Milkman delivers

No, seriously, why was it unpinned? It is, by far, the biggest thread in this forum. If anything, unpin one of the useless threads.

QUOTE (WilliamTell @ Aug 11, 2008 -> 12:23 PM) Hopefully the 3rd person was supposed to be Morgan Freeman since he lived, and have no more surprising deaths, but probably not. Well, if recent horror movies have taught me anything, the force that Freeman escaped will keep coming after him until it gets him.

I'd like to think that I'd grab the fire extinguisher (I believe buses are required to have those) and bash the guy unconscious with it while he was focused on the victim. But, who knows what any of us would do?

No offense to the man, and RIP, but I don't think he counts as filling out the "trifecta."

QUOTE (MurcieOne @ Aug 11, 2008 -> 12:00 PM) Year Ag Tm Lg W L G GS CG SHO GF SV IP H R ER HR BB SO HBP WP BFP IBB BK ERA *lgERA *ERA+ WHIP +--------------+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+------+----+----+----+---+----+----+---+---+-----+---+---+-----+-----+----+-----+ 2002 22 DET AL 1 0 7 0 0 0 1 1 6.7 3 0 0 0 2 6 1 0 25 1 0 0.00 4.24 inf 0.750 2003 23 DET AL 2 4 45 0 0 0 15 5 44.7 47 32 30 5 45 41 2 8 222 3 1 6.04 4.30 71 2.060 2004 24 DET AL 1 0 16 0 0 0 5 0 14.7 17 15 12 4 11 8 0 2 73 1 0 7.36 4.45 60 1.909 2005 25 DET AL 4 0 58 0 0 0 19 1 59.0 63 26 24 7 34 38 7 4 270 4 1 3.66 4.27 117 1.644 2006 26 FLA NL 0 0 12 0 0 0 3 0 12.0 7 4 4 1 14 6 1 0 57 2 0 3.00 4.31 144 1.750 2008 28 TEX AL 1 3 17 0 0 0 9 0 21.7 18 5 5 0 13 15 0 1 93 1 0 2.08 4.25 205 1.431 +--------------+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+------+----+----+----+---+----+----+---+---+-----+---+---+-----+-----+----+-----+ 6 Yr WL% .563 9 7 155 0 0 0 52 7 158.7 155 82 75 17 119 114 11 15 740 12 2 4.25 4.30 101 1.727 The only memories I have of this guy are in a Tigers uni.... I think he had a pretty live arm FWIW The guy had an ERA+ of infinity in 2002. He sounds amazing.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 11, 2008 -> 11:41 AM) What we need, and what we can get are two different things. Kenny is trying to improve the team, even if it just incrementally. Like it or not, things like budgets and what another team is willing to deal us do come into account here. That's true, but it doesn't change the fact that we will need another starter before September arrives. It is an absolute necessity.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 11, 2008 -> 11:33 AM) I didn't list anyone I didn't see play. That really narrows it down.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 11, 2008 -> 11:35 AM) I wonder who we gave up. I'm sure it's a nobody. And I'm not against making a move like this, but I hope this isn't all that we have in store for us.

I have no idea who this guy is. I agree with DBAHO. It looks like we're just desperately reaching for anyone we can get a hold of. If these are the moves we're going to depend on, then we're screwed. We need a legitimate starter.

QUOTE (TCQ @ Aug 11, 2008 -> 10:08 AM) By no means am i complaining but with how good this guy was he should be much higher on this list. Its just too bad not many on this site actually saw him play. Also you forgot to mention he used to dip like a southern trucker. His last year on the White Sox was 1963. It's really not surprising that he would make very few people's lists. The few older players that I put on my list were guys that I'd heard lots of stories about and knew their stats off hand. If I remember my list, the only players on my list that I didn't see play were Ed Walsh, Luke Appling, and Joe Jackson. I believe everyone else on my list was from the 90's or later.

QUOTE (whitesoxbrian @ Aug 11, 2008 -> 12:14 AM) I don't know d*ck about swimming but when I watched Phelps go nuts and the announcer cream all over himself, I knew I saw something special. To get 5th and still break the world record is something else. What does that even mean? What happened?

QUOTE (Kalapse @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 08:22 PM) G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO AVG OBP SLG OPS Hamilton 115 462 77 140 26 3 28 111 47 90 .303 .367 .554 .921 Did heroin Quentin 113 420 82 120 21 1 32 90 50 68 .286 .383 .569 .952 You missed that all-important stat. As unfair as it is, Hamilton is considered a shoo-in all over the media. They're the ones that do the voting. Trust me, I believe Quentin deserves it. I just don't think there's any chance it happens.

I think Gavin has really had a turn around in personality this year. I could be wrong, but it seems that he was always stressed or scared out there, and now he seems to have settled in, relaxed, and become one of the guys. And even though his ERA is drifting back towards average, he's been great to watch this year.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 08:52 PM) Well then the voting process needs to be reviewed; quite bluntly, they'd be voting for Hamilton because he did heroin. Exactly, but I think it's almost set in stone that he will win it.

QUOTE (Texsox @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 08:24 PM) His Oscar nominations stretch all the way from 1959 with Cat on a Hot Tin Roof to 2003 Road to Perdition. The Color of Money / Hustler was a unique twist as well. For which I think he should've won the Oscar.

QUOTE (WilliamTell @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 05:42 PM) It's fun watching the Olympics. Yesterday that bike race had an awesome finish. Then there are other "sports" that you never get to see, only at the Olympics. I fixed it for you.

Even though I strongly disagree with his religious beliefs, he seemed to be a good man and he definitely seemed to have a great sense of humor. RIP, Isaac.

Paul Newman is just plain awesome. He's one of those guys that you can easily say is one of the greatest actors ever.

QUOTE (joesaiditstrue @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 04:18 PM) was talking to this braves fan who IMO talks about the Red Sox like he's a closet Sawx fan as well, he argued that Quentin still won't get MVP because of Hamilton's story, no matter how well Quentin plays the rest of the season I spent the weekend with a few Red Sox fans, a few of them are actually knowledgeable to the game. While they agreed that Quentin deserves it, there's no way he wins it. Hamilton is a lock in everyone's eyes, even if they know he doesn't deserve it. It's what I've been saying for about a month.

I like what Carrasco has given the team so far, but he's not going to cut it as a starter. You get the feeling when he pitches that it's only a matter of time before he comes back to Earth. And Broadway, well he sucks. This is hopefully a stopgap until we acquire an actual starter.

QUOTE (JorgeFabregas @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 12:13 PM) Broadway to the pen, Carrasco to the rotation per WSCR. Oh my God, this can't be happening.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 11:50 AM) At least 2-3 more weeks, if then...not looking especially optimistic. Is Hermanson finally ready, lol? We already tried Loiaza. Man, he's been out FOREVER.

I personally think it'd be the worst move to pick up Washburn. The guy is horrendous. Everything about him says that he'll be even worse playing in Chicago. And if we'd be on the hook for him in 2009, which I think someone said we would, that just makes the deal unbelievably bad. If we are going to pick up a pitcher that has been mentioned (Washburn, Maddux, and Byrd), then the best bet is Byrd, as he has shown that he can have success in the AL. There are still two huge problems with that, too. We'd have to convince the Indians to actually trade him to us, and I'm also pretty sure that he's heavily dependent on his defense, and ours sucks.

It's unfortunate that this injury didn't happen before the trade deadline. We've been waiting seemingly forever for this guy to return, only to have him end his own season in the second inning of his first game back. That really f***s the White Sox over. I know it's not his fault, but thanks a lot, Jose. You could not have had worse timing if you planned it.

It doesn't hurt to pick up Ramirez, as we gave up nothing at all for him. But, I expect very little out of him. The situation the White Sox find themselves in right now is looking bleaker and bleaker. We REALLY need to get another, legitimate starter. And we'll probably need to get another reliever, but Ramirez might end up filling that void. Plus, we need Linebrink to come back healthy ASAP. If all of these things happen, we still have a good shot at making the playoffs. When the hell is Linebrink supposed to be returning, anyway? I feel like he's been out for like 3 months.