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He was fastball slider for sure.

Jose Abreu

We haven't had a good down day in a while. Honestly if the Biden leading at the polls stuff keeps up, we have probably seen the highs for a while.

The stuff is there, that is the frustrating part. He has incredible stuff. He just has no ability to locate or repeat his pitches. Until he does that, he won't be much of a reliever either.

I think it will be a reverse bell curve. Teams ready to spend will target their guys early, then it will die until prices die, and we will see a February/March flurry of signings.

The cubs rebuild put very little capital into young pitching. They went veteran the whole time.

Yeah, that would be a fire-able offense for sure.

This deserves a firm meh.

Especially since we do know that the Sox led the Wheeler offers.

If you are looking for an article that states the Sox were willing to offer Kopech, Collins, Heuer and others you are probably never going to get it. That very rarely happens in the post tumor of a deal. But the information is out there if you can read between the lines. If you are looking for a 100% confirmation all of negotiations, the conversation is a waste of time.

Your not skeptical, but have posted twice that it is looking like he won't "take that next step". I think you are trying to have it both ways here.

The fact they were discussing guys at the highest levels means they were willing to deal bigger named prospects, otherwise they wouldn't even be worth mentioning when it came to Lynn and Clevinger specifically.

Its looking like you can add the Paredes kid from Detroit.

We don't know that he won't take the next step and it is WAY to early to come to that conclusion. Again, we have proof that pitchers can figure this out after an extended time of failure at the major league level. Like it or not, kids failing at the major league level is a part of the rebuild process.

The evidence is there just by the teams actions.

The last discussion was of Rodon getting a sim start of around 60 pitches. Reading between the lines, they were getting him ready to start again up here, so I would guess he would take the next start, and not Flores.

They aren't blocked Andrew Vaughn to resign James McCann.

Giolito was the worst pitcher in baseball in 2018. He is one of the best in 2020 because they didn't quit on him after 20 starts. It isn't difficult.

Ok, the idea that the Sox are going to stand pat forever is ridiculous, especially since we have already seen them try to move up their window this winter, and try to make deals at this deadline, even if they didn't happen.

Yes, this is worse than anything we have seen since at least the Great Depression. Which I am not sure why with a fraction of revenues that only a few owners would chose NOW to go nuts, when they didn't other less tough financial times. You have to also keep in mind that we have a CBA renegotiation coming up, and having a few owners go nuts, while the other 25 don't doesn't make for a good narrative of why they need all of these concessions in the negotiations. If there are cutbacks, it will be across the board.

Baseball really doesn't operate like that historically.

Its a fresh arm. Rey will be back eventually.

It is WAY too early to make that judgement, which was the point all along. I know people want instant gratification, but that isn't how baseball works. Heck, you would have thought we would have learned that with Giolito's exploits, but it is what it is.