Everything posted by ptatc
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2015 MLB Catch-All Thread
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 16, 2015 -> 07:43 PM) The asking price for Cole Hamels is going down by the minute. I don't think the focus is quite where it needs to be. He really wants out of there.
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Rodon Watch 2015
QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Apr 16, 2015 -> 07:49 PM) Yea I'd like to see him get at least 80 innings in AAA before they bring him up. Don't do something drastic as a short term fix when the long term (him learning to command his fastball and work in the change when the games don't count) is incredibly more important. That said, Danks and Noesi -- step it up the f*** up. Especially Noessi, who has stuff but needs to find his release point consistently. Danks isn't working with much and who can blame him. Not much faith in either of those guys but you know whatever if they aren't good they aren't good Rodon's decision is more about him then them -- as it should be. With rodon's motion he most likely will always have inconsistent command. Hopefully they can refine it some.
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Rodon Watch 2015
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 16, 2015 -> 04:20 PM) I also think they're going to be leery of having another Strasburg situation like 2012 where they feel they have to shut him down in September because of the elevated number of innings pitched. Most of us guessed somewhere around 22-26 starts and 130-160ish IP. This is a good estimate. If he comes up now, he will not finish out the season. Even if he does hit that mark, he will be fatigued and most likely not as effective for those final games.
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Rodon Watch 2015
QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 16, 2015 -> 04:17 PM) A quick change in plans is a good thing sometimes. If Rodon has a good start tonight and they feel he's ready, next Wednesday should be his first start. 17 straight games starting tomorrow. Give him two starts in a 6-man, and then decide which way to go. Chances are he'll pitch his way into being in the Sox rotation. Bad idea IMHO.
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Rodon Watch 2015
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 16, 2015 -> 04:16 PM) Just don't see that happening...he's going to be stuck in the lower 90's, which is okay. Look at Zach Duke, he doesn't have to throw 96 to be effective, even as a reliever. With the labrum surgery, I doubt he would even have the confidence to consistently amp his MPH up like that anyway. The capsule was more of the issue than the labrum. torn labrum is pretty easy to fix. the capsule not so much.
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Rodon Watch 2015
QUOTE (Feeky Magee @ Apr 16, 2015 -> 04:13 PM) I'd call up Rodon ASAP after tomorrow's deadline and put Danks in the Scott Carroll 2014 role, Noesi is probably the better pitcher now. Though I would've done something like claim Wandy Rodriguez for 5th starter. Then he is done by August, unless the sox have him on a strict per game innings limit.
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2015 MLB Catch-All Thread
QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 16, 2015 -> 03:42 PM) Chris Cotillo @ChrisCotillo 17m17 minutes ago #Nationals Craig Stammen has a torn flexor in his elbow and will require surgery. Doubtful for the rest of the season. I wonder if it's the tendon in the forearm or the insertion near the elbow. Odds are it's at the insertion near the elbow. That's a really odd injury. It will be really difficult to repair and rehab.
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Official NHL 2014-15 Thread
QUOTE (TheTruth05 @ Apr 16, 2015 -> 10:40 AM) Yes. But Q has a knack for playing "his" guys that he trusts, which definitely shouldn't be the case but it's been happening since he got here and has gotten more obvious to this day. Rozy does suck, and is slow, and pretty much is a shell of a former decent NHL player, but in small spurts he's still better than someone like Rundblad( one of the other options) Problem is Rozy plays too much, and gets exposed,like basically all season and specifically yesterday's first goal. Why wouldn't a coach play the guys he trusts the most. It should be the case. I hate to say it but he probably has a better idea of what makes a winning team more than us. As Herb Brooks said, "I don't want the best players just the right ones." (or something to that effect)
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4/14 Games
QUOTE (GreenSox @ Apr 14, 2015 -> 11:24 PM) AAAA pitchers usually don't have the stuff he has. They do when combined with his control and command.
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4/14 - White sox vs Indians
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 14, 2015 -> 01:48 PM) If Bonifacio can only or should only play against LHP, approximately 80% of pitchers are RH, so he should start, if used properly by the experts here, 32 or 33 games a season. If being used properly means you can only bat against 1 or 2 or 3 pitchers on a staff, what a waste of $4 million. don't forget the fact that RV should not allow a rookie to get comfortable by playing him consistently. The focus shouldn't be about how to get the backups the best matchups. It should be about how to get the rookie comfortable in the MLB.
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To start Noesi or skip Noesi
QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Apr 14, 2015 -> 08:06 AM) So Quintana starts today against Cleveland and Danks starts tomorrow, then there's an off day before Detroit. That means for Game 1 in Detroit, the Sox could preserve their rotation order and go with Noesi, or they could opt for Samardzija on full rest. The upside of giving Noesi the nod is getting everyone an extra day of rest and going into the KC series with Samardzija-Sale-Quintana-Danks. The downside is Noesi starts the first game against Detroit. The upside of skipping Noesi is you get Samardzija-Sale-Quintana in Detroit. The potential downside is that would put both Danks and Noesi in line to start against KC, but that's where things could get interesting. If the White Sox wanted to get really bold and aggressive, they could throw out Shark in game 1 in Detroit, then instead of Noesi starting the fourth game against KC, they could call up Rodon and throw Sale-Quintana-Danks-Rodon at them. I know it's an unlikely scenario, but it would be a really interesting way to work the matchups against the two best opponents in the division and break Rodon into the majors early on if the FO feels he's ready. I think the White Sox will probably start Noesi in Detroit. What would you do? You don't skip anyone early in the season to make sure they can last and be more effective at the end of the season, especially if you think the Sox have a shot at the playoffs.
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John Danks
QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Apr 13, 2015 -> 02:13 PM) This is a big thing for me. Danks and Noesi both have the ability to be kinda OK or any range of bad. That's frightening. Rodon should be up now, and he should do some MiLB time during all-star break to preserve the extra year of arbitration. Reason being..... I don't like our offense enough to have just three good starters for these first few months. I'm fine with our offense if we are one of those undoubtedly pitching-first teams. And being win-now, I'd like the best four starters in place ASAP. He will be done by the end of August then. He cannot pitch more than 130-160 innings this year without concerns of injury.
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John Danks
QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 13, 2015 -> 01:59 PM) Noesi was able to limit the damage, but I think the shadows helped him out. It was his first start of the year, the team was 0-3 coming in, and it was the home opener, which is pretty much for a guy who has been waived twice to take on. Hopefully, nerves had something to do with his control issues, and he puts that behind him, because he won't be able to get away with giving up 2 runs with the walks, balks, wild pitches and HBP very often. They have Rodon in the wings. He is going to come up. They have seemingly set him up to make as few starts in AAA as possible while staying in their rotation. Another successful start or 2, it's hard to imagine one of Danks or Noesi, assuming no injury, will be in the rotation more than a couple of more starts. I have a feeling you are going to see couple weeks of 5 inning starts to limit his minor league innings. If all goes well he'll come up around the beginning to mid-May and stay with the limitation for a bit to try to push his longer, better starts toward the end of the season before he wears out.
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4/12 - Twins vs White Sox
QUOTE (Vance Law @ Apr 12, 2015 -> 04:04 PM) The manager brought in the closer in a non-save situation. He doesn't know the rules! If we win it's an accident! Only because he was already warming up. If he has warmed up, it shouldn't be wasted.
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GAME THREAD 4/10, MIN @ SOX
QUOTE (Vance Law @ Apr 10, 2015 -> 05:43 PM) You've got to like Ventura calling for the double right there It's all his fault. It was a mistake. He actually called for a triple.
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Baseball Injury Information Thread
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 10, 2015 -> 02:47 PM) http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/12648769...my-john-surgery Another one ptac will enjoy on TJ. Might want to think twice about Aiken and Matuella. One part I think they missed is a qualitative portion to ask why the average fastball velocity decreased. Were they told to not throw as hard as often. I think thats one reason the sox are so low in TJ surgery. Cooper really stresses decreasing velocity to improve movement and command.
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White Sox @ Royals 7:10 CT
QUOTE (BrianAnderson @ Apr 8, 2015 -> 02:17 PM) Flavum also responded on another topic 5 minutes later changing his "realistic" guesses. All of a sudden there were less starts for Rodon, and a few more for others in the minors. So not sure how he can so vehemently defend his post, and then change it 5 minutes later. Nobody has a crystal ball. But historic numbers, generally win out. We had 45 starts last year by guys that weren't people you'd necessarily expect. It'll happen this year too. Historically, the Sox have fewer of these unexpected starts than most teams. So I would expect that number to go down. Last year was really high for them in this category. Although your premise of there will be starts from other pitchers is valid.
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2015-2016 NFL Thread
QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Apr 8, 2015 -> 08:16 AM) Leonard Williams doesn't get you closer to a Super Bowl if you don't have a QB. I don't know if Mariota will be any good, but if you have the chance to go for a QB with potential to be good, I say go for it, that's how important QBs are nowadays. Give Mariota 2-3 years, if he's not good, move on to the next. With the changes in the rooke wage scale, it's not like you will have to sign him to a massive Braford-esque contract. The Rams traded down, acquired so many great draft picks, and how many playoff appearances has that earned them? You need to find a QB. Sure it does. If the Bears draft a QB next year, the D line is already on it's way to being really good with him. The Bernstein model of closer to the Super Bowl doesn't necessarily apply to next year.
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Cain accuses Shark of intentional plunking
QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Apr 7, 2015 -> 11:16 AM) I think it's really REALLY stupid to get mad at a team or batter for "showboating". It's a freaking game. You're supposed to be amped up when you do something good. Football players jump around like kids when they make a play. Basketball players pump their fists and get excited after a play. PITCHERS pump their fists when they get a big strike out. A batter hits a home run and even looks at it too long, and stupid people get an attitude. To hell with baseball and it's outdated and arcane unwritten rules. They should lighten up. It's a freaking game. The difference is that it wasn't a big or important play. It was a home run in the middle of a boring game they were already winning. A game winning hit in the 9th or a big strikeout in a close game is different. Play the game get excited where it's warranted. None of it matters to me as I'm not playing the game. However I can see why it effects the players the way it does. Does it make it right...no, but they're human and people get ticked off.
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Final Four
QUOTE (RockRaines @ Apr 6, 2015 -> 09:50 PM) So many fouls on wisconsin. It's really awful how the refs allows Coach K to intimidate them.
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Cain accuses Shark of intentional plunking
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 6, 2015 -> 09:24 PM) http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox/lorenz...&ocid=yahoo And in other news, water is wet. It happens, get over it move on and get him the next time.
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2015 Opening Day Thread
Willie Mays Hayes reincarnated.
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Justin Verlander to start on DL
QUOTE (iamshack @ Apr 5, 2015 -> 11:38 AM) Actually, in the last few seasons, he has started pacing himself more. He'll throw low 90's until he's either in a high-leverage situation early, or he's deeper in the game. This has only been the last couple. How many years was it before though? I know it's still not a common thought but I still think this overthrowing is the primary cause of elbow issues.
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What Being a Fan of Baseball is all about...this payoff
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 4, 2015 -> 06:52 PM) http://www.kansascity.com/sports/mlb/kansa...le17387537.html Just like in 2005 for White Sox fans...make the years of anger and frustration and almost wanting to give up and throw in the towel and say "sports shouldn't matter so much" worth it all, for that rare payoff when everything comes together and the breaks all go your way. Of course, for teams like the Dodgers, Yankees, Red Sox and Cardinals...it's an annual expectation. If it's the White Sox, Cubs, Royals, Indians, etc., there's almost no way to describe it because you never in a million years expect it. The only thing I think could top it would be the impossibility of the University of Iowa winning a National Championship in my lifetime in either basketball or football. I would agree with LDF and disagree with your premise a little. Being a fan of baseball, I love going to a game and enjoying the experience. Seeing a well played game out in the sun, is the reward itself. I love the game of baseball. The other side is being a White Sox fan. That is the point you are making and all of the points are valid. but to me it's secondary to the love of baseball. I can and do enjoy a game even if the Sox lose.
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Baseball Injury Information Thread
QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 3, 2015 -> 07:58 PM) So Nolan Ryan was basically just the sole exception to the rule, a complete freak of nature? They didn't have stadium radar gun readings back then, but I'm sure he was well aware of the scouts' guns. Or Randy Johnson, to a lesser extent? That's possible. Some people are genetic freaks. But it's also relative to how hard you throw. If a guy can throw 100 he can sit at 96 for a long time. If a guy tops out at 96 and tries to stay there, there is more of a chance for injury. It would be interesting to see how often Ryan stayed at his max velocity. He had a really good curveball as well. He is also an exception who could throw with the Tom house mechanics that killed Mark Prior's career. Most pitcher's can't handle them. Same applies to Johnson. I would like to know how often he stayed at his ceiling. It's all playing the averages anyway. Some pitcher's can handle it but I think they are the exceptions