YASNY

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 11:23 PM) And 10 million dollars of additional flexibility this year. But people are stupid *waves at them*, so they can't figure this out. It's pretty simple. Nice touch.

QUOTE(iamshack @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 11:11 PM) I have no problem with him wearing the hat. I also have no problem with Jerry's comment. That's the way I see it. I'm a lifetime Sox fan. How can I critcize someone who is a lifetime fan of their favorite team from their childhood? Yet, if I'm JR it's something I have to factor in the equation since I'm the one paying the bills. Understandable on both sides.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 11:04 PM) Explain why we would get a lot for a one year rental. Whatever team trades for Mark will get him for 30 starts, and then he is off to FA. Unless they believe they can sign him. But again they will have to pay top dollar. Keep in mind that right at this moment, Mark Buehrle is a one year rental for US.

The late great Branch Rickey once said something along the lines of ... It's better to trade a player a year too early than a year too late. I put this Garcia deal into that catagory without even taking into consideration his pending free agency.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 02:04 PM) I can't tell if you are being sarcastic, but, I agree with this - it doesn't mean a thing. Not with this issue. This isn't about funding levels or political decisions. This is piss-poor leadership from all levels of government. I was. But you have a good point.

QUOTE(Damen @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 01:21 PM) When he shows some respect for the damn constitution, he'll merit respect for the office he's disrespected. Yeah right!

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 01:21 PM) "The Democrats" do not run Louisiana or New Orleans. Blanco and Nagin, two people who bring nothing positive to their offices, do. The fact that they are Democrats is not relevant to their lack of leadership in this sort of thing. Doesn't mean a thing.

I guess it's official now.

QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 01:14 PM) I'm sure this is just the beginning. LOL

QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 01:06 PM) The reality is that pitching coaches don't scout. Front offices don't send pitching coaches out on scouting trips. Front offices don't give pitching coaches a bunch of tapes on a pitcher so they can evaluate them. That simply isn't how baseball organizations work. And there's a reason that isn't how baseball organizations do things. Frankly, pitching coaches are good at coaching and teaching and not so good at talent evaluation. That's what scouts do and what they are good at. Well, we agree on something.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 12:52 PM) Still, wouldn't the guy have had trade value for a prospect of some kind? I know the guy had injury issues and all, but still. I seem to recall him pitching a pretty dominant game against us. Should we give this guy a call?

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 10:54 AM) Louisiana and NO were already possibly the most corrupt, poorly run state and city in the country anyway. This just pushed them over the edge. Imagine that. Who is it that runs that state (and city) again?

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 12:45 PM) Wow. What a complete waste of money, and the release of Hernandez just blows my mind. He had zero value? Here's the rotoworld blip:

Some speculation from rotoworld.

And ... they've released Runelvys Hernandez. QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 12:33 PM) I heard 55 mil from a royals fan...

QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 12:32 PM) I responded to your post when you posted it. When I read your later post, I responded to that as well. I didn't feel like dissecting why it is that you just assume that everything KW does is good for the Sox. I thought it would be more belittling to point out that it makes little sense to see one trade that you like (the Wells trade) and then assume from that point on that all trades and signings are good ones. To each his own. No need to be so unfriendly. I'm done here.

QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 12:23 PM) You haven't been critical of a move the Sox have made for the last 5 years? That says a lot. Actually I didn't throw any accusation at you. Just hyperbole. It is silly to say that I blindly criticize the Sox when I give thoughtful, meaningful, and well supported criticism whenever I do criticize. One can certainly disagree with my criticisms, but they aren't without merit. Nor are they knee-jerk reactions. They are just my opinions, which are as valid as any on here. And, personally, I think they are much more valuable than the people who say, "I love KW, so it must be a good move." You're response was so f***ing predictable, which is why I came back with a couple of others I wasn't crazy about after my original response. However, you chose to focus on the first 'off the top of my head' remark and use that to belittle me because it had been 5 years. You chose to ignore the entire following paragraph that was an attempt to explain my thinking to you. You're no longer worthy of my time. This discussion is over. Have a f***ing nice day.

I'll add that I didn't like the Durham - Adkins deal. I also had qualms about the original Garcia deal with Seattle because I had been caught up in the Reed hype and like Olivo. However, that one worked out ok.

QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 11:58 AM) YASNY, when is the last time you were critical of a Sox move at the time it was made? Ever? Off the top of my head, the Todd Ritchie deal. My question when that trade was announced was "Where is Brian Giles?" However, I must say that I don't just jump in and react without thinking things through. My original reaction to the Garcia trade was negative. But, I didn't post it. I wanted to think it over. I've been a believer in KW since trhe David Wells trade, because it was so anti-Schuler. Wells didn't get back to the playoffs, but in my mind, it was a gutsy move that had the goal of getting us deep into the playoffs. That was so different than what we had seen with Schuler. Since that trade was made, I have given KW the benefit of the doubt because I know that his ulterior motive is to make the team as good as possible for as long as possible. Add to that the fact that he did, in fact, bring us home a WS championship, I will continue to give him the benefit of the doubt without flying off the handle at each and every that I don't understand at first.

QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 11:50 AM) I never said McCarthy shouldn't start. I never said Garcia shouldn't be traded. But KW could and should have gotten more for him in this market. And KW should have gotten something in that trade that helped the major league club improve. He could have at least filled a need on the major league club somewhere. Yes, there is much more left in the offseason. But right now this trade isn't good. It is only defensible if KW later does something to spin those prospects into something really good or if he spends that money on a good upgrade. We'll see. I don't have blind faith in KW. No s***? I'm flabbergasted!

If we had traded Garcia for Figgens straight up, then I would have been screaming. That's nuckin' futs!

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 11:19 AM) I guess your answer would be, one bad outing. Touche'!

QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 11:15 AM) Haegar is major league ready? He certainly didn't look like it in his one major league start. We have no idea if he's major league ready. I have no faith in him. Broadway? I don't think he is anywhere close to major league ready. He may be great one day, but 2007 is way too soon for him. Floyd? How much major league suckage does this guy have to show to illustrate that he is not major league ready? The depth that we used to have was BMac. What did you think of Garland after say, 2004? Was he major league ready? Had he proved he could be a winner in the majors?

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 11:03 AM) I'd say "perpetual", but hey, to each his own. That works for me.

QUOTE(SoxHawk1980 @ Dec 7, 2006 -> 10:56 AM) And others will reject any criticism of this organization. No matter how bad of a trade KW makes, some fans will work really hard to spin it into a positive. I know this one took a hell of a lot of work. There's a huge difference between 'any criticism' and constant criticism.