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It was agreed to as being part of the discussion. But as we know no ones word is good enough.

in Passan's article he says Clark agreed that it was part of the discussion even though its not specifically written in the agreement.

As jimmy said. this is just a stalling tactic until its only possible to play the 54 games and not get sued by the union. They'll play. The sox current schedule would have 52 games in August and September. So the owners will stall until training camp wont start until the second week of July. So that means they probably will stall until the end of June or so.

No their grievance is based on that the players had agreed to renegotiate the full prorated salary if the fans werent going to be in the seats.

Well he already destroyed part of their scoreboard so he does owe them.

I believe its from their contention that they would have receive that much from the fans in the seats for whatever portion of the season is played. Since has been since determined that fans won't be in the seats and the players won't renegotiate they are out that money and the players are out nothing.

Yep. They are both after short term benefits and are sacrificing the long term good of the game.

That would be the only way to make sure they dont lose the grievance. The bastards.

No it faults the owners as well. It is definitely not one sided.

Read the article by Jeff passon in ESPN before you place the blame all on the greedy owners. But yes baseball does need a fundamental change from all.

At the university we did take a pay rate cut for summer courses. The pay for "overload " courses is different than the regular semesters. Luckily our benefits did not change.

Hopefully as everything progresses people learn to change their behavior. I'm not convinced you can change what they truly believe, but if enough people face these types of consequences maybe they'll be afraid for their jobs and change their behavior.

Sure they do. That doesn't mean it's in the best interest of the game. This is why both sides need to give a little for this weird situation. Negotiate the CBA after the season.

Good point. Comes down to getting the playoff money.

Hes not wrong though.

Football players dont count.

I guess I see it more as the sports needs to take the risk. It good for the overall league to play. If they dont play the sport itself will suffer which will lead to the overall decline. That hurts everyone.

I think it would be wrong to not to at least try to have a season. All fo the other sports are. They should try it and if they need to cut it short so be it.

So what is the loss if there are no playoffs? Inconsequential? It's hard to have compassion for either side, when neither negotiated.

Right. They aren't part of the union until the MLB and a very small percentage make it.

Agreed. It's become just a precursor to the CBA negotiations and they are both looking out for themselves not the good of the game in a bad situation. These tactics are fine in normal negotiations but not in this extraordinary situation.

I agree about the players stance. This would be a decent offer.

That would be a good compromise. Not sure f the players go for it though. There wouldn't be many days off with that many games.

I'm in the category of some baseball is better than no baseball. Especially with all of the young talent the Sox have. I want them to get as much experience and development as possible. Even if they need to cut it even shorter for a 2nd wave of the virus.

There was a report on the radio this morning that a meeting for the owners was happening today.