing the clubhouse. Just because a guy can make a double switch doesn't mean he's a good manager. I think OG does a great job in the clubhouse. He keeps the heat off the players and let's them play the game. Other than some lapses by Rios, the team plays the game the right way. They just need to execute better. The White Sox haven't played the game of baseball the correct way in years now, no freakin clue what team you're watching. And it's one thing to not be a great tactician but it's another thing to make moves that are just plain idiotic. Pinch hitting Adam Dunn in a key situation for Lilli and batting Rios 4th are literally some of the dumbest moves you'll ever see a manager make.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 10:00 PM) . . . while less than 10% recognizes Williams' incompetency. Before this season, Kenny still had a lot of Sox fans on his side, at this point, a LOT more than 10 percent want him gone.

You're preaching to the choir. I'd say about 98 percent of this board at this point realizes that Ozzie is incompetent.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 09:28 PM) I know how payroll works. I would rather pay guys who actually give a f*** like Quentin and actually produce over hacks like Peavy, Dunn and Rios. It's not my fault our GM acquired those wastes of money. There is absolutely no reason for the hatred on Quentin on this site. By all accounts he's a gamer and has good stats! So in other words, you don't understand.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 07:30 PM) "Hopefully, further in my career, I'll be the guy that they want up there," Lillibridge said. "I always want to be in there to get the opportunity to win a game or at least give us a chance to win. But I trust in [bench coach] Joey [Cora] and Ozzie and the decisions they make." "Dunn can go up there and hit the ball out of the ballpark or walk," Guillen said. "Obviously, he struck out, but that's the matchup I liked the best. Unfortunately, it didn't work." Because you're an absolute moron.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 03:50 PM) BTW, anyone notice how polished PK has become as a hitter? He's hitting to both sides of the field and does just as much damage without putting the ball in the seats. He should be a keeper. He's just flat out awesome.

MDGonzales Mark Gonzales Brent Lillibridge led the Sox with six home runs in August. Ahh so that's why we pinch hit for him in the 9th as he was the tying run...

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 04:39 PM) In his last season where he played full time in AAA, which was in 2007, he stole 13 bases in 14 attempts (and had double digits in years before that too). He was injured in 2008 and has been a backup since, but stole a few anyway. Plus I've seen him play. And an Al pitcher who never hits/runs is a much higher injury risk. Zero doubt in my mind that Lucy is a decent baserunner and made more sense there, the only reason he didn't is that as someone else pointed out, Ozzie NEVER plays his backup C for the game. In any case, this was well down the list of his stupid mistakes, and it turned out not to matter. If Rios got a hit though, it could have. Well I gotta admit, as much as I do follow the minor leagues, I never really paid attention to Lucy's stolen base numbers and I really don't recall off the top of my head, seeing him run. Well played, you win this argument.

Actually, forget blaming everyone else, shame on me for actually letting myself get worked up about this f***in team and this f***in season. This is my own damn fault that I'm so pissed, not the morons that run this team.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 03:21 PM) I said that before Laughs out loud.

It's been such a joy to watch this team since Dayan has been up and then Ozzie, Jake, Rios and Dunn just take a huge s*** on the whole parade. Disgusting.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 03:09 PM) Donny Lucy was still on the bench. He's faster and more used to running. Seems like that is lower risk than losing a pitcher for the game. Flowers gets hurt, worst case, the Sox lose the DH in extras. I'm sure Stewart is faster than Lucy or at least I wouldn't be surprised. Lets be honest, neither of us know how good of a base runner Donny is but I'd take my chances with Zach there. Ozzie disgusts me but that's a move that actually made sense imo.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 03:07 PM) And did I read the box score right - Zach Stewart ran for PK? WTF was that about? Had no one left to pinch run, had to do something there.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 03:02 PM) Vizquel's terrible and he could have been called on strike on two occasions. We got a break. Ball 3 should have definitely been a k. Granted, Beckham sucks as well so I really couldn't care less that Omar ph for him. Even in this "reduced role" Ozzie still allows Adam Dunn to kill us and still manages to let Alex Rios bat clean up while he rots one of our better bats on the bench.

QUOTE (Marty34 @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 02:56 PM) How do you feel about Peavy? He sucks ass too. But please PLEASE PLEASE try and defend Ozzie for today. I would love to hear a logical explanation.

QUOTE (SnB @ Aug 31, 2011 -> 02:53 PM) Ozzie making ridiculous managing decisions. (Dunn, stewart) Who did you want to pinch run? Anyways, Ozzie is a f***in moron, every time you think he can't get any f***in dumber he does s*** like this. I'm sick to my f***in stomach.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 30, 2011 -> 09:24 PM) So Matt Hardy posted a "suicide note" on youtube? Oh boy Yikes. Scary. One messed up family.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 30, 2011 -> 11:47 PM) If we finish over .500 the country is going to view it as the Marlins getting a steal. They get a WS winning manager whose best years are ahead of him as he's still very young. And the Sox wouldn't extend him? Crazy. We could still have a s*** September and all will look fine in canning Ozzie. But Sox potentially could be mocked over this one if we have a good month. Ya, the rest of the f***in country hasn't had to deal with his idiocy for 8 years now. It's beyond hilarious to me that you love Ozzie so much while believing he's batting Rios 4th out of spite. Do you realize how bat s*** crazy that is? My f***in god.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Aug 30, 2011 -> 10:28 PM) Whatever. I mean, the guy likes Joe Cowley. Who cares. Am I Carlos Gonzalez because I depict him as the modern day Babe Ruth? Unless you have something other than speculation, leave the guy alone. He's not bothering anybody. It's not because he likes Cowley, it's because he acts like Joe. And for the record, nobody actually believes that he's Cowley. Mike has been the one joking around about it the most but has already stated that he knows that he's not actually that asshole.

I have to admit that these last 3 games have just been a joy to watch with the youngins pretty much carrying us to victories. That being said, this is so bitter-sweet, we're not going to win the division but we really could have and probably would have had these obvious and necessary moves been made a few months earlier. Stupid f***in organization.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Aug 30, 2011 -> 10:27 PM) I'm sure they'll go that route next year. I just can't see it lasting. He just does not, to me anyway, profile as a 200 innings a year guy. Unless you're that worried about his mechanics, I just don't see why. There's really no reason at all that he can't be a starter.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 30, 2011 -> 09:07 PM) Haha, thanks blue! Tad bit high! Regardless, Sale and Santos are just stupid good right now!!!

QUOTE (DirtySox @ Aug 30, 2011 -> 04:14 PM) Chuck Garfien Ozzie Guillen says he'll want a contract extension from White Sox this off-season. He's signed through 2012. 1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply Chuck Garfien Guillen: "One thing I make clear, I don't think I'll be back here for 1 year contract, and not know about the next year." 56 seconds ago Favorite Retweet Reply I just want him to go away. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

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