Milkman delivers

QUOTE (SoxFanForever @ Aug 10, 2008 -> 01:03 AM) Boone needs to be put out to pasture. I had the misfortune of watching last night's game with a bunch of Red Sox fans. I had to point out how disgusted I was with Logan after he put on about 5 lefties when he is supposed to be a LOOGY. That's just disgraceful.

I would love to make a long post here, but I'm literally walking out the door in 5 minutes. I'll be gone for the weekend, but I'll definitely be bumping this thread when I return. I will also expound on the biography. Who are the other three that voted for him? I am actually surprised it was only four total.

f***, I just got in to see that catch. Was Vazquez as bad as his line? Words can't describe my hatred of Javier Vazquez.

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Aug 7, 2008 -> 03:38 PM) I got no good caption, but what is happening here in this pic? Is this photo shop or something? It was a promotional thing for the Walking With Dinosaurs exhibit that is going all over the country. It's something of an animatronic thing that walks around.

I should be seeing Pineapple Express tonight.

QUOTE (CanOfCorn @ Aug 7, 2008 -> 12:31 PM) Don Zimmer explains that when he was brought up, baseballs were iron and papyrus. I also found this the funniest. I'm just trying to imagine a ball made out of iron and papyrus.

I don't think I ever heard of this guy. If I did, it didn't stick in my memory.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 7, 2008 -> 07:10 AM) For f***'s sake, the Sox aren't the goddamn Marlins. You don't trade every player over 28 and trade them for any valuable piece of prospect you can. The Sox have money to spend and I would bet good money that you see both Dye and Thome in the opening day lineup come next season. Rebuilding is not an option at this point, and the word "rebuild" means nothing to Kenny Williams unless it comes in terms of a building or structure they want rebuilt. And I'd also bet a great amount of money Vazquez is back next year. KW has a super 'Peter North' hard-on for Vazquez and, if that didn't go away with 2006, it's not going away with a mediocre 2008 barring a catastrophic meltdown. No, cancel any and all plans for a rebuild and stop thinking about it now. Think about ways you can beat the top teams in the AL for a World Series appearance in 2009, cuz otherwise you suck. I'll disagree completely that a rebuild is necessary. I will also disagree with assumption that the Sox have limited resources (which is my assumption, seeing as how you are comparing the White Sox with the Sawkxzzzzzzzzz and the Yankzzzzzzz)...their payroll is in the top 7 or 8 and it's over $100 mill...the Sox don't rebuild; they spend wisely and occasionally have bad seasons. Perhaps the Sox will have to rebuild, but with Alexei for 3 years, Quentin, Danks, and Floyd for 3 years, and Swisher until 2012 (BUT HE HITS .230 HE SUCKS) (till whenever), the Sox have a fantastic core to build around and the word rebuild has never and will never enter my scope of reality, nor should it KW's. If those guys fizzle out, F*** IT, find someone else who fits the bill. It's not that big of deal. No, stop saying rebuild or rebuilding or whatever version of the word you want to use with a first place team that has several pieces to work with towards the future. Stop. Please. Stop now. Stop. Stop. Stop. Now. Yep. Pablo Ozuna against CC Sabathia, last season. Bad season, but it's happened in the past and Ozzie loves his matchups. Podsednik started the next game. Erstad still sucked through all of eternity, though thankfully he's from North Dakota and he sucks superass. He also knows Griffey is GRIFFEY and will do whatever because it's GRIFFEY. Rebuild I'm only saying, every team has to eventually consider rebuilding when the players just become too old. The few exceptions are the ones I mentioned, with the ridiculously unfair payrolls.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 6, 2008 -> 10:30 PM) I actually wasn't even thinking about you because you come on here regardless of win or loss. You swing from side to side pretty easily but you can be pretty level headed, even in extreme circumstances. There are just some on here that seem to suggest that the season was over even when the Sox were in first place because the Sox didn't pick up any pitching at the deadline when the White Sox have one of the best ERAs...like a top 5 ERA...in the entire AL, even after July. They've been banged up, out of rhythm, a victim of being on the road, and a victim of pitching in heat. You are already starting to see them pitch much, much better of late as they are readjusting themselves to their new roles (Carrasco is apparently a hell of a replacement for Masset) and a general rhythm and flow to the staff is being re-established. If Ozzie is smart, he will slowly work Linebrink back into the 8th inning role whenever he gets back and not in the first game back. Ozzie's smart enough and he knows better than that. It's just funny that some of those people haven't been here the past couple days. I'm always paranoid in these situations, so I would just like to say that I've been around the last few days.

QUOTE (knightni @ Aug 6, 2008 -> 08:06 PM) Only because I've always liked you. Rawr?

QUOTE (knightni @ Aug 6, 2008 -> 06:53 PM) It makes me sad every time momma Bobby D and daddy Milky D fight. I want to go cry in my closet. Ha, yes! I'm the man in the relationship.

Um, do we need more help? I'm getting a little impatient.

QUOTE (kyyle23 @ Aug 6, 2008 -> 06:21 PM) I will be around for a while. At least long enough to bicker with Bob Dylan I hate that guy.

Everyone gonna be in there again tonight?

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Aug 6, 2008 -> 01:56 PM) Milkman, The last time the Sox tried to rebuild Id consider the "White Flag" trade. How did the fans react to that? Point taken. But, at some point, a rebuild will have to be necessary. We don't have the resources of the Red Sox and Yankees. Those are the kinds of teams that don't have to rebuild because of the outrageous amount of money they can put out there. Eventually, we'll have to rebuild, and the fans will just have to deal with it. I'm sure most of us would watch a rebuilding team, but I understand that a whole lot of people wouldn't.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 6, 2008 -> 01:51 PM) Which of the "old guys" are you going to dump, and how are you going to do it? And how will you justify dumping Jermaine Dye? Well, fortunately I'm not the GM and I don't have to come up with the specifics. I'd actually take Jenks off the no-trade list. He seems like a guy who can be sold high on before he drops off too much. And dumping Dye would be justified if we were going to do a sort of rebuild, as he'd be useless to a rebuilding team and would bring a nice package back in a trade. I'd definitely trade Vazquez, and hope to get something of worth for Konerko and Contreras (although they wouldn't bring back very much at this time). Some of the relievers would have to bring back something, too.

QUOTE (BobDylan @ Aug 6, 2008 -> 04:05 PM) I personally thought it was garbage. I personally think you're garbage.

To ptatc and thedoctor, agree to disagree. I am more a believer that, with the age of our players and lack of depth in our farm system, we should look to rebuild if we don't find the promised land again this year. I felt this way last year, and so far it seems like I was definitely wrong. But, the team is definitely getting older and I don't see that solving itself. Sooner or later it will probably have to be done, and that might just be my own opinion. And again, let me clarify that I'm not talking about a total rebuild, but more of sacrificing a couple of years to dump the older players, replace them with younger guys that may need some time to adjust, and keep the young guys we already have (Buehrle, Jenks, Quentin, Ramirez, Swisher, etc.).

QUOTE (Jake @ Aug 6, 2008 -> 12:47 PM) Nick Masset was a part of the problem, getting rid of him at worst was addition by subtraction. It's also unfair to call Griffey a one-dimensional hitter, seeing as all of his hits have been singles since he has become a Sox. You'll see before long some of that intestinal fortitude that made him a hall of famer. He can't hit for average anymore, can't run too hard or he'll injure himself, and he can't defend. He'll give you the occasional homer. In that sense, he's pretty one-dimensional. I guess you can say two-dimensional, as he can still draw a walk. The guy is a shell of his former self. I refuse to overlook his flaws because he used to be great. And again, to Masset. I wasn't necessarily pointing out the loss of Masset, but the fact that we traded from a weakness (which we should have addressed) to add to the team's current strong point.

QUOTE (SleepyWhiteSox @ Aug 6, 2008 -> 12:36 PM) Wonderful response

QUOTE (YASNY @ Aug 6, 2008 -> 01:42 PM) But we traded pitching for a one-dimensional player. How stupid is that? (think green) Wow, after saying you weren't going to dignify me with a response, you take a shot at me in a completely different thread?

QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 6, 2008 -> 11:24 AM) Junior is batting .308 for the Sox right now, all singles, albeit only in a handful of games. No reason really to trash him right now. His defense? He literally allowed a triple yesterday because he couldn't bend over. His defense is going to be atrocious. And he offers only the occasional homer.

QUOTE (YASNY @ Aug 6, 2008 -> 11:59 AM) I will not even dignify this with response. I wasn't looking for one. I just felt I should defend the people in the game threads who are discussing the team, however negatively or positively.

QUOTE (YASNY @ Aug 6, 2008 -> 11:50 AM) We have a first place team that was picked to be a fourth place team, and yet we still have oppresive negativity in the game threads. It's unreal. I just cannot understand the way some so-called fans think. Oh, and let me add ... we are in first place and it's now August. I don't even post in the game threads, but I feel I should say this. At least the people in the game threads are posting about the team. It seems that all of your posts are just complaints about the current state of Soxtalk and the majority of posters on it.

I watched the end of this game in bed. I have to admit I was dozing off slightly before the last 2 minutes there.