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QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 22, 2005 -> 11:38 AM) You can if you're also going to trade for Juan Pierre. Or if you like Owens better as a prospect than Young because of the lower strikouts and higher average as a top of the order CF.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Nov 22, 2005 -> 11:32 AM) Bruce on w/ Silvy and Carm now. Thinks a major league pitcher won't have to be involved...but, (get this) says we have some great minor league outfielders like Chris Young and Jerry Owens. Yup, that's it Bruce. Aaron Rowand AND Chris Young for Jim Thome. Survey Says: BUZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ Stick to reporting there Brucey. Let's leave the conjecture out of it. This is the point. He is probably correct that the talks are serious and the names were Rowand and BMAC or Contreras. This was proposed by Phillie. I'm sure KW turned it down but I wouldn't doubt that it happened. His statement of "it won't include a major league pitcher" probably came from the fact he knows KW turned the initial proposal down. The rest is his speculation.

QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Nov 21, 2005 -> 06:42 AM) Wood will always be known for being the 20 K guy... The trib sold him to be the next Roger Clemens and he just didn't have it upstairs to get it done... Poor mechanics and abuse by a high school coach didn't help either.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Nov 18, 2005 -> 12:16 AM) Yeah, Dempster is apparently a really nice guy, and with the revival he had at closer last year after all those injuries of the past, somebody you'd want to root for. Except, he's on the Cubs, what a waste.... He is a great guy. He was with the Marlins when I worked in thier minor league system. He is hilarious with jokes and his antics.

QUOTE(SouthSide2004 @ Nov 18, 2005 -> 01:50 AM) Here are the facts regarding Levine. He is a pretty good reporter, but he is a huge asshole who hates the White Sox. I don't think people only rip him because of his reports. He's just not a good person. I've met him and he is a pretty good guy. He is a cub fan and doesn't care for the sox as a fan. This does not make him a bad guy. However, on the radio he does get defensive when hosts question him about info and opinions. I remember on one show before the season started he predicted that Garland would lead all chicago starters cubs and sox in wins. The hosts laughed at him and made fun of him. We now know he was right. I think he takes offense to people who aren't digging for the info disregarding what he finds. Again, it does not make him a bad guy.

QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 17, 2005 -> 08:08 PM) I think some people just take everything that someone like Levine says as GOSPEL! Every time there's another rumor by a reporter, there's a 15 page thread about where the person will play (or "where would he play?"). I guess it makes for fun conversation as long as you don't take it too seriously. Ding, Ding, Ding!!!! Exactly. And it is fun to try to guess next year's lineup or staff. It is what gets us through the off season.

QUOTE(JimH @ Nov 17, 2005 -> 07:49 PM) Very true, and he hit into that 1-2-3 double play in Detroit in the last series up there. But as I recall, people were on Ozzie's ass big time for that maneuver, saying there was no way he should've had Blum hit in that situation. My point is, I take issue with the all-or-nothing labeling that goes on at this site. I actually get quite a kick out of the flip-flopping that takes place. It is not easy for me to come on here and defend a Bruce Levine or some of these players (and manager and GM) who get torched here, just because I firmly believe there is a lot more to all these situations than meets the eye ... and they are things that we as fans are simply not privy to. None of us. I agree. It makes for a good laugh at work when you need one. Levineline doesn't lie. He reports as much as he can find out. I'm sure the agents and GM's don't inform him of everything and he attempts to put it together

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 05:24 PM) That sounds like a Bruuuuceee Levine special. The BUFFs are out!!!!!!

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 07:39 PM) I think Thome is right around 100% right now. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. The rehab for the surgery is about 8-9 months. I can't recall when he had surgery but that is a good estimate. This time frame is for throwing, he should be able to hit sooner, depnding on the physician protocol.

QUOTE(Steff @ Nov 16, 2005 -> 03:57 PM) Good grief.. soon the entire Indians squad will have passed through our doors. Also.. I'm gonna get some details on his work ethic, clubhouse persona, etc. just in case this holds some water. From all of my experiences with him, his is a good guy to be around. He tends to be quiet but very much a good clubhouse guy.

I usually go but they switched my teaching assignments this year so it may be tough. What a year to miss!!!!!!!

QUOTE(YASNY @ Nov 10, 2005 -> 05:54 AM) I don't know Steff. I'm not trying to argue with you, that's for sure. You may be 100% correct on this. I just don't know. However, nothing you have said changes the point of view I came in with. Which was, I haven't seen anything outside of Soxtalk that points to it. I'm not being stubborn here, either. If you said, "Paul told me himself it's degenerative." I'd believe you. But Paul's quote doesn't lead me to the same conclusion it's leading you. Now you are asking me to take a leap of faith that he, in fact, does have a degenerative hip based on the fact that he has a neighbor in AZ who may or may not be Albert Belle, and who may or may not be advising him on his contract and that his hip may or may not be the reason he's doing so. He does have a degenerative hip problem. At his current age the degeneration is not rapid. There is no guarantee that it will become bad enough to effect his playing career. However, there is no guarantee that it won't. It is similar to what Belle had but not as advanced at similar ages. I have not seen the medical reports recently but know people who have. I do not think the problem will effect this contract but you never know.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Nov 10, 2005 -> 09:33 AM) Hey, anyone who can go yard off Escobar in a tough spot like that and then got it started off Oswalt in the Series I am going to defend. There is no way we can trade this guy unless Boras is completely outrageous in his demands. It's a good thing that has never happened. I feel safe that we can keep Crede now.

QUOTE(TLAK @ Nov 10, 2005 -> 07:29 AM) Crede (Scot Boras client) traded before his FA year. Uribe to 3B. New #2 plays SS? I agree with this also. Crede has a very short time with the Sox due to his agent. His inconsitency with hitting and the back problems all lead me to believe that he wil be traded either this off season or next. If Ozzie is looking for a #2 hitter with speed, these are usually CF, 2B or SS. A move with Crede makes sense. I have always liked Crede and have been a big supporter but relistically with his agent he is not long for this team.

QUOTE(Rex Hudler @ Nov 5, 2005 -> 12:01 AM) I wouldn't read much into that at this point....... Could have been a family issue. A private health issue that isn't worrisome from a baseball standpoint. Hopefully not another positive test for steriods. I really like him as a player.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 01:16 PM) Alright, This would be my ideal plan. This is all based on Konerko going to LAA. Sign Giles. Overpay if you have to. Its not like were going to sign him to a 6 year deal. Sign him at 3/34 if thats what it takes. We just won the WS. Were still in a good position to be a force. Lets do it now and worry about the future later. Trade for Overbay. While Delgado would be the better choice, He makes a ton of money, and the Sox im sure dont want to go down that road, especially if they just gave 3/34 to Giles. Give the Brew Crew El Duque, Marte, and a mid level prospect and see what happens. It will probably take more than that, but I think you can land him and still keep this team totally intact. Sign Eyre/Mike Myers as your other LHRP. Easy deal. Giles and Dye platoon DH and RF, with Overbay at 1b. Podsednik-LH Iguchi-RH Giles-LH Dye-RH Overbay-LH Rowand-RH Pierzynski-LH Crede-RH Uribe-RH Pretty good balance in your lineup, the LH and RH combos break everything up. Mark Jon Count Freddy Mac Viz Hermanson(maybe?) Pollite Myers/Eyre Cotts Jenks That is not that far fetched, is it? The problem I have with this is that Giles has (ahem) shunk over the past two years and I don't see thepower returning. The average and OBP will be there if that's what you are looking for. But if Paulie leaves we need a little power.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 09:09 PM) The point is, if you have Konerko back next season then you know you have that big HR/RBI guy in him at 1B next year. Then you can afford to take a chance with Frank at DH next year. RF will be a highlighted position if Konerko does not resign, Dye could very well move to 1B meaning you have to fill that RF spot which would be easier to fill than the 1B spot. If Konerko walks, KW then has to find a way to fill a major hole left behind by a 40HR/100RBI man and DH is a position that could possibly be filled by a newly acquired player who could put up more stable numbers than Frank Thomas, not to mention more stable health wise as well. How about Erubiel Durazo as a part time LH DH? He is coming off an injury filled season and would be cheap.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 08:20 PM) Especially for a guy that weighs 270 pounds plus. Plus he hits offthat front foot, which is the genesis of the forces which has caused his years of foot problems to begin with.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 02:07 PM) When Sheffield's name came up in trade rumors last season, he immediately responded by saying he took less money to play for the Yankees, and if they traded him, he'd respond by basically dogging it on the field for whoever he was traded to. Keep that juicing M.F. away from my team. Agreed. He would do nothing but destroy this team with his selfish, everything must be my way attitude. I would rather see anybody but him.

QUOTE(bighurt2719 @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 08:12 PM) anyone else and i'd agree with you. however, this is the big hurt we are talking about. half of his at bats this past season were home runs. and all chisox fans must love frank. we need him back til he retires. I agree. I'd love to have him back. I'm just saying with Konerko, Garland, AJ and Crede all due big raises and the questionable foot, Thomas may not fit in KW and Ozzie's overall plans.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 07:07 PM) they said on the radio that they will pay him the buyout friday however this got me thinking why wait till tomorrow. I think that they might be working out a contract that has a ton of incentives. I might be wrong however i think they will announce a new contract tomorrow after they officially buy him out. What do you guys think? Also sorry if this was already posted here. I would doubt that. I think they are going to wait until they receive more medical reports on the foot. That second separate fracture in the navicular is a cause for concern.

QUOTE(BlackBetsy @ Nov 3, 2005 -> 09:02 AM) OK Randar- what would you do in 2007 when Chris Young is ready, and assuming the Sox trade Rowand? Make Anderson a corner OF? Make Young a corner OF? By the way, regardless of the merits, I do not foresee any possibility that KW trades the starting centerfielder and one of the most popular players (internally and with fans) on a World Champion team. Don't see it. I think at this point KW is clearly heading to the point where B.A. is carried as a 4th OF to replace Timo. While I do see the point of keeping Rowand, you are going to have to make decisions on who to keep. Garland, Crede and AJ are due big raises through arbitration. Konerko will cost alot to keep. The outfield is one plce we may have a player ready to step in and offer a cheap replacement. KW has shown to guts to let popular players go (Ordonez, Valentin) in order to make the entire team better. Maybe the move is to let Konerko go but I would think about trding Rowand to keep the others.

This season Ozzie has consistently put players in a position to test them. Theonly thing I can think of is that Ozzie was testing Marte to see if he can get LH out in pressure situations to prepare him for the post-season. Either that or KW still has a trade up his sleeve and they're show casing him.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 31, 2005 -> 06:00 PM) Blum isn't a SS. He doesn't have the vertical quickness to play the position. He's best suited to play 3b. Why do you need vertical quickness to play SS? You don't need to jump quickly except for the back end of the DP.

QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Jul 31, 2005 -> 02:57 PM) No way. Griffey would clear waivers without a shadow of a doubt. ESPN said that one reason nobody wants Griffey is that he is owed almost 60 mil. Alot of it deferred through 2024. No one wants to pay him for the next 19 years.