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QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 29, 2014 -> 03:13 PM) Hahn could have said that it's conceivable that Sale could pitch out of the bullpen too, but it doesn't mean it's going to happen. There are a lot of things that are conceivable that are not ultimately realistic. Yea this is a throwaway quote. There are a couple scenarios where it would possibly make sense to have Rodon pitch some MLB innings first as a reliever. Say for instance they want him to work on a specific pitch for a few outings against MLB hitters before turning him loose as a starter. Or, the Sox somehow miraculously find 5 starters likely better than him as a rookie, he's "stuck" in AAA well into July, the team is 40-34 or something and needs all hands on deck that sort of thing. That said, neither of those scenarios is that likely, which is why it's "conceivable" but highly unlikely.

The last part to Sale's greatness might not be improving his pitching but just his mental POV. He gets a little too amped up out there sometimes. Maybe he should take the caffeine routine down a notch on game day.

ha you guys are upset about this game? just forget it it was a good game and Detroit won. The Sox are playing decent baseball, way better than to close last year.

I don't understand the point in giving AAA lifer Phegley ABs over Nieto. Kinda bothers me. Phegley sucks, he's never going to be anything in MLB.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 04:42 PM) That is a move of the goalposts to another standard. Danks is covering innings. And as SSS did point out in the article, if we had replaced Danks with Rienzo for a good chunk of those innings, that 4.8 era becomes something like 5.35. Finally no rebuilding team wants an expensive "s*** sandwich". They want prospects. Again, the only way Danks gets dealt in the real world is for a different flavor or s*** sandwich. Fair enough. I don't think Danks will ever be anything more than a 5th starter post surgery so I am of the mind to dump him for a bag of balls and find a better 5th starter next year.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 23, 2014 -> 05:23 PM) Danks is #20 in the AL and #49 in MLB in IP. Yea but "innings eater" that is below replacement are at replacement isn't eating much except a s*** sandwich! If he can't post an ERA + of around 90 then what good is his 25 starts to a contender? I'd rather ship him off with cash to a team that is looking to rebuild and can maybe try and rehab some of his trade value while they do.

I just question if John is really capable of being "an innings eater" at this point. He seems more likely to be a guy that rarely gets out of the 6th inning IMO. Even if he makes 25+ starts he's not giving the pen much of a rest because he's constantly knocked out of games early. I guess he could be a decent 5th starter or maybe even a 4th if he can harness his command and control but I'd still prefer trying to move him. Don't think the Sox have room for him in the rotation if they want to contend in '15.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Sep 22, 2014 -> 10:50 PM) Glad to hear Sanchez's defense looks better then what it did his first few games He had a couple of plays that you thought ok maybe it's a close play and he got em both by 3-4 feet at first. He is very quick to the ball.

The Hound had it working tonight. Key to his success obviously will be control and command -- didn't walk anyone until the "non intentional intentional" to V-Mart. Breaking stuff looked sharp. Tough night at the plate for most of the Sox but Sanchez and Flowers came through and it was enough. Good job by Petricka with the 4 out save. Avi had a tough night at the plate (and on the bases) but aquitted himself well in RF. Sanchez continues to play an elite 2B. He makes hard plays looks easy. He has the range Gordon can only dream about and his hands are just as good if not better from what I've seen. Rarely juggles or bobbles a ball. I like what I am seeing this September. Young guys are coming in and holding their own and most of the core pieces are playing well. Certainly a much improved team entering the offseason than last season.

The 440 shot on the hanging curve was nice but turning on the decently located 92 mph fastball was more impressive imo. We all know Avi has massive natural power but a quick bat will determine how well it plays. Nice to see him get around on that one. Avi's patience and approach isn't a problem imo, it's getting his bat around on more fastballs in the zone.

LOL stone just quiet when Hawk mentions rodon as possible closer. Not hard to figure why Hawk didn't last long at GM.

wow, that is a f***ing little league swing on 3-1. Not even close.

dude, Avi. Have a game young man!

QUOTE (daggins @ Sep 20, 2014 -> 10:34 PM) He's 23 He did lose nearly a season of playing time and still has I think he will be a good hitter People talk about Jose having "slider bat speed" but that better describes Avi at this point. Avi will need to improve on fastballs to have a really great career but he could be a pretty good regular just hitting 280/330/450 is he can pick it up in RF a bit. I think he's got a pretty high floor he just needs more experience. I'm taking anything he does until the end as a bonus. He's held his own since coming back that's all I hoped to see. Next year will be the year to look for some progress, especially defensively.

Ventura is growing along with the team? Huh.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 19, 2014 -> 02:20 PM) Aren't prospect rankings basically projections? The White Sox have reports on every player. Apparently they liked Davidson a lot. In the end, it is the result that matters. If Matt Davidson doesn't help the White Sox, trading for him was a mistake. It won't be Hahn's last mistake. If it is, he will go down as the greatest GM in history. The hope was the Sox got a middle of the order bat who could hold his own defensively and would be called up as soon as his super 2 chances were at zero. The reality is they have a poor fielding strike out machine (contact was always a red flag) who couldn't make enough contact against mediocre AAA pitching to hit .200. Yes he still will only be 24, but it looks like he has a long ways to go to get anywhere near what a lot of people thought he was when he was acquired. IT'S NOT THE RESULT THAT MATTERS. IT'S THE PROCESS. Good god. If I drive my car 90mph through a red light and I don't hit anyone and I get to work on time can anyone in their right mind possibly say "it's the result that matters"? When I get pulled over I'll tell the cop "well I didn't hit anyone officer".

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 19, 2014 -> 01:59 PM) If that is the case, Brock for Brogolio if you look at their previous numbers, wasn't a bad trade for the Cubs. And if that is the case, no one should ever complain about Jeff Keppinger being a bad signing even though Hahn himself said he f***ed up that one. If all trades and signings should be judged at the moment they are made, especially if they include prospects, to me that is silly. I don't care if Matt Davidson was ranked 1 or 1000 by BA or any of the others, and neither does Hahn. It is what the White Sox think of him that matters. And if he turns out to not be the prospect BA or BP or Keith Law make him out to be, that really is inapplicable, because the White Sox shouldn't and don't rely on their scouting reports to acquire players. A GM needs to be able to project. Hahn looks like he is capable of this, but this one blew up in his face. Sometimes no matter how good your scouting and process is a guy just doesn't pan out. It's just the nature of prospects. You always trade a mediocre closer entering ARB for a top 100 MLB prospect. You continue to argue from a crystal ball hindsight is 20/20 perspective but you can't do that. It's like saying you have a chance to PH Jose Abreu for Gordon Beckham in the bottom of the 9th with the tying run on second and Jose strikes out to end the inning. That doesn't mean it was a bad idea to insert Abreu, it just means the process was good but you had a bad outcome. Say you leave Beckham in and he gets a hit and ties the game. Jose remains on the bench. Would anyone in their right mind think that was anything other than dumb luck from a bad decision?

Wilkins looks like a guy that sits dead red fastball in AAA but can't recognize or hit a breaking ball or changeup to save his life. Maybe in AAA without advanced scouts and guys that don't have the best command he just sits on fastballs.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 17, 2014 -> 11:28 PM) As far as Green Sox saying Alexei should have been traded in July ... that would not have been such a good move. I mean some of us don't want the Sox to suck eggs again next season. Losing Lexi would truly affect the team performance more than one or two games no matter what WAR says. I mean you lose a damn fine shortstop, hitting and defense wise, and replace him with uh, nothing?, and it'll assure the Sox of the No. 1 draft pick next year. I'm kinda willing to ride Alexei into late July at this point next season and see what happens. He's proven that he's durable and keeps himself in tip top shape. His range will continue to decline but his arm should make him at least average with the glove for at least another couple years. In today's s*** run environment a shortstop that hits 280/315/405 is a 3 to 4 WAR player so there is no rush to move him. Even in his decline he should be above average until at least '16. If the Sox are way out of it next July yea, move him. But that's not a move that's going to help short term (through 16) at all unless the Sox are absoutely bowled over on an offer, and that's not likely to happen.

man wtf, two bloops and a blast

un f***ing real

great changeup

and that's why you're the Royals f*** faces.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 17, 2014 -> 08:38 PM) Aoki has gone full Punto Punto Rayburn Aoki f***'em all

This f***ing Aoki POS is pissing me off.