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1) Mike Trout 2) Jose Abreu ------ Next question.

Hawk is a funny bird he actually articulated a well known tenet of the saber way to managing / team building by saying "it's only a bad or good decision before the act". Yes, you are correct Hawk! You can have a bad process with a good result and you can have a good process with a bad result. That he's able to grasp things like this thinks it's just more being old than willfully ignorant. Still, you can't ignore the fact that he is very old, and increasingly has a hard time getting the basics of the play by play right. Throw in the occasional ludicrously dumb comment (like the skirt thing) that gets picked up nationally and makes the Sox a laughingstock and it's very much time to put the old man out to pasture. Like Flavum I grew up on Hawk (guessing I'm about a decade behind flavum as I was born in 84 started on hawk in the early 90s) but it's time for him to go.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 05:55 PM) Well. There is one obvious answer. Seems pretty obvious no team is willing to pay a couple million for .1 WAR or whatever. Makes perfect sense to me. If the Sox have to send along cash then f*** it.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 05:24 PM) They were non-centerpiece prospects, but they weren't anonymous PTBNLs Yea most of these guys will never pan out but the more hooks you got in the water the more chances you got to take home a few lunkers. Especially given how the Sox are able to scout pitching.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 02:08 PM) I think those two punched their tickets out of town regardless of what Bassitt does. Especially Rienzo Agree, can't remember the exact quote but Cooper said some pretty frank things about Rienzo and I don't think he's a guy that feel they can work with anymore. Carroll is a AAAA pitcher he should be the longman next year out of the pen IMO. But I would have zero problems with him getting non tendered as well and clearing up a 40 man spot to perhaps take a flier on a Rule 5 guy.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 01:23 PM) If Dunn moves, it's "cash considerations or PTBNL." So I caution, if you want Dunn to move, be prepared to accept that the best thing that will happen is someone else gets PT. The playing time should be given to Viciedo and Moises in hopes either show anything.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 12:49 AM) You've gotta be honest and give a slight edge to the flubs. However, when you consider the length of time each franchise has been undergoing a rebuild, the progress made by the white sox the have the edge in my book. The flubs easily have -- what -- two or three more years into their process of rebuilding. Bottom line, we've made more progress in a shorter amount of time. Period. Yea I agree plus the Sox didn't completely crater, there is value in that IMO. Baseball is better when both teams in Chicago are good and while it would pain me to see the Cubs make a lot of noise next year if the Sox are still mediocre it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to get people in Chicago excited about baseball again. I think the Sox are well positioned and as far as MLB talent it's not even close the Sox have more guys that have established themselves then the Cubs. The Cubs have a plethora of top 50 prospects however so things can change but as you said the Cubs are 2 or even 3 years further into their rebuild than the Sox and the Sox have many inherent disadvantages financially.

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 27, 2014 -> 10:21 PM) Good ball game. Feel good about Noesi as the 5th starter next year. Yea would have absolutely no problem with that, and it should probably be the plan to replace Danks and Carroll, not Hector. If you really get optimistic and slot Rodon in as a decent 3, well you only need a 4. That seems incredibly optimistic however they need to get a couple high upside lowish floor guys in via trade or FA and let the chips fall where they may. Part of the problem this year was just not having enough depth in the high minors to sustain the inevitable failed experiments. I don't count on Danks for s*** I hope he's traded. Thanks for some good years John and enjoy the money sorry about the injury you're a warrior but hey, it happens.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Aug 27, 2014 -> 10:17 PM) A W! Gotta put youre best reliever out there in that situation...not sure why you guys questioned it...good call RV. good win it's nice to see future pieces like Hector, Adam, Avi and Jose contributing. Don't care either way about the bullpen moves it doesn't move the needle. Dumb s*** like hit and run with Conor and Tyler does however and that's why I can't stand Robin and he needs to go.

None of the relievers can get a f***ing breaking ball over for a strike. edit: jesus, quickly 2-0. edit: lol 88 mph cock shot popped up.

I'd rather see Cleto.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 27, 2014 -> 10:13 PM) Putnam can shove it down my throat and make me eat my words. I am on the record here as saying his fastball just ain't good enough. I'm with ya! This is a dumb move.

ok going on record this is the wrong move.

great f***ing job between avi and eaton for guys that have played together a handful of times in their career.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 27, 2014 -> 10:07 PM) I think Robin is regarded as a very smart person. well there's ball player smart and real world smart. Low bar.

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 27, 2014 -> 10:00 PM) I do like that Guerra is still in there. Good move. agree. For once his "gut feeling" is actually a good one. Guerra has good stuff lately (and, CONTROL, imagine that!) might as well try him out here. edit: of course that was the kiss of death

QUOTE (1dog @ Aug 27, 2014 -> 10:00 PM) It's the bullpen's fault. He has no options.....oh..... Sometimes, as Ozzie nicely put it, "you give a guy enough rope to hang himself".

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 27, 2014 -> 09:54 PM) Hand to the forehead. Pure Robin moment. Will anyone defend that stupidity?

I don't see any reason Conor can't maintain a high BABIP, around 320-340, for his remaining prime. His bat speed will leave him sometime around 30 but until then I think he's going to hit for a high average. LOL Robin, are you pressing buttons on the PS4? Hit and run with Conor and FLowers with no out, lol.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 27, 2014 -> 09:38 PM) That was a vintage Frank Thomas swing. Shoulders in, ass out. It's funny you mention it. He's hitting like 340/430/550 since June. He's basically turned into Frank Thomas. I'm cool with that.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Aug 27, 2014 -> 08:20 PM) I think the experiment with the glasses may be over or he needs to clean the lenses Next up, hearing aid.

Tyler Flowers reminds me of myself at the batting cages when the speed is turned up to ultra. He's starting his swing so freaking early. Except every pitch doesn't come at the same speed.

Hawk is blown away by viral marketing. Goodness the world has passed him by.

Wow, nice Take Avi. Way to show Viciedo how the f*** it's done.

That was a nasty slider, goodness.