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The beat reporters don't even both to lookup the contract status of De Aza and Beckham and/or understand the non tender. It was doubtful either would have been brought back even if they weren't traded. Hahn is getitng rather creative with the ID of "saved money" imo.

this blackmar guy is a live arm, not sure about the other guy.

gold bless Jose Abreu and the staff that got him to the South SIde. This guy is unreal. How was ihe in Cuba so long he could have had a HOF career if he was here at 23.

On what planet has Hahn indicated Micah is the de facto starting 2B next year? He has a total of like 450 PA above A ball and he is 22/35 Sb wise in AA/AAA. He's often compared (ludicrously IMO) to Billy Hamilton. Forget for a second that Hamilton is a once a decade type player just compare the SB numbers in MiLB: Hamilton in combined AA/AAA was 126 of 157 for a 81% success rate at extreme volume. Micah: 22/35 or 63%. Not even break even, not much volume either. I don't pretend to know first hand but every report on Micah lists "poor defense at 2B" as a problem as well. His profile screams "more dev time, maybe a lot more". I'm not sure who the starting 2B will be on openeing day '15 but I will buy a Micah BR sponsorship to anyone that wants to bet on it.

QUOTE (Señor Ding-Dong @ Aug 29, 2014 -> 02:42 PM) More like except Neil Funk. Funk and King are BRUTAL. I think if you actually paired King with a decent play by play guy he'd be OK but NEIL FUNK IS WORSE THAN HAWK. Now that is saying something.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 29, 2014 -> 12:58 PM) I know who 1 of those guys is. Cameron was pretty down on another 2B named Robbie Cano and he turned out OK. Cameron famously said that Cano would be a "270/300/380 type with a butcher's glove at 2B".

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Aug 29, 2014 -> 12:43 PM) Why don't you want Semien at 2B? If one of them has to move, Micah profiles much better in the OF because of his superior speed and inferior glovework. I want Sanchez at 2B. I want Alexei to stick around until the deadline (or thereabouts) so they can get another 60 game look at Anderson in AA. If Anderson looks '16 ready then they have some options. I don't think Micah has a future as anything other than a utility guy. Not impressed with his ability to stay healthy or his bat really. Yea he's fast, it's a tool, but he has a lot to improve on to get that speed to play.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 29, 2014 -> 12:37 PM) I am not paying $7 million for a mediocre platoon LF. Cost of doing business these days. It's not like they can't just dump De Aza if Semien is raking or they bring in someone better. I don't think it should be plan A (plan A would be getting another stud young OF similar in upside to Avi) but as a backup plan it's not bad.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 29, 2014 -> 11:49 AM) Tommy Viola ‏@Tommy_the_V 18m .@KnightsBaseball Marcus Semien enters tonight's game having reached base in 22-straight games. He's hitting .384 over that stretch. The challenged him to respond and he has. I am really feeling OK about a Marcus Semien / De Aza platoon in LF next year with Marcus also able to platoon a bit with Conor at 3B and emergency fill in at 2B. Someone compared Semian to Zobrist and I kinda challenged that notion but if he can hit 270/340/400 and play 3 different positions well that's a poor man's zobrist and that's like a 2-3 WAR player. I really like what Semien has done since the demotion great mental toughness allowing his talent to come through.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 29, 2014 -> 12:28 PM) Anything to hear less of him is good. Just a terrible announcer. Vascillating between inane stories with no relation to the game, losing track of what is going on, denying the existence of anything he'd prefer not to learn, long silences that put people to sleep... I really hope the guy just retires. He talks over Stone so often it's embarrassing. Stone is actually a good broadcaster when Hawk was talking during Avi's last AB about how a 3-1 pitch on the black is "unlucky to the hitter" I kinda just wanted Stone to interject and say "well Hawk that's why they pay the Pitchers too". It's not unlucky it's just a pro pitcher making a good pitch, happens dozens of times a game.

1) Mike Trout 2) Jose Abreu ------ Next question.

Hawk is a funny bird he actually articulated a well known tenet of the saber way to managing / team building by saying "it's only a bad or good decision before the act". Yes, you are correct Hawk! You can have a bad process with a good result and you can have a good process with a bad result. That he's able to grasp things like this thinks it's just more being old than willfully ignorant. Still, you can't ignore the fact that he is very old, and increasingly has a hard time getting the basics of the play by play right. Throw in the occasional ludicrously dumb comment (like the skirt thing) that gets picked up nationally and makes the Sox a laughingstock and it's very much time to put the old man out to pasture. Like Flavum I grew up on Hawk (guessing I'm about a decade behind flavum as I was born in 84 started on hawk in the early 90s) but it's time for him to go.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 05:55 PM) Well. There is one obvious answer. Seems pretty obvious no team is willing to pay a couple million for .1 WAR or whatever. Makes perfect sense to me. If the Sox have to send along cash then f*** it.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 05:24 PM) They were non-centerpiece prospects, but they weren't anonymous PTBNLs Yea most of these guys will never pan out but the more hooks you got in the water the more chances you got to take home a few lunkers. Especially given how the Sox are able to scout pitching.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 02:08 PM) I think those two punched their tickets out of town regardless of what Bassitt does. Especially Rienzo Agree, can't remember the exact quote but Cooper said some pretty frank things about Rienzo and I don't think he's a guy that feel they can work with anymore. Carroll is a AAAA pitcher he should be the longman next year out of the pen IMO. But I would have zero problems with him getting non tendered as well and clearing up a 40 man spot to perhaps take a flier on a Rule 5 guy.

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 01:23 PM) If Dunn moves, it's "cash considerations or PTBNL." So I caution, if you want Dunn to move, be prepared to accept that the best thing that will happen is someone else gets PT. The playing time should be given to Viciedo and Moises in hopes either show anything.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Aug 28, 2014 -> 12:49 AM) You've gotta be honest and give a slight edge to the flubs. However, when you consider the length of time each franchise has been undergoing a rebuild, the progress made by the white sox the have the edge in my book. The flubs easily have -- what -- two or three more years into their process of rebuilding. Bottom line, we've made more progress in a shorter amount of time. Period. Yea I agree plus the Sox didn't completely crater, there is value in that IMO. Baseball is better when both teams in Chicago are good and while it would pain me to see the Cubs make a lot of noise next year if the Sox are still mediocre it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to get people in Chicago excited about baseball again. I think the Sox are well positioned and as far as MLB talent it's not even close the Sox have more guys that have established themselves then the Cubs. The Cubs have a plethora of top 50 prospects however so things can change but as you said the Cubs are 2 or even 3 years further into their rebuild than the Sox and the Sox have many inherent disadvantages financially.

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 27, 2014 -> 10:21 PM) Good ball game. Feel good about Noesi as the 5th starter next year. Yea would have absolutely no problem with that, and it should probably be the plan to replace Danks and Carroll, not Hector. If you really get optimistic and slot Rodon in as a decent 3, well you only need a 4. That seems incredibly optimistic however they need to get a couple high upside lowish floor guys in via trade or FA and let the chips fall where they may. Part of the problem this year was just not having enough depth in the high minors to sustain the inevitable failed experiments. I don't count on Danks for s*** I hope he's traded. Thanks for some good years John and enjoy the money sorry about the injury you're a warrior but hey, it happens.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Aug 27, 2014 -> 10:17 PM) A W! Gotta put youre best reliever out there in that situation...not sure why you guys questioned it...good call RV. good win it's nice to see future pieces like Hector, Adam, Avi and Jose contributing. Don't care either way about the bullpen moves it doesn't move the needle. Dumb s*** like hit and run with Conor and Tyler does however and that's why I can't stand Robin and he needs to go.

None of the relievers can get a f***ing breaking ball over for a strike. edit: jesus, quickly 2-0. edit: lol 88 mph cock shot popped up.

I'd rather see Cleto.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 27, 2014 -> 10:13 PM) Putnam can shove it down my throat and make me eat my words. I am on the record here as saying his fastball just ain't good enough. I'm with ya! This is a dumb move.

ok going on record this is the wrong move.

great f***ing job between avi and eaton for guys that have played together a handful of times in their career.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 27, 2014 -> 10:07 PM) I think Robin is regarded as a very smart person. well there's ball player smart and real world smart. Low bar.