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Uh huh, right.

Williams with some time, plus a minimal running game is a good QB.

I literally said the SP 500. It closed at 130.24 on the date that Jerry bought the White Sox. It closed at 6664.34 on Friday. That's a return of 5116.95%.

EmSeeing this link, That's not at all what I said. I am bowing out before Ithe inevitable again.

There are trillion dollar valuations out there. That is basically the valuation of 500 White Sox's. I posted about Return on Investment in the past and the Sox valuation increase since Jerry took over is remarkablely similar to the SP500. I promise you in that same period that collective SP dividends are much higher than the White Sox or Twins over that period of time just judging by their operations debts.

And couldn't find a buyer seems like the most important part there.

People buying shares of a money losing company happens literally millions of times every day.

Conner isn't good, but is stark how much better the broadcast is with him in the booth

Sure, but you have to start somewhere. And I would rather see this vs another over the hill utility guy or mediocre reliever.

Don't confuse operations with valuation.

If they took on so much operations debt they had to bring in the buyer early, that's enough of a red flag to me. I didn't really buy it before hand, but seeing this plus what happened with the Twins, it checks out. They have been bleeding cash for years now.

He's probably not wrong for all of the same reasons we have been talking about since they didn't trade Robert.

I think people really don't understand how much money this franchise lost since Covid.

No really, let's hear more about how the offers were too low...

Fair.

The Sox told him to look for a new deal and then told him to leave when he got it.

It's not. What experience did he have before he took this job that qualified him to be a major market PBP #1 guy?

Well there is it. A great reason for the Sox to NOT be at 35th and Shields.

Bullshit. The fucking Chicago Cubs exist and draw three million people a year from all over the fucking world, with basically zero parking lots. So do professional franchises all over the United States and the rest of the world. There might be some people too scared or afraid to learn about public transit, but it isn't like the Sox are disappearing into a void that literally no one can adjust to. It's not that fucking hard to go to somewhere that you can't easily drive a car to.

Yeah, exactly. We keep hearing from one person who thinks this will destroy something, but this is a very small fan base that shows up on a regular basis. If you are going to draw fans, you do need to think about doing something to attract others, because the sox do not have the base that shows up no matter what. Maybe if a Sox game was more of an event, you tap into some of the "entertainment" market, instead of waiting for the, "I will believe it when I see it" group that isn't there.

Another great example.

I am kind of surprised, because it sure felt like someone was getting phased out, but also I guess this franchise would rather go down in flames than admit they are wrong until it is way too late.

And some of the most memorable moments of both Hawk and Jason were exactly that. It wasn't a game call, it was a gimic or reaction or stunt that got attention. The singing Nationwide stuff, the Campfire Milkshake, Hawks pick to click, etc. All non-game play stuff.

Stone used to be that guy, but he hasn't been for a while now. Even Jason could bring it out of him at times. Jason was the best we had at engaging Steve, and it was still hit or miss. Honestly, I don't think Steve respects John at all. He treats him like crap.

Plenty of baseball announcers are boring. That in itself isn't a bad thing. Baseball is kind of a boring sport that requires a lot of time to fill. I have called football and basketball games going back to the early 90s, and get what it takes to fill dead time better than most, fully realizing that almost all of a baseball game is dead time. It isn't easy to figure out compelling stories to fill the time between downs on during a high school football game, let alone between every pitch of every MLB game for an entire baseball season. But I also realize that if you don't have the trust of your audience, you don't have an audience. There is a trust factor you establish with each listener to where they are giving up their time and looking to you to provide not only the details of a sporting event, but also a compelling reason to stay with you specifically for it, and not any of the other choices they might have. Hawk was who he was, but he was always honest. Jason was also who he was, but was a damned hard worker who also had a unique sense of humor. Neither one of them were willing to insult their audiences by telling them something that was obviously not true. Hell go back through the history of Sox announcers and there are some doozies, but all were fair. Could John figure this out? I am sure he could, but he also seems to realize that being real is probably what got the guy before him "fired" he might not be willing to try, and that's a shame.