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QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ May 20, 2010 -> 01:55 PM) Here is more of a realistic formula. 1.) Magic - Maybe a spell, a curse, or some other wishing potion might wreck both the twins and the tigers. 2.) Act of God - Natural disaster, end of the world type s***. 3.) Ped use - Maybe their the nutritionist gets caught spiking horsey testy juice to all of their good players. All at the same time. 4.) Intimidation - Maybe the Chicago outfit can start to pressure the other teams to give it up, make an offer they can't refuse. 5.) Massive injuries to large parts of their teams and to most of their minor leagues at the same time. In reality. Just hit the f***ing ball like you have a pair, and catch it like you don't have two stone hands. That should do wonders for the winning percentage. Ooh, I hope they use Alka-Seltzer tablets like in the Little Giants!

QUOTE (SoxAce @ May 20, 2010 -> 01:40 PM) He is not suppose to be great at SS and 3B, two positions he never played in his career prior to last season (not counting the occasional LF, etc.. as well) Hard to get in a groove at 2B also when you only play once.. maybe twice a week (or 2 weeks), not to mention are consistently being moved around. Like you pointed out though, his UZR was still pretty good with all that happening. Imagine if he stayed there, playing everyday, at one position the whole season. Like Teahen at 3B?

QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ May 20, 2010 -> 12:26 PM) You know what Floyd...don't "clear the air" or your conscience...just shut up. You f***ed up...you said you weren't doping, you got caught, you were suspended, and NOW you say you did. Here's a great way to clear the air. Shut your yap. I wouldn't be surprised if Armstrong or any cyclist was doping...s***, if any athlete was doping. This is old. Don't be a jerk and just take your medicine, do your job and close your mouth. I disagree. The more he talks, the more likely another cheater goes down. I'm not going to applaud honor among thieves.

I'm having a weird issue with iTunes. I always have my music on shuffle, and the little indicator says shuffle is on, but now it's just stopping at the end of songs instead of moving on to another one. Also, when I skip a song, it just ends the current song I'm on and doesn't move to another one. Anyone have any idea what is wrong?

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 20, 2010 -> 10:24 AM) I wasn't referring to Beckham. I was talk about installing a new 3b, a rotating DH, and filling a bench with a bunch of guys whom we had to cross our fingers to produce results. Like Nix?

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 20, 2010 -> 09:04 AM) Floyd Landis has admitted doping for most of his career and accuses Lance Armstrong of doing the same. And I heard so many passionate defenses of Landis and how it was really someone screwing with him at the lab. QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Jul 28, 2006 -> 04:14 PM) I've said it before on here. One of my friend's has a brother who is a trainer that has worked with a lot of these cyclists. He says that absolutely all of them are on some kind of drug.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ May 20, 2010 -> 09:31 AM) Seeing as your moniker is "Milkman Delivers", I find your lack of understanding of the female body and what happens when a woman breast feeds to be rather comical. I never noticed how big they were in general. They're absolute hammers in the breast feeding picture, but they are big normally, too. I never thought of her having big ones at all.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 20, 2010 -> 08:12 AM) That might be one of the smallest sample sizes I have seen used to comment on the value of a six year contract.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 20, 2010 -> 08:47 AM) I can't believe some are advocating trading Alex Rios. lol. He's only the best all-around player this team has had in about 8 years. It depends on how long you think it would take to rebuild.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 20, 2010 -> 08:03 AM) Oh come on man, I'm being condescending? As for the early 90's teams, are you claiming that we traded veterans like Baines and Seaver, etc., for draft picks? Or are you arguing that we need to be worse now so we can get better draft picks like we had back then? I think it's the latter, so in fact your model is to suck for 6 years straight and rebuild via the high draft picks? I don't really consider that to be an option. The Sox struck gold with Thomas, who turned out to be one of the best right-handed hitters of all time. I'm not going to count on another Big Hurt coming along in the draft in the next few years (or at least not enough to justify sucking for several years for the incredibly minimal chance of one coming along AND being the team that happens to draft him). Ventura was a great player, but nothing that can't be found at #25 in the draft if we pay overslot money for players that fall. Fernandez and Alvarez were great pitchers for the White Sox, but if you remember our farm system later on in the 90's and early 2000's, for every Fernandez and Alvarez we had in the early 90's, there were countless other busts that never panned out into anything later on. I remember toward the end of Schuler's tenure and at the beginning of Williams', we had a top 3 farm system in baseball. That vaunted farm system yielded almost nothing, outside of maybe Mike Sirotka. It's just no sure thing to rely on prospects IMO, any more so than it is to acquire undervalued players in the market as we currently have been doing. I still like our core, despite the setbacks suffered thus far this season, and I think blowing the whole thing up would be taking some unnecessary steps back at this point. We may indeed have to sell off parts this season, such as PK, Jones, AJ, Jenks, Putz, etc., but that doesn't mean a rebuild is the next logical step. Rather, you re-evaluate, plug in some current prospects such as Flowers, Danks, Viciedo, as well as the prospects acquired via the trades of veterans, and then look to add through free agency again next offseason. But from what I understand, many of you guys are advocating moving Mark, Jake, Rios, Quentin, Alexei, Danks, and Gavin and reloading the entire organization with prospects and using our sustained period of failure to build through the drafts with higher picks. I simply can't advocate that at this point in time. What every team seeks to do is establish a strong core from which to build around for a sustained period of time. I like our core. I guess that is where we disagree. Actually, the last five (I believe that is the number) times the White Sox had a top 10 pick in the draft, they struck gold. They have a good track record of drafting in the top 10. QUOTE (iamshack @ May 20, 2010 -> 08:16 AM) Exactly. This is what I was trying to get to yesterday when I asked Milkman who our two biggest culprits in the offense have been. Quentin and Beckham. Two highly, highly rated prospects who have been going through their fair share of growing pains. For all of those who are advocating trading away the core for prospects, Q and Gordo are two prime examples of why rebuilding can be incredibly frustrating and frightening. I don't think you even responded to that post.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 19, 2010 -> 10:00 PM) #1 Reason: TCQ and Beckham are gonna start hitting like they are capable of and we will start winning games like todays. If that doesn't happen, then thank god for the Hawks & the World Cup to hold me over til Bears training camp, cause this team will be going nowhere. The Bears are just another disappointing Chicago team, along with the White Sox and Cubs. If the Bulls land LeBron, it will mean that Chicago will have two great teams in the sports that I don't care much for (Hockey and Basketball), while the Chicago teams in the sports I care about (Baseball and Football) will continue to be non-factors. It's like the early 90's again.

QUOTE (earthshiner @ May 19, 2010 -> 10:22 PM) ultra stud? when did I miss that? Yes, that is a slight exaggeration.

QUOTE (gatnom @ May 20, 2010 -> 03:07 AM) Wouldn't make sense to trade him while his value is so low. I didn't say we'd trade him right now. They could sign this guy and trade Floyd later in the season or after it.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ May 19, 2010 -> 09:53 PM) KW said that all of the White Sox coaching jobs are safe. Rogers speculates that KW will take the fall before anyone else.http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/ct-spt-0520-bits-white-sox-angels-los20100519,0,1873756.story If that is the case, I'm sorry to say that I'd be willing to fire Williams in order to get to the coaching staff.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 20, 2010 -> 08:16 AM) Jorge Posada to the DL for at least a month, going to have surgery to correct a hairline fracture in his foot. The Yankees can officially be added to the list of teams that could use a catcher. This bodes well for the White Sox.

QUOTE (FlaSoxxJim @ May 20, 2010 -> 08:03 AM) Heads up for anybody who will be in the UK this coming Solstice Day (June 21st). , with actual modern day druids coming out of the woodwork to be on site for the event. My wife and I went several years ago and totally by accident made the trip to Stonehenge on the Solstice. The guards who normally keep people away from the stones other days can make a special allowance to Solstice Day visitors and it's kind of a fun experience. Sort of like teh parking lot at a Grateful Dead show. Nice of the Undertaker to loan them out.

QUOTE (juddling @ May 20, 2010 -> 01:02 AM) Luckiest twins in the world???!!!! (pic NSFW) Actress Julie Bowen went on George Lopez's late-night show to brag on her twin one-year-old boys. She also bragged about the "double football" breastfeeding style she used to feed the tykes - and brought photos to illustrate! The "Modern Family" star said she had taken the same picture onto her appearance at "The View," but the ladies refused to air it. Lopez had no such problem on late night. A screen-grab from "Lopez Tongiht" with the snapshot in question follows after the jump, so you can decide for yourself. Wow, I never noticed that her jugs were that big. Also, it seems that Lopez Tonight is doing pretty damn well. I haven't watched it and have no support for that statement, but it just seems like it is getting talked about quite a bit. Is it doing well?

QUOTE (BaseballNick @ May 19, 2010 -> 05:08 PM) Revival by Rios Here's an encouraging article about Alex Rios and his fine start to the 2010 season. Matt Klaassen writes that Rios' production has reverted back to the mean, and that contract (once looking like an albatross) may not be so bad after all. With him playing an extremely good CF, I'd have to say the contract is looking good.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 19, 2010 -> 06:32 PM) Reasons to think MINN will come back to us...which also, of course, involve us playing better and the Tigers tanking a bit as well Since we're only up 2 games to the Indians and Royals, they better play badly as well. 1) Mauer has a bad heel (lingering problems) and only has 2 homers On the other hand, what if he continues to heal properly? 2) JJ Hardy is hurt, forcing them to play Punto and Harris more often Wouldn't they then play better when he returns? 3) Jon Rauch How badly do you think he's going to fall off? He certainly hasn't been bad for his career. 4) Mauer always is a little "touchy" with various injury issues (see 1, had to stretch it out to ten somehow) Like you said, stretch. 5) Liriano is coming back down to earth after starting 4-0 I'd say the chances are better that he gets hurt rather than he continues to decline. 6) Carl Pavano can't really be relied upon for a full season, can he? Wouldn't be the first time the Twins got a great season from a mediocre player. 7) Nick Punto in the line-up at any time (like our Vizquel/Kotsay) Doesn't this happen all of the time, every year? 8) Kubel isn't as good as he has been the last couple of seasons, same with Denard Span If we expect our guys to get closer to career numbers, shouldn't he? 9) They don't have Valentino Pascucci at 1B 10) Because I don't want to be bored the next four months like July-September 2006 and 2007 Sorry, sometimes it's fun to rain on another person's parade.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 19, 2010 -> 04:07 PM) A move like this for the Sox means either Danks or Buehrle is on limited time here. Or Floyd.

What the hell is a simulated game actually?

QUOTE (greg775 @ May 19, 2010 -> 01:55 PM) Jenks isn't in the category of being horrific yet, is he? I mean he's no Linebrink or Randy Williams? If Thornton is so much better, why don't they just reverse roles. I still wonder if Thornton was our full time closer he wouldn't blow some saves as well. Thornton is beloved on here, but once he blows a couple saves he'll be criticized as well I'd bet. I don't know if closer by committee works, but I do wish Thornton would close some games, especially those where he blows through the eighth inning and you can tell he's really on. On those nights, I don't know why you'd always go to Bobby in the ninth, considering Bobby has shown tendencies of shakiness the past couple seasons. Because you can't throw 200 innings as a reliever.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 19, 2010 -> 01:21 PM) We have 1 good bullpen arm? Ok, whatever. As for your teams that have sustained a lot of success because of their farm system, I really fail to see how one could argue that the method preferred by the Twins and Angels has created any more success than the model we have employed. Name for me all the Angels' farmhands that have contributed to their major league success. The Twins apparently cannot build dominant rotations, which is why they never win playoff series'. The Phillies are definitely a team that has achieved success, however, I would argue that we are in the "golden age" of Phillies baseball right now, which has come about due to a combination of luck, skill, a new stadium, etc, rather than anyone being able to point to them and say "that is an example of a team that has been built from within." Let me ask you this, Milkman, who have been the two biggest culprits in our offense underperforming thus far, in your eyes? Yes, we have one good bullpen arm and a lot of what-ifs. Those were the two options you gave when referring to what a team needs. Thornton is our one good bullpen arm. Linebrink, Williams, and Jenks all suck right now. They're only what-ifs if they pull a miraculous season out of their asses now. Peña is hit or miss, and Putz is the same (although he's the closest we come to another sure thing). With Peña's history and the recent injury of Putz, they are both what-ifs. Santos has pitched 14.1 innings in his entire career for the White Sox. He's the definition of what-if. As for the Angels, all of these guys (and I realize a couple are recent departures from their team) were drafted or signed by them: Howie Kendrick, Kendry Morales, Mike Napoli, Erick Aybar, Ervin Santana, Joe Saunders, Scot Shields, Jered Weaver, John Lackey, and Francisco Rodriguez. That was just from a quick look over their roster. As to your statement regarding the Twins, while it is true, it really isn't relevant. The Twins were (and this is changing) a very low spending team and depended almost solely on their farm. The White Sox should be able to both invest in their farm and their major league team. If the White Sox had a farm system similar to the Twins and a payroll roughly equivalent to recent years, they'd be able to spend their money more wisely on free agents (even overpaying if necessary). You're comparing a cash-strapped team with a team that has been in the top ten in payroll for a while. With Pierre heating up, Quentin and Beckham have definitely been the main culprits for our offensive woes so far. Well, the DH crap, too.

QUOTE (iamshack @ May 19, 2010 -> 12:53 PM) Guess what guys? EVERY team outside of the Yankees/Red Sox and MAYBE the Rays has these kinds of questions to answer. These kind of holes to fill. These kind of problems that lie ahead in the not-so-distant future. EVERY darn one of them! Look at the bullpens around the league. They all have 2-3 good arms and 3-4 what-ifs. We have 1 good arm and a bunch of what-ifs. Almost every offense has players that will be leaving via FA or guys that may or may not perform to what they have in the past, or to what their pedigree might suggest. The only thing a GM can do is put a roster together that has a reasonable potential at some point in the near future to possibly win a World Series. He can't play the games for them. He can't prevent them from being injured. He can't will them to produce at or above career norms. All he can do is go off what they have done in the past, or what his scouts firmly believe he will do in the near future. I believe Kenny has done that with as much or more skill than just about any other GM in his tenure. Nearly every season, with the exception of 07' I guess, Kenny has put together a team that had the reasonable potential to be a playoff-caliber team. I also believe KW has done a pretty good job, which is why I think the coaching staff should go long before him. Take a look around at your organizations with the best farm systems, and point out to me those that have experienced sustained success from the pieces coming out of their system. The Rays? Off of the top of my head, you can also add the Twins, Red Sox, Angels, and Phillies I'm certainly not saying a good farm system is a negative thing, absolutely not. But it's not necessarily such an answer that suggests any more competitive certainty than the method we currently have been employing.

QUOTE (WCSox @ May 19, 2010 -> 12:39 PM) The Sox have the starting rotation to win, but that's about it. Jenks is no longer dependable, and he'll be gone next year. Thornton will most likely leave as a FA in 2012. Putz isn't dependable and will be gone next year as well. Santos is the only long-term arm that I'm excited about. Going into next year, we'll have mediocre offensive talent at every position besides CF, 2B, SS, and RF. Even Pierre's "meh" bat will be gone in 2012. Signing PK to an extension would help at 1B/DH, but the number of holes needed to fill is daunting. And we currently don't have the disposable income or minor league talent to do it quickly. In other words, the days of "retooling on the fly" are coming to an end. Damn it, you beat me to it. And you were clearer and more concise. You rotten...