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I liked the 20-6 demolition in the first game, because it showed just how unbeatable the White Sox are when they're on.

I loved the way Rowand played CF for the Sox, but Anderson is on pace to have an historic year defensively. His defense has been so good thus far this season that it has compensated for his bat to the point that even by the stats, Anderson is a better choice than Mackowiak in CF right now, and this is when Mack has 200+ points of OPS on Brian. Unquestionably the answer has to be Brian Anderson IMO.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jun 21, 2006 -> 09:48 PM) Relax. I think the Sox get almost 3000 grand a pop for letting a kid do the lineups for two innings.... They get $3 mill a pop? DAMN, that's a lot of scratch!

QUOTE(SoxFanForever @ Jun 21, 2006 -> 09:27 PM) I When did Ozzie Guillen start talking like a Russian?

QUOTE(jenksd @ Jun 21, 2006 -> 12:22 AM) I picked a good f***ing game to go to. Start going to every game. Even road games.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jun 21, 2006 -> 12:49 AM) Last year I would have loved to have Jr., this year I want him no where near this team.

The only name I've heard thus far is Aubrey Huff.

QUOTE(BFirebird @ Jun 21, 2006 -> 12:42 AM) This may sound weird but I think if Smoltz goes anywhere it will be Detroit. He is from Detroit, the have some bullpen to give ATL....like Zumaya or Rodney and some other young players the Bravos could like. Watch for the Tigres to look to add another starter in my opinion. A Zumaya for Smoltz deal would be awesome... ...for the White Sox.

I think this is a pipe dream.

Sounds good. I hope he can throw in the 93-95 range as I've heard. What I've seen of him was in the 89-91 range.

For those dreaming of Crawford, I think those chances just went down significantly today: Gathright to Royals for Howell

The sad thing is that even with the huge discrepancy in VORP, Anderson is still the better choice in CF when defense is considered. On the season thus far: Anderson's VORP (-8.3) + FRAA* (+10) = +1.7 Mackowiak's VORP (+4.4) + FRAA* (-3) = +1.4 That means Anderson's defense is so much better than Mackowiak's that the defensive difference more than makes up for Anderson's sub mendoza line bat at a time when Mackowiak has an average that's 100+ points higher and an OPS that's 200+ points higher. That says a lot about Mackowiak's awful defense, but also says a lot about Anderson's defense, which is definitely Gold Glove caliber. *FRAA = Fielding Runs Above Average

How did "Yes" get 5 votes? 5 Philly or Detroit fans?

QUOTE(DABearSoX @ Jun 20, 2006 -> 02:33 PM) I got crawford for Scotty, and a minor league shortstop in MLB the show......I think when i did this scotty was hitting .160 in real life Excellent. Let's offer that then. If it happened in a video game, it's bound to be acceptable in real life.

QUOTE(brijames @ Jun 19, 2006 -> 11:34 PM) The Tigers are playing with a ton of confidence right now and everything is going their way. They are due to hit some rough spots soon and then we will see just how much solid character they have on the team. The Sox need to only keep close, no double digit game lead, and we will see who can handle the pressure in Aug and Sep. Remember the Sox had about as much pressure as you can get last year down the stretch, and how did that work out? Like this:

QUOTE(danman31 @ Jun 19, 2006 -> 11:11 PM) This thread is ridiculous, but I'll put good money that Tabata won't be in the majors for any team in 2008. At least not opening day. I'm with you on that one. He'll be 19 in 2008, and he's in low A ball now.

I think that's what's known as a joke.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jun 19, 2006 -> 05:34 PM) I'll settle for the Wild Card if we must, and then just destroy the Tigers in the postseason as we have so far this year. I like the way you think.

He's hitting over .400 as a utility player that plays with semi-regularity. Why would you want to mess with that?

I wouldn't even want to attempt to guess that. For that matter, I wouldn't even want to attempt to guess how the team will look on Opening Day 2007.

QUOTE(beck72 @ Jun 19, 2006 -> 02:35 PM) I started off asking what would it take to acquire Madson for this year. I made the offhand comment that Garland for Madson could be made in the offseason, with the thought that Jon would be worth more than Ryan alone. With Madson not a SP, and Jon a guy who could mow down the mediocre NL hitters, you are undervaluing Jon big time. Other teams would like a crack at Jon, esp. Philly. If you disagree, so be it. IMO, Jon is worth more than a set up man. So less than 15 starts into his big league career, you've already determined that Ryan Madson doesn't have what it takes to be a ML starter? That is amazing. I must commend you for your awesome eye for talent. Seriously though, the guy has a vast amount of potential, and has yet to show that he can't reach it. Garland, on the other hand, has shown pretty much throughout his career that he is an amazingly mediocre pitcher. So, you're the Phillies. You have a choice between a 26 year old who you know is going to be about average for you and eat 200 innings next year, or a 25 year old who may struggle for the next year or maybe even two, but could become a dominant starter. Which one are you taking? QUOTE(AddisonStSox @ Jun 19, 2006 -> 02:46 PM) In what universe? Trading Garland for Madson in the off-season would be a fantastic move. Absolutely first-class. If I were a betting man, however, I'd put my money on Garcia to be pitching elsewhere. And don't give me any of that, "he has ties with Ozzie" bulls***. Kenny Williams would trade his own grandmother. He knows better than that. He knows better than that schoolyard bulls***. Garcia took a discount to stay with the Sox. He wants his and someone is going to give it to him this time around and it ain't going to be the Sox. He gone. I agree on pretty much everything you said, although I'd rather see Garland go than Freddy if Garland continues to pitch the way he did in his first 10 or so starts.

QUOTE(BobDylan @ Jun 19, 2006 -> 02:09 PM) A pitcher can't get the beifit of the doubt after throwing well into October? How about a dead arm period? Not to mention KW is more partial to pitchers like Garland than he is Madson. As far as anyone is concerned, you know what you'll get from Garland and maybe its 18 wins...with Madson, all you get is a big maybe. A dead arm period that lasts from June to October? I've never heard of that before.

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Jun 19, 2006 -> 01:11 PM) I just read in an ESPN Insider article today (Jayson Stark FWIW) that Tampa supposedly is interested in getting 3 or 4 youngster for him, focusing on high-ceiling prospects and younger big leaguers, with the emphasis being on pitching. In other words, they're going to find a hard time getting a taker. Judging by that, I'd imagine that their asking price would be B-Mac and two of our pitching prospects, and I wouldn't call most of ours high ceiling. Quit putting BMac in the package. Any package the Sox would send would have Fields as the centerpiece IMO, and the DRays are interested in getting great future CI as well as SP.

He's as good as gone unless the Rangers make some great trades in their favor.

QUOTE(beautox @ Jun 19, 2006 -> 12:22 PM) If we where to get crawford it would take 1 MLB ready pitcher Haeger/McCarthy + 1 CI Rogo/Fields + one lower pitching prospect Lumsden/Harrel/Tracey I wouldn't mind a Fields + Lumpy + Haeger package. QUOTE(WCSox @ Jun 19, 2006 -> 12:55 PM) That has as much of a chance of happening as the Twins trading Liriano for Crawford. There's no way that the Angels trade away their future ace for Kenny Lofton Jr. Who said anything about Jered Weaver? I said they're offering Santana.